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Dealing with doctors

crackercracker Member Posts: 324 Pioneering
edited November 2018 in Disabled people
I had an appointment at Dartmouth-Hitchcock, an excellent hospital four hours away. It was for tomorrow.

Dartmouth clalled me today and said the doctor never sent in a referral. She had two weeks to do this. So no appointment tomorrow, and I need to see someone at Dartmouth.

I am amazed at how I have to keep a close eye on doctors. They forget to do what they say they will so often. 

Dealing with disability and getting proper treatment seems like a job sometimes.

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  • Firefly123Firefly123 Member Posts: 525 Pioneering
    I agree having the same problem at the minute having to remind them why I'm there when it's them who told me to come back for steroid injections or whatever.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 58 Connected
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  • gtsgts Member Posts: 13 Listener
    edited November 2018
    Yes my previous doctor is an [expletive removed by moderator] he wouldnt contact the specialist i was advised to see but i told him who do u think you are ? he soon changed his mind when he saw my reaction change ur doctor pal good luck.
  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello @cracker Thanks very much for this. I know had issues with Doctors before.

    Looking at advocates. Someone to represent me.

    Had that a few times. Even had one advocate asking the Doctor in your situation a referral and reminding the Doctor to need that report.

    Had one time most Doctors treated me like a number and next before even sat down.

    Seven minutes. So tried writing it down and that worked then contacted advocates someone to sit in with me. Through mental health charity.

    There are several in this country.  Look on line.

    Appointment arrived and the Doctor it was all different got what I needed.  Listen to me and it was OK from then on.

    Especially later when support worker intervened as well.

    Understand every ones issues. One time I was a advocate to my former friends when they had an appointment went with them.  Many were disabled, mentally ill. 

    If I need an advocate can not get any body now ask my friend to attend . Ask some one who knows you to attend with you. More people in the surgery often has the effect because they can often tell the Doctor from a friends perspective how you are really.

    All of us do not really say what is wrong and often want to say but struggle to talk.

    Surgery were notified  that I was being in attendance and that changed the attitude of many.  Also say my friends is coming.  That helped as well.

    I know we are all adults and sensible members of our community. Not stupid or need to be holding hands but sometimes this is the only way.

    Hope that helps.

    Take care 

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  • gtsgts Member Posts: 13 Listener
    Hi thanks for the advice, my daughter is a specialist child nurse travelling around Gtr Manchester making sure the kids are ok & the things she tells me is heartbreaking ? UC paying all the rent money UC etc to claimant & drug addicts feeding their habits & the kids starving & cold & this is the UC approach to this CRAZY situation. She is contacting a welfare rights lady to see me & sort out all my queries & benefits ? i have a 37 week wait for my ESA tribunal & 45 weeks PIP mobility & my UC assessment coming up as there are thousands of appeals & few judges ? perhaps they should train more judges & reduce the 4 grand a week these assessors get paid it `s so unjust profit`s have quadrupled in 8 years ? sounds corrupt to me good luck pal.
  • topshoestopshoes Member Posts: 442 Pioneering
    edited November 2018
    @gts and you can get pip if you are a alcholic too , and if you lie on your form and say you can not do this and that you get the high rate pip for both , i know what gos on and it makes me sick , they just want the money for beer
  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    edited November 2018
    Hello @topshoes I totally disagree about your comments regarding alcoholism.

    Understand the criticism of the system.. That is your choice and view to express that.  but I am an reformed alcoholic been clean for eleven years.

    Was an alcoholic for thirty as well as drugs.

    This is a serious condition an actual disease. Alcoholism is classed by The World Health Organisation as such.

    Addiction is a serious illness and blights more than you think.  Effecting families and loved ones all over the Country. I myself have lost a lot friends due to addiction and it constantly haunts me so many  days.

    Took me eighteen months to come off because if you just stop. The body reacts causing firstly heart papultations, sweaty pallor and can disrupt the functions of the kidneys and all organs.

    So you need to come off slowly .  Understand also the body has itching, pain, bowel, bladder problems and issues.

    Which can be destressing to any body like me. Still have the constant need to go to the toilet . Drink eat anything like kidneys and bowels the urge to go all the time.

    I am free but have fear of relapse all the time. Stress, anxiety and depression all prevalent all the time the end result.

    Effects bones, weight I lost from 15 stone plus to a mere 7 stone.  Dietary needs had and did have blackouts, sleep problems, night mares. paranoid feelings.

     May I add any body can be an alcoholic.  There are limits per day what you are drinking.

    I thought I was not but was, after a stint in rehab. Now on here to support my brothers and sisters of the community. Especially those like myself.

    One of the team of community champions.

    Please take care 

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  • topshoestopshoes Member Posts: 442 Pioneering
    Hi @ thespiceman first of all i was commenting on gts post what he said , second i married into a whole  family of them and he was one to , but i think we will not go down that road , glad you are all good now 
  • colindunnecolindunne Member Posts: 20 Connected
    I can totally understand people’s frustrations with doctors as I have had an horrendous experience with my previous doctor/surgery.As far as I’m concerned it is lying when they say they haven’t done anything wrong and keep denying it but hey ho when you prove it,it’s not deemed serious.Doctor prescribed my mother a incompatible drug for her and it caused her to have strokes,In the end she died on her fourth stroke but apparently it had nothing to do with her death,even though she had never had a stroke before.It turns out this drug has not been clinically trialled in this country but has in America.My mother had a mechanical heart valve and in America the trial was stopped because of strokes in people with that type of valve and in some cases death and stopped very quickly,how the hell did he not know this information and it turns out he asked a colleague but they still hadn’t picked up on the fact,so again in my view two doctors got it wrong!So after months of emails phone calls I finally got some answers and yes I was right all along she should never have been prescribed them.It ended with me having a meeting in London with the GMC,great I thought.How wrong I was!Whilst they found him negligent they asked me if there was anything I would like to ask.So I said yes and handed them 11 questions of which they answered  NONE!These doctors are really not held accountable why!He blatantly lied which is highly disturbing.I mention a bit more in my other post today but this has been such a stressful time all because he refused to admit his mistakes,all my mother wanted was an apology so he was the architect of his downfall (he has it permanently on his records)as it would not of gone that far if he had held his hands up. The point I would like to make is they make it so hard to question a doctor but if you have problems you have to persevere and be prepared for plenty of setbacks as the system is totally on the doctors side. I am still dealing with the legal side of it over 3 years later and 2 years since her death but have today received a letter from my not very good solicitor stating that the only the 15 days in hospital and a bit of dribbling was the only damage caused by the mistake,REALLY what about her inability to use her left arm properly and dropped face and the fact it has changed her energy levels to virtually nothing.Let alone the fact that it’s proven the risk of secondary strokes is greater after having your first stroke this has been completely ignored. I still have a massive fight to get the truth but will now do whatever I can to prove at the very minimum that his actions contributed to and speeded up her death.He thinks it’s all over but we will see.Good luck to anyone involved with problem doctors as you will need it but if you know you are right keep going I’m now getting to the interesting stage when I refuse any offer and refuse to except the outcome so hopefully I can get to court to get the truth. I am more than happy to help anyone (if I can).
  • topshoestopshoes Member Posts: 442 Pioneering
    edited November 2018
    Hi @colindunne this is so sad  what i have read , you will always find  drs and nurses will always stick together dont matter what 
  • colindunnecolindunne Member Posts: 20 Connected
    Thanks topshoes it certainly does not fill you wth any confidence but my partner lost her partner 20 years ago due to serious medical negligence.Two doctors got struck off it was a massive case.But fortunately a nurse came forward and her evidence proved the case so there are some people who will be truthful thankfully.
  • topshoestopshoes Member Posts: 442 Pioneering
     you are more then welcome @colindunne ,  any time you need to talk just give me a shout ,  yes its so bad when they do not face up to what they done, they know alright ,its a sad old world , and i bet all this has took over your life  too , 
  • colindunnecolindunne Member Posts: 20 Connected
    You are so right about overtaking my life it’s totally consumed me and trying to deal with my own personal battle is exhausting thanks for listening and replying.
  • patriciahendypatriciahendy Member Posts: 20 Courageous
    Are the assessors really getting 4 grand a week?
  • topshoestopshoes Member Posts: 442 Pioneering
    edited November 2018
    i do understand, any time 
  • topshoestopshoes Member Posts: 442 Pioneering
    edited November 2018
    @patriciahendy i can not see that can you , what makes you say that 
  • TopkittenTopkitten Member Posts: 1,263 Pioneering
    I have had all sorts of problems with doctors.

    The most common is to be misdiagnosed initially with crumbling spine as they only read the one line description and not the rest of my notes and this has also led to a lot of "being over-medicated" comments. I have had a senior partner refuse to talk to me and no other doctor would treat me either because of his seniority. On 2 occasions I have tried to start the complaints procedure only to find my letter ignored and to be kicked off their list (de-registered). I have even had a doctor shout and swear at me and then slam the phone down and then follow that up by claiming to the Practice Manager that it was me that acted that way. I have been given lectures by doctors and Practice Managers and currently have a PM who refuses to discuss medical issues at all. I've had referrals done to wrong departments or not done at all or for the wrong type of treatment (such as my recent referral for an OT assessment which was turned down as they don't treat long term conditions?). My current surgery just reports a busy signal when telephoned 6-7 hours a day. I have had promised call-backs forgotten and referrals for GP treatment sent by 111, A&E and ambulance crews ignored. I've even had a doctor refuse to discuss medication (just mumbling in response to my requests) for 6 months because he didn't want to tell me he would refuse to raise it further. I have had a senior partner refuse to change me from the maximum Tramadol dosage (highly addictive) to opiate patches because it was "against his principles to put anyone on addictive medication".

    GP's make a general diagnosis of a condition and then follow a set procedure (never varying it by observed results) to treat it (like following a script). They will only vary things if results point to an incorrect initial diagnosis (though most will NEVER admit such a thing). Almost none will make the effort to properly follow up medication changes, poor reactions or other problems.

    Doctors expect to be given complete respect disregarding completely that respect and trust are earned and not given. Many junior doctors are like teenagers and always assume they are right, if they haven't heard of it then it doesn't exist and will never research the situation.

    You name a bad situation and doctors will do it and cover up for each other if things go wrong and are not averse to putting complete fabrications onto patient records to support their pov.

    TK
    "I'm on the wrong side of heaven and the righteous side of hell" - from Wrong side of heaven by Five Finger Death Punch.
  • topshoestopshoes Member Posts: 442 Pioneering
     @topkitten so sorry to hear this , got to say you have been through it aright ,shame they do not go back to pen and paper like many years back , and you just have one dr who knows every think about you .
  • TopkittenTopkitten Member Posts: 1,263 Pioneering
    Too many patients reporting too many trivial problems and overloading even the best of surgeries, not that I would class my current one as being even competent,

    TK
    "I'm on the wrong side of heaven and the righteous side of hell" - from Wrong side of heaven by Five Finger Death Punch.
  • topshoestopshoes Member Posts: 442 Pioneering
    @Topkitten lol i know what you mean far to well up drs and hospital ,
  • topshoestopshoes Member Posts: 442 Pioneering
    @Topkitten got to say my dr is on the ball , very good dr its the rest 
  • cmcicmci Member Posts: 36 Connected
    Getting quite naffed off by some, not all, comments about Drs - remember Dr's and Nurses are people too, open to making wrong judgements, diagnoses, referral decisions.  If you don't like, trust, respect the Dr - get another.  we all need somebody to blame at times, get angry with at times most Drs and Nurses expect that and appreciate the challenges brought to them.  Sometimes we have to recognise our personality doesn't get on with theirs.  And yes, I am a Nurse, married to a GP both with disabilities 
  • colindunnecolindunne Member Posts: 20 Connected
    Hi cmci everyone is entitled to the truth and that’s all we wanted. I called this doctor out for lying and proved it he didn’t like it.Hence why he had to re-train in four aspects.Wouldnt have it on his records now so should they be allowed to get away with it?
  • Ami2301Ami2301 Community Co-Production Group Posts: 7,469 Disability Gamechanger
    I agree with you @cmci

    Medical professionals are humans too, they make mistakes just like we do. How they can remember so many different types of conditions and medications amazes me. 

    I am sorry to you all who have had a bad experience.
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  • cmcicmci Member Posts: 36 Connected
    As I said naffed off with some, not all.  What you describe is awful but one liar does not make every GP a liar.  I take it you have a new GP and can work together on your health needs.
  • Firefly123Firefly123 Member Posts: 525 Pioneering
    I actually had a great doctor who quit live on the news as he was could not deal with all the extra demands put on GP's he could no longer cope with the workload.he is very much missed. By so many of his patients 
  • cmcicmci Member Posts: 36 Connected
    Hello Colindunne - I'd do exactly what you done and report him and aspect action to be taken.  Hopefully that would have a positive influence but I wouldn't be with that GP again because my trust and respect would be gone.
  • crackercracker Member Posts: 324 Pioneering




    Hello, all,

    We all have had grave problems with the medical profession, I see. I am most definitely alone.

    Many good doctors have either left town or left the profession. It is not the medical side, it is the overwhelming amount of work dealing with insurance companies and government regulations. Many of them hire someone to do paperwork alone.

    It's so sad to see all your stories. We, who are the sector of the population most burdened by illness, must use energy that could be directed at our healing and support just to try to get p;roper medical treatment.
  • colindunnecolindunne Member Posts: 20 Connected
    So true cracker the whole process is an absolute con.Like I said in an earlier post I asked the GMC 11 questions about my mothers death,none of them answered so what’s the point. I had to go to London from Southampton at the height of my back problems on a train the process itself is exhausting and heavily in favour of the doctors.EVERYONE makes mistakes and understandably theres will often have serious consequences but honesty is expected from so called respected people. I can’t stand the fact that he and two more surgery employees lied repeatedly.It has totally destroyed my trust in them.
  • colindunnecolindunne Member Posts: 20 Connected
    Hi cmci firstly I was with the same surgery from birth up to the age of 48.My mother was a seriously ill for the last 20 years of her life and I was also her carer whilst trying to make a life for myself.We both had very good doctor/patient relationships with no problems up to this point.That nice doctor was disgraceful in the end.when I had the report about my mothers death it was noted he asked another doctor about the medication for my mother.So I picked up on the fact that two of them got it wrong.The silence was deafening, and completely ignored.They have top barristers to write their statements but I still caught them again with that fact.
  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello @colindunne Pleased to meet you. First so sorry what has happened to your and your Mother.

    We except all Doctors to treat us well care for us and when it all goes wrong. The old boys network becomes  a reality.

    I have a long term disability two operations on my hands went wrong at the hands of an inexperienced junior Doctor who had not much knowledge of doing surgery .

    Was the 70's so have been there.

    I understand reading your story and thank you for enlighten us the community.  Sorry you have a lot to cope with.

    I thought try to help and advise.  If I can I am one of the team of community champions on the forum.  Concerned and care about our community members. Been on the NHS  website just seeing what is available for those wishing to complain against a Doctor.

    You mentioned having a Solicitor I wonder have you contacted Parliamentary and Health Services Ombudsman or PALS . Patient Advice Liaison.  Also Local Government and Social Care Ombudsman.

    For advice, information plus any legalities . They are I believe responsible for safe practices of the NHS.

    Hope that helps.

    One final point I hope you get this resolved. I can feel the pain and frustration in your posts.

    Always here to listen, be a friend anytime you wish to.

    Pleasure to meet you.

    Take care

    @thespiceman

     



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  • topshoestopshoes Member Posts: 442 Pioneering
    Hi @colindunne no one should have to justify themselves to anyone on a post unless you are asking for help and then need to be ask questions , only time people  needs to  justify themselves is to  the  police, solicitor ,and in a court of law   x
  • colindunnecolindunne Member Posts: 20 Connected
    Hi spiceman if I had to tells the whole of my story it would seriously make you think this bloke is lying. I seriously have had the worst experience but sure people have been through more. I would say I would be in the top four of the premier league though. I have had to stop the investigation at the moment as it made me so ill on top of my own problems. I probably had multiple breakdowns during all this,all which could of been avoided if he and his colleagues had told the truth. I am toying with the idea of going to the ombudsman as I now have a bit more strength but reality is it absolutely drains you physically and mentally.He should not be able to practice any more simple. I have told them that he will make more mistakes as he is arrogant,ignorant,aloof.When I got the outcome he Had already had two incidents on his records,how serious I don’t know but seems to me they can and do get away with murder. I have had dealings with all your recommendations and am still debating whether to go for it again,as I believe he will continue to make mistakes. Thanks for your support I also have had a great many life experiences that only seem to of happened to me as no-one else I know has had any where near the **** I have been through in life. I seriously am not looking for sympathy it doesn’t help but am willing to help anyone if I can.Again thanks 👍
  • Laura99Laura99 Member Posts: 62 Courageous
    Are the assessors really getting 4 grand a week?
    No, of course not. They might be more efficient if they were.

  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello @colindunne How are you? Thanks to replying. Sorry I missed this.

    Add that also had two incidents in my life regarding surgery where the Doctor was an inexperienced junior having no knowledge of surgery procedures.

    Coming from a Third World Country had been trained there and on secondment to a hospital in London . This was the 70's .  Lied on his qualifications, not checked and all records were falsified to my knowledge.

    The other one sorry if I distressed you was about wrong meds been given

    This is different now as I know but maybe the strength you need is to think to try to carry on. Remember you could contact your MP. A lot of the politicians what we may think of them are now very much concerned with people like your good self.

    They do want to know.  I am sure of this and I always think the political landscape has changed.

    Especially with the PIP and ESA and all that around it. Seen a lot of community members complain to there MP, get some results. Might be worth it.

    Hope I offered any words that be useful.

    Thank you for sharing and we as a community are here anytime.

    Pleasure to meet you

    Take care

    @thespiceman


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  • WaylayWaylay Member Posts: 922 Pioneering

    "UC paying all the rent money UC etc to claimant & drug addicts feeding their habits & the kids starving & cold"
    This is incredibly uncommon.

    "and you can get pip if you are a alcholic too"
    Both drug and alcohol addiction are disabilities according to the WHO, the DWP, etc. The original choice to take that drink, or snort that line, was theirs, but once the addiction kicks in, it is no longer a choice - it is a disease. Have you seen the way addicts live? Many are homeless (fun fun!), have lost their families, kids, savings, etc. to their addictions (woohoo, gimme some of that!), suffer from both short=term and long-term health problems due to their addictions (oh yeah, baby) and are desperately miserable. If they could stop, they would. Why would anyone stay in a life like that if they could help it?

    Speaking of miserable, a little known fact is that a large proportion of addicts (drugs/alcohol/gambling/whatever) have mental health problems and/or have suffered from trauma (domestic violence, child abuse, rape, war trauma, etc.) They use their substance of choice to escape from the horrible things in their minds/lives. These people are badly wounded, and they're using substances as painkillers. With mental health services practically non-existent, what else can they do?

    They are sick - do you know any serious alcoholics? Do you really think they could work? As they continue down the addictive pathway they get sicker: pancreatitis, blood-borne diseases, infections, liver damage, etc. reduce their function even more. Even when they do manage to stop drinking/drugging/etc., the underlying issues are still there, and they often need mental health support to get to be able to live with what they've been through.

    "if you lie on your form and say you can not do this and that you get the high rate pip for both , i know what gos on and it makes me sick"
    Seriously? You know how hard it is to get PIP, and how small the amount of money is. Why would anyone do so much work and go through so much stress to get so little money, knowing that they'll have to do it over and over again? Besides, the DWP itself says that fraud in disability/sickness benefits is less than 1%.

    @cmci Yeah, and most medical professionals are providing their services under enormous stress, without adequate funding or support. I think they're heroes. However, mistakes happen, and will happen more often in this kind of environment, and they need to be honest about what happened.
  • gtsgts Member Posts: 13 Listener
    Unfortunately things will get worse with drugs & alcohol everything in moderation however some of us have more sense & self discipline & do`nt turn to excess ? it`s the children who suffer. The chain has to stop & more govt money is needed to help these people but charities are in dire straits now & the big HUSH is the alarming rate suicide is happening. MY daughter is a specialist child nurse she see`s it all too many greedy people in power looking after their own.
  • Laura99Laura99 Member Posts: 62 Courageous
    gts said:
    Unfortunately things will get worse with drugs & alcohol everything in moderation however some of us have more sense & self discipline & do`nt turn to excess ? it`s the children who suffer. The chain has to stop & more govt money is needed to help these people but charities are in dire straits now & the big HUSH is the alarming rate suicide is happening. MY daughter is a specialist child nurse she see`s it all too many greedy people in power looking after their own.


    I really must take issue with you about drug and alcohol addiction. Addiction is an illness. It is not a question of self-discipline.

    I find your comments very offensive.
  • Sam_AlumniSam_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 7,731 Disability Gamechanger
    Please be aware that we want the community to be a safe and supportive space, we ask that everyone think about their comments before posting something that could be upsetting or offensive to others.
    The World Health Organisation recognises alcoholism as a disease. It is an illness that may be due to genetically inherited defects in neuro-transmission systems in the mood centres of the brain. Some people may be born with an addictive nature, rather than become addicts as a result of social trauma or personal inadequacy. - Dr Robert Lefever


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  • colindunnecolindunne Member Posts: 20 Connected
    Why am I getting these emails when I have not mentioned anything about alcoholism ?
  • gtsgts Member Posts: 13 Listener
    I`m sorry if i offended you ? however the children`s safety is paramount.
  • Laura99Laura99 Member Posts: 62 Courageous
    gts said:
    I`m sorry if i offended you ? however the children`s safety is paramount.

    It was me who you offended.



  • gtsgts Member Posts: 13 Listener
    ok however the adults have a choice & the children d`ont
  • Laura99Laura99 Member Posts: 62 Courageous
    gts said:
    ok however the adults have a choice & the children d`ont

    No, the adults don't have a choice, gts. Alcoholism and drug addiction are not lifestyle choices. They are mental health conditions which are viewed as such by the medical profession. Children who are abused frequently end up with these illnesses. You are simply not understanding what is being said to you by many people on this site.
  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello @Laura99 I know reading this post was about Dealing with Doctors.  I apologise for this. The originator of the post.

    Got into about alcoholism. I do and feel strongly about what has been said.

    One final point having been in a rehab unit as an out patient it is not ever my consideration to have to say.

    This is the truth children can be effected and can be alcoholics.

    Youngest I have seen is and met and talked to his Mother in the clinic is ten years old.

    First time met and still painful to write about. Asked me as I came in one morning, I recall it now. As she hollered you an alcoholic.

    Immediately belted her son across the back of his head in front of me and a whole waiting room.  To every ones horror and disbelief.

    All I have is these memories of hurt and harm alcoholism has done to me and those in my community.

    Who can identify every thing that has been said. All I need to add we as a community need to understand what is happening in our society.

    Understand one of my  stories if I can say this it is alarming.

    One organisation that shall remain nameless and have used them. Are clueless in my opinion in dealing with the problem.

    Left after two so called meetings and felt very much under whelmed plus asking the wrong questions. In my judgement got and had to leave.

    Having me to ask them for support and advice instead felt more liking to relapse due to their negativity.

    All I can say there needs to be full education in schools and what should be done in dealing with addiction.

    I asked one time to go into schools to talk about history of addiction. Having considered and thought of asking Lottery funding .

    So much for thinking and doing. Planning forget it.

    It is an epidemic now and have a friend who lost his job in the rehab centre where he works because of cuts.

    All I can add is I am alive and manage to cope but have and do have mental issues because of it.  Plus physical the end result of addiction as well. Never forget that every day in pain.

    Many community members struggling with addiction.

    Support any brother or sister who has been through it and hope they can be inspired to stay off and I can inspire them to help them to stay off.

    As I have done for eleven years on going. We all need to follow some one. 

    Always here to listen, offer guidance and be supportive.

    Pleasure to meet you.

    Take care

    @thespiceman

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  • gtsgts Member Posts: 13 Listener
    Ive got asbestosis & still manage smiling every day i`m coming off this site theres too many people feeling sorry for themselves & i go out frequently helping the homeless & hungry good luck to you all this is my last post 
  • topshoestopshoes Member Posts: 442 Pioneering
    edited November 2018
    @gts please dont come off everyone can see whats what on this page , it stands out a mile  big time  
  • cmcicmci Member Posts: 36 Connected
    Please don't leave - I nearly did but in the end used the delete button, read and offer what I when I feel able too.  
  • Laura99Laura99 Member Posts: 62 Courageous
    gts said:
    Ive got asbestosis & still manage smiling every day i`m coming off this site theres too many people feeling sorry for themselves & i go out frequently helping the homeless & hungry good luck to you all this is my last post 
    If that was directed at me, then all I can say is please stay here. Your experience is as valuable as mine.
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