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Assessment report

poppy60poppy60 Member Posts: 46 Connected
edited October 2018 in PIP, DLA and AA
Hi
has anyone got their assessment report and added up the points in the boxes ? If so when you received your decision did it match up to what you thought you’d get ?

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  • Government_needs_reformGovernment_needs_reform Member Posts: 858 Pioneering
    @poppy60 I can assure you if you feel you've got more than adequate points more than 12 on each section recommend by the report you've recieved, the DWP desicion maker will in 99.9% of the time goe with the assessment providers report.

    Only in vary rare occasions the DWP go against them. I got 38 points spread between the two daily living and mobility on mine and all agreed by the DWP.
    ⬇️
    I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
    This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
    I highlighted everything that's wrong with this country from benefits, NHS, UC etc, but now we have to put up with the hate now that is the Tories. 

    You can see the video here.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY


  • poppy60poppy60 Member Posts: 46 Connected
    Aw thank you . I only have 12 for mobility because she lied and said I can follow journeys which I can’t . I got 16 for care 
  • Government_needs_reformGovernment_needs_reform Member Posts: 858 Pioneering
    edited October 2018
    Your welcome @poppy60 looks like you should be okay with that amount of points, I woulden't worry to much she bent the truth, I would be suprised if you don't get Enhanced on both. Please let us know how you got on when you get your decision from the DWP. Good luck.
    ⬇️
    I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
    This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
    I highlighted everything that's wrong with this country from benefits, NHS, UC etc, but now we have to put up with the hate now that is the Tories. 

    You can see the video here.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY


  • poppy60poppy60 Member Posts: 46 Connected
    Your welcome @poppy60 looks like you should be okay with that amount of points, I woulden't worry to much she bent the truth, I would be suprised if you don't get Enhanced on both. Please let us know how you got on when you get your decision from the DWP. Good luck.

  • poppy60poppy60 Member Posts: 46 Connected
    I have secondary progressive MS but the accessor said she recommended a review in 2 years . Do you think DWP will change that ?
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi,

    It's very rare they go against the report, even for the length of time given before a review, so i would be very surprised if the DM goes against the report for both of these.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • Government_needs_reformGovernment_needs_reform Member Posts: 858 Pioneering
    poppy60 said:
    I have secondary progressive MS but the accessor said she recommended a review in 2 years . Do you think DWP will change that ?

    Well @poppy60 as @poppy123456 has stated they do usually go with the recommenced review time, in your case 2 years which really is disgusting as they full well know you will only deteriorate.

    If and I will say they will also go by the 2 years you've stated. When it comes to review I would imagine you will get pretty much the full 2 years as it's a short award.

    My guessing if it's is 2 years you will need to refill a full PIP2 form in again around 14 weeks before the award ends if they do to decide the DWP to give you a longer award then it will be an AR1 form a year before.
    ⬇️
    I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
    This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
    I highlighted everything that's wrong with this country from benefits, NHS, UC etc, but now we have to put up with the hate now that is the Tories. 

    You can see the video here.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY


  • poppy60poppy60 Member Posts: 46 Connected
    I know what your saying but progressive MS is not going away 🙁
  • poppy60poppy60 Member Posts: 46 Connected
    poppy60 said:
    I have secondary progressive MS but the accessor said she recommended a review in 2 years . Do you think DWP will change that ?

    Well @poppy60 as @poppy123456 has stated they do usually go with the recommenced review time, in your case 2 years which really is disgusting as they full well know you will only deteriorate.

    If and I will say they will also go by the 2 years you've stated. When it comes to review I would imagine you will get pretty much the full 2 years as it's a short award.

    My guessing if it's is 2 years you will need to refill a full PIP2 form in again around 14 weeks before the award ends if they do to decide the DWP to give you a longer award then it will be an AR1 form a year before.

  • poppy60poppy60 Member Posts: 46 Connected
    The government is talking about light touch assessment every 10 years for people with progressive illness so I’ve read . Perhaps they think I will be cured in 2 years 
  • Government_needs_reformGovernment_needs_reform Member Posts: 858 Pioneering
    @poppy60 I know that and you know that, and they certainly know that too..

    im afraid you will have to wait and see were this goes, please let use know how it all goes. :)
    ⬇️
    I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
    This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
    I highlighted everything that's wrong with this country from benefits, NHS, UC etc, but now we have to put up with the hate now that is the Tories. 

    You can see the video here.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY


  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    I agree but if you don't ask for an ongoing award the chances are you won't get it, at least this is what i've been told on here.

    If the recommendation is review in 2 years then your award will be for 3 years with review in 2 years, which will mean more forms 1 year before the award is due to end (AR1 forms)

    There's nothing more you can at this stage until a decision is made. Once it's made if the award is short you can challenge this decision but you'll need expert advice before doing this and no one can give you that here. Good luck.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • poppy60poppy60 Member Posts: 46 Connected
  • poppy60poppy60 Member Posts: 46 Connected
    @poppy123456
    thankyou will let you know . What did u get ?
  • Government_needs_reformGovernment_needs_reform Member Posts: 858 Pioneering
    @poppy60 I've got progressive and many other issues and I got and I feel very lucky too. On-going No FTF, and No further reviews needed 

    I can't advise what poppy123456 has said by asking for a higher award I have heard people mentioning it? Also 2 year awards can just be 2 years.



    ⬇️
    I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
    This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
    I highlighted everything that's wrong with this country from benefits, NHS, UC etc, but now we have to put up with the hate now that is the Tories. 

    You can see the video here.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY


  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    I claim Standard daily living and Enhanced mobility. My daughter claims Enhanced for both. Her award is for 2 years with review in 1 year and she has a learning disability and Autism.... there must be a cure that's unknown to me for both of these LOL. I'll be asking for the ongoing award for her when it's her review time. Good luck with yours.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • Government_needs_reformGovernment_needs_reform Member Posts: 858 Pioneering
    Poppy and poppy good luck to you both. ❤️❤️

    Poppy123456 good luck in asking for on-going that will be interesting...And Your right how ridiculous as we know there's no cure for autism or learning disabilities.☹️
    ⬇️
    I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
    This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
    I highlighted everything that's wrong with this country from benefits, NHS, UC etc, but now we have to put up with the hate now that is the Tories. 

    You can see the video here.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY


  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    poppy60 said:
    The government is talking about light touch assessment every 10 years for people with progressive illness so I’ve read . Perhaps they think I will be cured in 2 years 
    Yes but isn't that only for those who receive the enhanced rates for mobility and care?


  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    edited October 2018
    I claim Standard daily living and Enhanced mobility. My daughter claims Enhanced for both. Her award is for 2 years with review in 1 year and she has a learning disability and Autism.... there must be a cure that's unknown to me for both of these LOL. I'll be asking for the ongoing award for her when it's her review time. Good luck with yours.
    I think we would all like to hear how you go on with that application.
    And let us know what evidence you have used to secure an ongoing award.

    From memory the DWP are currently only giving 3 year awards for those who have terminal cancer.
  • poppy60poppy60 Member Posts: 46 Connected
    @Yadnad
    im not entirely sure on this at the moment . 
  • Government_needs_reformGovernment_needs_reform Member Posts: 858 Pioneering
    @Yadnad anyone with terminal cancers are all only ever going to recieve a 3 year award. Reasons I suspect why they only get 3 is the DWP expect them to be passed away by then... :'(

    YAD ongoing awards is going to be for more progressive and severe life long conditions and or are on enhance both daily/mobility.
    ⬇️
    I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
    This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
    I highlighted everything that's wrong with this country from benefits, NHS, UC etc, but now we have to put up with the hate now that is the Tories. 

    You can see the video here.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY


  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    @Yadnad anyone with terminal cancers are all only ever going to recieve a 3 year award. Reasons I suspect why they only get 3 is the DWP expect them to be passed away by then... :'(

    Totally agree with you here. Sadly, terminal cancer is a lot different to someone who has ASD and a learning disability.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • niknooniknoo Member Posts: 46 Connected
    I’m the same boat, report has given me 42 points all together so blew it out of the water and looking at enhanced for both, but report states review in 18 months but when I add the points and take away the points based on my mental health issues it on takes away 2 for care and 8 for mobility- both leaving enough points to still get enhanced for both components, so I will be starting that when review comes as my physical conditions will only progress, there’s no cure or anything but pain management, so next time I will ask for ongoing on that basis. 
    But ... he did say review would only be needed to make sure things haven’t got worse. 
    I doubt my mental health will improve, it’s been 12yrs now so 18 months isn’t going to help and I try my hardest to engage with CBT etc but sometimes I find it too hard to speak about things, meet with people or I’m just too physically ill. It’s a no win situation! :( 
  • sarah50sarah50 Member Posts: 119 Pioneering
    I read on another thread that if you ask DWP what evidence they used for the length of the award they may increase it because they don't usually use any. I think someone on here will know better than me but it might be worth asking that question.
  • Government_needs_reformGovernment_needs_reform Member Posts: 858 Pioneering
    We well @poppy60 and @niknoo I see you are both suffering and it really does look like you should both be okay. But I'm sorry to say the only way for sure is now waiting for your decision notices and then you can take it from there. Wishing you both well.❤️

    @poppy123456 it really is truly sad indeed I have a friend going through lung cancer stage 4 squamous cell and been told a max of 9 months live, and he doesent even want to claim PIP because he seen how I've suffered with it  I did tell him you should be straight forward as he can get a DS1500 form and it's passported but he said what's the point I'm going to die anyway.. very sad seeing him like this indeed.☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️
    ⬇️
    I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
    This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
    I highlighted everything that's wrong with this country from benefits, NHS, UC etc, but now we have to put up with the hate now that is the Tories. 

    You can see the video here.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY


  • poppy60poppy60 Member Posts: 46 Connected
    @niknoo
    dont know what you mean by taking points off your 42 points 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    @Government_needs_reform i'm sorry to hear about your friend! :(
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • Government_needs_reformGovernment_needs_reform Member Posts: 858 Pioneering
    sarah50 said:
    I read on another thread that if you ask DWP what evidence they used for the length of the award they may increase it because they don't usually use any. I think someone on here will know better than me but it might be worth asking that question.
    Hi @sarah50 I can't speak for others on here but on both my ESA and PIP they have used all my evidence fully justified it all and gave me the correct awards.

    i have heard of similar where this maybe possible.
    ⬇️
    I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
    This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
    I highlighted everything that's wrong with this country from benefits, NHS, UC etc, but now we have to put up with the hate now that is the Tories. 

    You can see the video here.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY


  • Government_needs_reformGovernment_needs_reform Member Posts: 858 Pioneering
    @Government_needs_reform i'm sorry to hear about your friend! :(

    Thank you @poppy123456 really apreciate that❤️ What's so sad he's worked hard like us, bought a house, saved money. For what to die before Xmas and he's only 58 and I've know him over 50 years, and I do and will have the memory's of some of the best times together.

    I did say to him if I could take it from you I would Im no good for nothing now how wrong.
    ⬇️
    I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
    This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
    I highlighted everything that's wrong with this country from benefits, NHS, UC etc, but now we have to put up with the hate now that is the Tories. 

    You can see the video here.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY


  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    @poppy123456 it really is truly sad indeed I have a friend going through lung cancer stage 4 squamous cell and been told a max of 9 months live, and he doesent even want to claim PIP because he seen how I've suffered with it  I did tell him you should be straight forward as he can get a DS1500 form and it's passported but he said what's the point I'm going to die anyway.. very sad seeing him like this indeed.☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️
    I can really associate with your friend's position on this.
    My mum was diagnosed with aggressive cancer of the breast. She had it removed + lymph nodes. She was OK for about 6 months but was then diagnosed with liver cancer and was given the same prognosis - 9 months to live.

    Not having a lot of spare money and having to go to hospital three times a week, she used the bus (30min) and a walk (15min) to get there and back.

    I pleaded with her to claim Attendance Allowance so that she could go by taxi. She refused to claim it for the very same reason you mentioned - what was the point she was going to die within months anyway and didn't want anybody coming to assess her finances and health

    In fact she lasted only 5 months and I am sure that the public transport she had to use finished her off too early.
      
    In fact she was one of those that would also have been entitled to Pension Credit as the Government continually admit is happening. She would not claim that either as she was too frightened of the means testing system.

    I really feel for your friend in all of this 
  • poppy60poppy60 Member Posts: 46 Connected
    @Yadnad
    i had the same with my friend she wouldn’t claim and has passed away now with cervical cancer. I myself had breast cancer 9 years ago then 6 years ago diagnosed with MS . Life is so unfair 😡
  • sarah50sarah50 Member Posts: 119 Pioneering
    @government_needs_reform hi my earlier comment just related to asking for the length of the award to be reconsidered not necessarily the amount of the award. As the poster was saying 2 years almost means going through the process every year, it would seem to make sense that they be given it for a longer term, they could of course ask for a reconsideration if there was a significant deteriation during the award period, after all with a progressive condition you are never going to be entitled to less than the original award and as the government keeps banging on about the cost of welfare unnecessary assessments cost money, not to mention the harm all the extra stress puts on claimants carers and families. Just a thought. X
  • poppy60poppy60 Member Posts: 46 Connected
    @sarah50
    its crazy that she even suggests 2 year review it’s not like my progressive MS is going to improve x
  • Government_needs_reformGovernment_needs_reform Member Posts: 858 Pioneering
    @sarah50 I was also meaning the award length, and just relooked at my post but I forgot to put this (length) in. O'silly me.

    It's all these pills I'm on Sarah Sorry..😂
    ⬇️
    I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
    This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
    I highlighted everything that's wrong with this country from benefits, NHS, UC etc, but now we have to put up with the hate now that is the Tories. 

    You can see the video here.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY


  • Government_needs_reformGovernment_needs_reform Member Posts: 858 Pioneering
    Thanks @yadnad and @poppy60 I'm also sorry to hear your losses too, it's surly sad time when we see you love ones and friends suffer. It's a very sad situation indeed. God bless em❤️❤️❤️❤️ 
    ⬇️
    I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
    This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
    I highlighted everything that's wrong with this country from benefits, NHS, UC etc, but now we have to put up with the hate now that is the Tories. 

    You can see the video here.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY


  • poppy60poppy60 Member Posts: 46 Connected
    What is a 3 tier award the person that said it has disappeared. He said to me it looks like I have a 3 tier award as got points and 2 year review. Am I being thick or something. Two many tablets 😂 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    poppy60 said:
    What is a 3 tier award the person that said it has disappeared. He said to me it looks like I have a 3 tier award as got points and 2 year review. Am I being thick or something. Two many tablets 😂 
    The person meant a 3 year award and not tier or Tear as they put it.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • Government_needs_reformGovernment_needs_reform Member Posts: 858 Pioneering
    @poppy60 just looked back through all the posts and No 3 tier award mentioned...?

    Do what I do and put it down to the Pills...or a mad moment😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👍🏻 Of forgetfulness.
    ⬇️
    I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
    This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
    I highlighted everything that's wrong with this country from benefits, NHS, UC etc, but now we have to put up with the hate now that is the Tories. 

    You can see the video here.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY


  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    It was mentioned on another thread started by poppy60. Confusion often sets in when multiple threads are started. lol
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • poppy60poppy60 Member Posts: 46 Connected
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