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Just 48 hours after assessment and DWP have received written report?

PIPnewbiePIPnewbie Member Posts: 257 Pioneering
edited September 2018 in PIP, DLA and AA
This seems rather quick.  My girlfriend's assessment was Monday, but it's now around the same time as her assessment Monday, and the DWP has sent her a text saying they've received the written report.

Is this bad news?

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  • wilkowilko Member Posts: 2,182 Disability Gamechanger
    No no it means that you may get your result award letter a lot earlier than most people, ring up DWP and ask for a copy of your acessment report they usually arrive before the award notification letter, they take about 14 days to arrive once requested, and once you have it reading it will give you a good indication of what your award may should be, if not then you can look over your report and see where the accessor has mis reported.
  • PIPnewbiePIPnewbie Member Posts: 257 Pioneering
    Thanks Wilko.  Am I able to phone on her behalf, as she's very introverted and anxious?
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    If you're not her appointee then she will have to answer the security questions first and then tell the person you're going to be speaking on her behalf.
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  • PIPnewbiePIPnewbie Member Posts: 257 Pioneering
    If you're not her appointee then she will have to answer the security questions first and then tell the person you're going to be speaking on her behalf.
    Thanks, Poppy.

    What do you make of the turnaround time on having the report back with the DWP after just 48 hours?
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    It means nothing other than it's be returned, some are returned quickly and others aren't. It's not a good or bad thing.
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  • PIPnewbiePIPnewbie Member Posts: 257 Pioneering
    It means nothing other than it's be returned, some are returned quickly and others aren't. It's not a good or bad thing.

    Oh dear, now I am fearing the worst.
  • YadnadYadnad Member - under moderation Posts: 2,862 Disability Gamechanger
    edited September 2018
    wrong thread answered .
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    PIPnewbie said:

    Oh dear, now I am fearing the worst.
    I'm not sure why because the report being returned within 48 hours means absolutely nothing.
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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Yadnad said:
    Another example of the DWP sticking two fingers up at the MOJ and not submitting their documents within the time frame allowed.
    It's a shame that the claimant can't cite the DWP's disregard to rules when and if thee claimant decides to be lax in sending paperwork to the DWP.

    Miss the 30day limit they put on claimants for return of documents and you end up having to argue before a Tribunal. Not return the PIP2 form within the period the DWP stipulate and they shut down the DLA claim if it is transfer case.
    I have no idea what this has to do with the assessment report being returned to DWP after 48 hours of the face 2 face assessment.
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  • YadnadYadnad Member - under moderation Posts: 2,862 Disability Gamechanger
    Yadnad said:
    Another example of the DWP sticking two fingers up at the MOJ and not submitting their documents within the time frame allowed.
    It's a shame that the claimant can't cite the DWP's disregard to rules when and if thee claimant decides to be lax in sending paperwork to the DWP.

    Miss the 30day limit they put on claimants for return of documents and you end up having to argue before a Tribunal. Not return the PIP2 form within the period the DWP stipulate and they shut down the DLA claim if it is transfer case.
    I have no idea what this has to do with the assessment report being returned to DWP after 48 hours of the face 2 face assessment.
    Neither do I. I removed it as the reply was meant for another thread, sorry

  • niknooniknoo Member Posts: 31 Connected
    I’ve just got a copy of my report and it’s absolutely accurate, the only thing that he has put that has upset me is to be reviewed in 18 months based on my mental health (which I have suffered with for 12+yrs) I also have several physical disabilities which are lifelong chronic conditions, no cure :( 

    My question is, if I do MR for the length of the award will I still get what they’ve award me (looks like enhanced for both!) or does the award stop? If that makes sense. Advice needed xx
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    niknoo said:
    I’ve just got a copy of my report and it’s absolutely accurate, the only thing that he has put that has upset me is to be reviewed in 18 months based on my mental health (which I have suffered with for 12+yrs) I also have several physical disabilities which are lifelong chronic conditions, no cure :( 

    My question is, if I do MR for the length of the award will I still get what they’ve award me (looks like enhanced for both!) or does the award stop? If that makes sense. Advice needed xx
    They will look at the whole award again and not just the length of the award. You really do need to get further advice before asking for the MR for the length of the award.
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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    If the decision goes with the report then yes you'll still get your money while waiting for the MR decision.
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  • PIPnewbiePIPnewbie Member Posts: 257 Pioneering
    niknoo said:
    I’ve just got a copy of my report and it’s absolutely accurate, the only thing that he has put that has upset me is to be reviewed in 18 months based on my mental health (which I have suffered with for 12+yrs) I also have several physical disabilities which are lifelong chronic conditions, no cure :( 

    My question is, if I do MR for the length of the award will I still get what they’ve award me (looks like enhanced for both!) or does the award stop? If that makes sense. Advice needed xx
    So you have the report but not the decision?  Did you phone up for your report?  How long after your face to face did you receive your report?
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    You have to ring for a copy of the report yes and it can take anything up to 10 days providing they send it to you when they're asked.
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  • PIPnewbiePIPnewbie Member Posts: 257 Pioneering
    You have to ring for a copy of the report yes and it can take anything up to 10 days providing they send it to you when they're asked.
    Will this affect their decision if my girlfriend, in their mind, is "well enough" to ring up for the copy of the report so soon after the face to face?
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    No.
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  • niknooniknoo Member Posts: 31 Connected
    @poppy123456 the report itself is absolutely fantastic. Although it has reduced me to tears reading it, I am so happy he with it. I blew the point system out the water, it’s jusy his recommendation of the award length that’s upset me. It should be longer. Although I haven’t actually had my award letter yet, maybe they will award me longer? xxxx
  • niknooniknoo Member Posts: 31 Connected
    PIPnewbie said:
    niknoo said:
    I’ve just got a copy of my report and it’s absolutely accurate, the only thing that he has put that has upset me is to be reviewed in 18 months based on my mental health (which I have suffered with for 12+yrs) I also have several physical disabilities which are lifelong chronic conditions, no cure :( 

    My question is, if I do MR for the length of the award will I still get what they’ve award me (looks like enhanced for both!) or does the award stop? If that makes sense. Advice needed xx
    So you have the report but not the decision?  Did you phone up for your report?  How long after your face to face did you receive your report?
    Yes, I rang last Tuesday and got it today xx
  • niknooniknoo Member Posts: 31 Connected
    And no decision letter yet! xxx
  • PIPnewbiePIPnewbie Member Posts: 257 Pioneering
    edited September 2018
    niknoo said:
    PIPnewbie said:
    niknoo said:
    I’ve just got a copy of my report and it’s absolutely accurate, the only thing that he has put that has upset me is to be reviewed in 18 months based on my mental health (which I have suffered with for 12+yrs) I also have several physical disabilities which are lifelong chronic conditions, no cure :( 

    My question is, if I do MR for the length of the award will I still get what they’ve award me (looks like enhanced for both!) or does the award stop? If that makes sense. Advice needed xx
    So you have the report but not the decision?  Did you phone up for your report?  How long after your face to face did you receive your report?
    Yes, I rang last Tuesday and got it today xx

     Thanks for the reply.  Was your assessment last Monday and then you rang up on the Tuesday, or was your face to face earlier?
  • niknooniknoo Member Posts: 31 Connected
    It was the Thursday before. I got a text 3days later to say they had my report. So the day after they sent text I rang xxx
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    niknoo said:
    @poppy123456 the report itself is absolutely fantastic. Although it has reduced me to tears reading it, I am so happy he with it. I blew the point system out the water, it’s jusy his recommendation of the award length that’s upset me. It should be longer. Although I haven’t actually had my award letter yet, maybe they will award me longer? xxxx
    My daughters report was exactly the same, she claims for ASD, learning disability and social anxiety disorder. Scored 12 points for mobility and 20 points for daily living. Award length..... 2 years with review after 1 year. Totally ridiculous considering she'll need help for the rest of her life. The decision mirrored the report for her. Please do get some advice before asking for the MR for the length of time.
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  • PIPnewbiePIPnewbie Member Posts: 257 Pioneering
    niknoo said:
    It was the Thursday before. I got a text 3days later to say they had my report. So the day after they sent text I rang xxx

    I just realised, you must have rang early yesterday for you to have received your report in the post already :) 

    You've given us the confidence to ring up tomorrow for her report then.  What time did you call?  We will do the same, for luck :) 
  • niknooniknoo Member Posts: 31 Connected
    niknoo said:
    @poppy123456 the report itself is absolutely fantastic. Although it has reduced me to tears reading it, I am so happy he with it. I blew the point system out the water, it’s jusy his recommendation of the award length that’s upset me. It should be longer. Although I haven’t actually had my award letter yet, maybe they will award me longer? xxxx
    My daughters report was exactly the same, she claims for ASD, learning disability and social anxiety disorder. Scored 12 points for mobility and 20 points for daily living. Award length..... 2 years with review after 1 year. Totally ridiculous considering she'll need help for the rest of her life. The decision mirrored the report for her. Please do get some advice before asking for the MR for the length of time.
    I will wait and see what the award letter says xxx
  • YadnadYadnad Member - under moderation Posts: 2,862 Disability Gamechanger
    niknoo said:
    @poppy123456 the report itself is absolutely fantastic. Although it has reduced me to tears reading it, I am so happy he with it. I blew the point system out the water, it’s jusy his recommendation of the award length that’s upset me. It should be longer. Although I haven’t actually had my award letter yet, maybe they will award me longer? xxxx
    My daughters report was exactly the same, she claims for ASD, learning disability and social anxiety disorder. Scored 12 points for mobility and 20 points for daily living. Award length..... 2 years with review after 1 year. Totally ridiculous considering she'll need help for the rest of her life. The decision mirrored the report for her. Please do get some advice before asking for the MR for the length of time.
    Mike Hughes suggested doing it another way without the need for a MR. Asking the DWP what evidence have they used to base their decision on for the length of the award. He says it never fails as the DWP haven't used any evidence - they work on the basis that if no application on the PIP2 form is made for an ongoing award the DWP will always give the shortest award length that they think that they can get away with. 
  • niknooniknoo Member Posts: 31 Connected
    edited September 2018
    @Yadnad how do I do this please? xxx
  • niknooniknoo Member Posts: 31 Connected
    PIPnewbie said:
    niknoo said:
    It was the Thursday before. I got a text 3days later to say they had my report. So the day after they sent text I rang xxx

    I just realised, you must have rang early yesterday for you to have received your report in the post already :) 

    You've given us the confidence to ring up tomorrow for her report then.  What time did you call?  We will do the same, for luck :) 
    I rang them last Tuesday Hun, so I had my assessment on 13th sept, received a text to say the had my report on 17th, rang for report on 18th, just after midday, and received it today. So took one week and one day to get to me. 
    I hope this breaks it down for you a bit more. Xxx
  • sarah50sarah50 Member Posts: 119 Pioneering
    @pipnewbie hi sorry to be the bearer of bad news. my report was received by the decision maker quite quickly but decision took 3 months to come. Hope your claim goes better than mine. X
  • PIPnewbiePIPnewbie Member Posts: 257 Pioneering
    sarah50 said:
    @pipnewbie hi sorry to be the bearer of bad news. my report was received by the decision maker quite quickly but decision took 3 months to come. Hope your claim goes better than mine. X

    They've apparently sent the award letter out so it should be coming this week :neutral:

    Hope you got the award you wanted :smile:

  • sarah50sarah50 Member Posts: 119 Pioneering
    I did not they awarded me just 2 pts despite the fact that nothing has changed. I am now embarking on the fight of my life. Mandatory reconsideration in waiting to hear.
  • PIPnewbiePIPnewbie Member Posts: 257 Pioneering
    edited October 2018
    sarah50 said:
    I did not they awarded me just 2 pts despite the fact that nothing has changed. I am now embarking on the fight of my life. Mandatory reconsideration in waiting to hear.
    I'm sorry to hear that 

    How did the face to face go?  Was the assessor a bit of a horrible person?
  • sarah50sarah50 Member Posts: 119 Pioneering
    @pipnewbie I wouldn't say she was a horrible person. But she did not accurately record my answers she has quoted me as saying I can do things I said I could not her report has contradictions in it and she quite clearly states that my GP keeps offering me pain meds and sleep inducers which no doctor has ever offered, she also noted that I was clean well kempt and well nourished! I have downloaded the dwp guidelines for pip assessors and she very obviously has not applied those guidelines with regard to the reliability criteria also the dwp decision maker seems to have downgraded the descriptors further. My god I have only been dealing with this for a week and I have read pages and pages of their guidelines, I will be better trained than them by the Tim I get through this. . .if it doesn't kill me off lol
  • YadnadYadnad Member - under moderation Posts: 2,862 Disability Gamechanger
    sarah50 said:
    @pipnewbie I wouldn't say she was a horrible person. But she did not accurately record my answers she has quoted me as saying I can do things I said I could not her report has contradictions in it and she quite clearly states that my GP keeps offering me pain meds and sleep inducers which no doctor has ever offered, she also noted that I was clean well kempt and well nourished! I have downloaded the dwp guidelines for pip assessors and she very obviously has not applied those guidelines with regard to the reliability criteria also the dwp decision maker seems to have downgraded the descriptors further. My god I have only been dealing with this for a week and I have read pages and pages of their guidelines, I will be better trained than them by the Tim I get through this. . .if it doesn't kill me off lol
    The guidelines you mention are only guidelines - they are not law.

  • sarah50sarah50 Member Posts: 119 Pioneering
    edited October 2018
    I realise that they are only guidelines and not law but DWP obviously wrote them to help the hcp produce consistent accurate reports that include correctly judged information and why did they bother if HCPs were not meant to follow them.
  • Red1983dawnRed1983dawn Member Posts: 26 Listener
    I got a txt 3 days after my f2f and have recently received a letter telling me they have all the info they need am unsure if this is good or bad

    Please help
  • YadnadYadnad Member - under moderation Posts: 2,862 Disability Gamechanger
    sarah50 said:
    I realise that they are only guidelines and not law but DWP obviously wrote them to help the hcp produce consistent accurate reports that include correctly judged information and why did they bother if HCPs were not meant to follow them.
    Maybe it is because the assessors don't want to follow the guidance - they are more interested in maximum output to reach targets. Quality of reporting as outlined in the guidance is a stumbling block to that end - cut corners for maximum return.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    I got a txt 3 days after my f2f and have recently received a letter telling me they have all the info they need am unsure if this is good or bad

    Please help
    It means exactly what the letter says and nothing else. it's not good or bad. As advised on your other thread it's a standard letter they send to everyone, if you haven't given your mobile number. If you have then you'll receive a text message instead.
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  • Red1983dawnRed1983dawn Member Posts: 26 Listener
    I received both which is why I'm confused with and sorry to be a mither 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    I received both which is why I'm confused with and sorry to be a mither 
    It still doesn't mean anything.
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  • Pippa_ScopePippa_Scope Member Posts: 5,856 Disability Gamechanger
    Welcome to the community, @ilovecats!
  • YadnadYadnad Member - under moderation Posts: 2,862 Disability Gamechanger
    ilovecats said:

    Only accuracy based on the information they see in front of them.
    Assessors are required to follow the guidance set out by the DWP. Example of them failing to do this is evidenced in the many posts on this site.
    As for accuracy, you really have to be joking.

    When psychiatric reports are put before them, the PIP2 explains what the impact is of it they still manage to find, in my case, 14 reasons  why I do not have a mental health problem.

    I walked maybe 10 metres from the waiting room to the assessing room with a stick to support me. Evidence they had from the spinal unit described the tests I had and confirmed that based on those tests that I was limited to walk a maximum of 10/15 metres.
    Apparently because of that I was assessed as being able to walk 200 metres +
  • lexxus16lexxus16 Member Posts: 11 Connected
    edited March 2019
    PIPnewbie said:
    This seems rather quick.  My girlfriend's assessment was Monday, but it's now around the same time as her assessment Monday, and the DWP has sent her a text saying they've received the written report.

    Is this bad news?
    PIPnewbie, you're not wrong to think this way, I was the exact same in my thinking - my report was done on the Monday, the DWP received it by Tuesday. I rang IAS to request a copy of the report, they said it had been received but I had to contact DWP (which I knew but just wanted to find out from "them" what had been said). I said to the girl that I was surprised it was back so soon, and her exact response was this; "yeah, I can see there's no issues with your claim, I can tell you all is fine as it hasn't gone through the auditing stages (7 of them!), it's just been written and sent straight back to the DWP. Usually we audit the claims, and it takes a while, but when it's back this quickly there's usually approval that it doesn't need to be audited" -

    so I responded with, "yes, I know full well what the auditing stage is, it's the stage where you potentially ruin people's lives, where you change what the assessor has said and/or force them to change what they put, but to us outsiders you call it "quality control/making sure the assessor hasn't exaggerated anything to enhance the person's problems" - so whilst a quick claim/report back doesn't necessarily mean you've been awarded anything, it does confirm you're out the woods with regards to auditing, and probably had an honest assessor. 

    Mine was as honest as the day gets, but then I also recorded the assessment. Three before her were lying twats! And they all took two weeks before report was sent. Just to clarify, many people wait weeks and still receive an award, many don't, so to anyone waiting, don't think this means "no award", I was just placing emphasis on the auditing process, and the convo I had with an advisor, as mine was 24 hours.
  • lexxus16lexxus16 Member Posts: 11 Connected
    ILovecats, thank-you so much for backing that up and confirming what truly does go on. I am so sorry you were illegally put under that pressure, I say illegally as surely it's fraud them telling someone to put something that isn't true, say something that hasn't happened etc. I had all that, they put I have A stars, grades A-C in my GCSE's, 12 in total - I never did them lol, I was taken into local authority care and most of my childhood messed up and school life impacted, so these assessors/auditors are something else the things they come out with. Former assessor, "former" being the key word... I feel so sorry for all the genuine applicants out there that will inevitably have this. I am one of them when my PIP comes up for review, I'm not holding my breath, but have instructed a lawyer to do it all for me, that way no lies can be told.
  • RABSTER_78RABSTER_78 Member Posts: 31 Listener
    After reading that audit stuff I don't hold much hope on my award being raised as I only received a text message this morning from the DWP saying that they have now received my written report of which was nearly 3 weeks ago so on hearing what I have just read on here it sounds as if mine has been audited and that makes me worry that they have dabbled with mine as my assessment went well and the health professional seemed nice and honest and seemed to have a caring side and listened to what I and my companion that came to support me had to say ! I already receive standard care of pip since I was awarded it march 2019 but my physical and mental health conditions have worsened since then not only will I probably not get a higher award but I will probably lose what I am on and now am worried sick 
  • happymanhappyman Member Posts: 57 Connected
    PIPnewbie said:
    This seems rather quick.  My girlfriend's assessment was Monday, but it's now around the same time as her assessment Monday, and the DWP has sent her a text saying they've received the written report.

    Is this bad news?

    what was the result of your award. i got my text the day after saying the same
  • RABSTER_78RABSTER_78 Member Posts: 31 Listener
    I stayed on standard care and they awarded my enhanced mobility of which I am happy with ! now just waiting on my tribunal hearing for universal credit as they deemed me fit for work so I am hoping my award for pip specially getting the enhanced mobility will help my case
  • PIPnewbiePIPnewbie Member Posts: 257 Pioneering
    happyman said:
    PIPnewbie said:
    This seems rather quick.  My girlfriend's assessment was Monday, but it's now around the same time as her assessment Monday, and the DWP has sent her a text saying they've received the written report.

    Is this bad news?

    what was the result of your award. i got my text the day after saying the same
    The original was 8 points daily living, 4 points mobility, ergo standard daily living and no mobility award.  Went to tribunal over 2 weeks ago and the award was 9 points daily living, 14 points mobility, so she retained the standard daily living but was awarded enhanced mobility.

    Over 2 weeks later and she is still awaiting anything from the DWP though. Her PIP payment went in Thursday and it was the old rate.
  • smay86smay86 Member Posts: 1 Listener
    Hi I recently had my telephone assement on the 4/2/21 I recieved a text on the 10/2/21 to say they have recieved my report which I requested a copy of on the 15/2/21 and recieved on the 16/2/21 my report says I've been given 13 points for daily living but none for mobility seem very quick that they sent report out what are my chances of being awarded pip or could that all change when they make a decision don't see the point in doing assessments if they just going to refuse you ! Thanks 
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