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What replaces pip at 64 years

sam12
sam12 Posts: 1,338 Connected
edited July 2019 in PIP, DLA, and AA
Hopefully I get pip what happen when turn 64 
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  • wilko
    wilko Member Posts: 2,447 Disability Gamechanger
    edited July 2019
    @sam12, hello Sam as long as you meet the criteria for claiming PIP then you can still claim. If you are of an age retirement age then you can still claim your existing award but if you are on high mobility and loose it cannot be reinstated unless a MR or tribunal does so if having a review shortly make sure you all the relevant supporting evidence to ensure an successful outcome for your PIP award.
  • sam12
    sam12 Posts: 1,338 Connected
    OK thanks someone said no pip at 64 I told them they wrong he thinks he know it all. 
  • sam12
    sam12 Posts: 1,338 Connected
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  • sam12
    sam12 Posts: 1,338 Connected
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    sam12 Posts: 1,338 Connected
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  • pollyanna1052
    pollyanna1052 Member Posts: 2,032 Disability Gamechanger
    If you`re over pension age and start needing help, is it right that you can claim AA?
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 28,369 Disability Gamechanger
    If you`re over pension age and start needing help, is it right that you can claim AA?
    Yes, providing you don't already claim PIP or DLA.
  • expo
    expo Member Posts: 4 Listener
    I am 66 and my PIP has been stopped. The reason is not clearly explained. It seems they are stopping PIP on as many people as they can regardless on the health condition of the person. I am now being treated like some kind of criminal and am being denied any help or guidance. The modern type of torture.

  • sam12
    sam12 Posts: 1,338 Connected
    Am not 60 no were near more likely I get full pip am only in 40s with living difficulties effectively every day. I asked other questions but not replies 
  • sam12
    sam12 Posts: 1,338 Connected
    Must be reason why stopped u need contact [email protected] or find number online 
  • Adrian_Scope
    Adrian_Scope Posts: 8,552

    Scope community team

    Hi @sam12. When you're over national pension age, if you're a new claimant you'd need to apply for AA (attendance allowance) and unlike PIP there is no mobility element to this. However, if you already have a PIP claim in place you would continue claiming this.
    But it's a long way off for you to be thinking about yet! :)

    Hello @expo, I'm really sorry to hear about your PIP claim ended. Have you appealed the decision? 
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  • sam12
    sam12 Posts: 1,338 Connected
    My pip claim  not ended  at all I Goin tribunal november what made u think my claim ended. I Will get my disability back I done my mr last year why people automatically think my claim ended I never mentioned anything about it ending. 
  • Adrian_Scope
    Adrian_Scope Posts: 8,552

    Scope community team

    Morning @sam12. :)
    Sorry if I wasn't clear, I don't believe anyone was thinking your claim had ended, just what would happen for other people at pension age. 
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  • sam12
    sam12 Posts: 1,338 Connected
    OK dont worry I just got scared lol ? any one read my wkend msg 3 days to visit my mum pls check wkend msg pls
  • mikehughescq
    mikehughescq Posts: 8,845 Connected
    I reported a post on this thread for wholly wrong advice. Why is the post still live and why has the advice not been corrected? 

    Being aged 65 is irrelevant to the question. The question is what is your specific pensionable age. There is no national pensionable age at present as the ages are being equalised. Thus the age you might claim AA is different for everyone. 

    You can check your personal pensionable age at https://www.gov.uk/state-pension-age
  • sam12
    sam12 Posts: 1,338 Connected
    U make me feel older I sometime off yet 25 year to it 
  • cristobal
    cristobal Member Posts: 987 Disability Gamechanger
    ilovecats said:
    I reported a post on this thread for wholly wrong advice. Why is the post still live and why has the advice not been corrected? 

    Being aged 65 is irrelevant to the question. The question is what is your specific pensionable age. There is no national pensionable age at present as the ages are being equalised. Thus the age you might claim AA is different for everyone. 

    You can check your personal pensionable age at https://www.gov.uk/state-pension-age
    You do love picking out my mistakes. I wonder if another member had posted it would you have taken the same action?

    When I wrote that I was under the impression that 65 was pension age. I realised my mistake after the time lapse for edited had expired however people with more knowledge had posted the correct information below so I figured no harm done. 

    I apologise that another of my posts has annoyed you.
    @mikehughescq - I'm slightly reluctant to post a correction, but I think it's appropriate given your comments about 'wholly wrong advice' and 'why has the advice not been corrected?'

    You are wrong to say that 'the ages are being equalised' 

    Equalisation finished last year - state pension age is now the same for men and women.


  • mikehughescq
    mikehughescq Posts: 8,845 Connected
    cristobal said:
    ilovecats said:
    I reported a post on this thread for wholly wrong advice. Why is the post still live and why has the advice not been corrected? 

    Being aged 65 is irrelevant to the question. The question is what is your specific pensionable age. There is no national pensionable age at present as the ages are being equalised. Thus the age you might claim AA is different for everyone. 

    You can check your personal pensionable age at https://www.gov.uk/state-pension-age
    You do love picking out my mistakes. I wonder if another member had posted it would you have taken the same action?

    When I wrote that I was under the impression that 65 was pension age. I realised my mistake after the time lapse for edited had expired however people with more knowledge had posted the correct information below so I figured no harm done. 

    I apologise that another of my posts has annoyed you.
    @mikehughescq - I'm slightly reluctant to post a correction, but I think it's appropriate given your comments about 'wholly wrong advice' and 'why has the advice not been corrected?'

    You are wrong to say that 'the ages are being equalised' 

    Equalisation finished last year - state pension age is now the same for men and women.


    @cristobal. LOL. Technically you are absolutely correct. As of 2018 women can’t take a pension before 65 so in that sense they are equal. However, in the context of this thread the question was about what age a new claim fir PIP ceases to be possible and at present that varies from person to person. So, in my case it would be 67. For my friend it is 66 and so on. 

    So yes the original advice was wholly incorrect. It looks like that post has now been removed. 


  • mikehughescq
    mikehughescq Posts: 8,845 Connected
    @ilovecats with all due respect my aim is not to annoy you or any other poster. You can check back a long way as regards my presence on this site and you will see absolute consistency as regards any scenario where I become aware that wrong and potentially costly advice has been given. It’s never about the person. It’s only about the quality of the advice. If one person repeatedly gives wrong or misleading advice or information and that repeatedly comes to my attention when I’m browsing then yes I will repeatedly correct that and cite sources where appropriate. That may look unfortunate but that’s not my problem whereas wrong advice is very much a problem for many people on here and potentially for Scope themselves. 

    Getting pensionable age correct is now absolutely critical as the law around mixed age couples grows more complex by the day and again the consequences are irreversible. 

    I certainly have no “love” of correcting yours or anyone else’s mistakes. I’d much rather this forum was administrated in a manner that such occurrences didn’t happen. As I say, it’s not personal. Wrong or misleading advice costs money and in the world of UC those losses can be huge and irreversible. 

    As regards the post in question I cannot see any subsequent correction by another poster although of course that could be because said person is on my ignore list. 

    I will confess entirely separate concerns as regards your presence here. Again it’s not personal but I am aware that ESA and other DMs use social media against claimants. Scope talk a lot about wanting people to feel safe on this site but seem oblivious to the impact your presence already has on 3 fronts. 

    1 - advising what a HCP would do when you’re no longer up to speed on current practice. 

    2 - the repeated suggestion that what a HCP would recommend is a correct interpretation of the law, which has led to my having to intervene on one occasion to prevent someone ending their claim when they believed it was hopeless. What HCPs recommend is largely overturned when challenged. 

    3 - as on Facebook where ex HCPs and DMs have posted, those posts attract the attention of current DMs who are then able to use discussions against claimants even when accounts are run under pseudonyms. I don’t see how Scope could possibly be confident that your presence here hasn’t attracted similar attention and hasn't or couldn’t have similar negative implications on posters here. People have often posted very specific additional detail in response to some of your answers or further questions.  

    Given that they can’t possibly offer such guarantees I think their decision to allow you to post has been ill-thought through indeed. 

    Again, I need to emphasise that the above comments are not personal. They’re not about you. They’re about the specific role. The fact it’s an ex-role os neither here nor there. 
  • cristobal
    cristobal Member Posts: 987 Disability Gamechanger
    edited August 2019
    @mikehughes - once again I'm quite reluctant to post this, as it's nothing to do with the original post, but I feel that it's important.

    I value @ilovecats posts although you will see from my own posts that I sometimes disagree with what he/she is saying. I believe it is good to have the view of an ex-assessor - guidelines and case law are all very well but if the assessors do something completely different I'd like to know. That's just my opinion.

    I don't agree that your comments 'aren't personal'' and your comment that you have concerns as regards your presence here' just proves that - it is demeaning and disrespectful.

    I have thought for a while that you are trying to bully @ilovecats so that he/she stops posting and this seems to be confirmed by your last post.

    Your knowledge of the system and the advice you give is very valuable. It doesn't give you the right to treat another poster in the way that you have.


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