What replaces pip at 64 years

sam12

Hopefully I get pip what happen when turn 64 

wilko

@sam12, hello Sam as long as you meet the criteria for claiming PIP then you can still claim. If you are of an age retirement age then you can still claim your existing award but if you are on high mobility and loose it cannot be reinstated unless a MR or tribunal does so if having a review shortly make sure you all the relevant supporting evidence to ensure an successful outcome for your PIP award.

sam12

OK thanks someone said no pip at 64 I told them they wrong he thinks he know it all. 

sam12

S0 what5 happened after it.

Just had lightning no thunder 

sam12

Anyone heard airwave rank song. 

sam12

New taste alpro soya yoghurt no sugar add banana makes delious yogurt that healthy 

pollyanna1052

If you`re over pension age and start needing help, is it right that you can claim AA?

poppy123456

pollyanna1052 said:

If you`re over pension age and start needing help, is it right that you can claim AA?

Yes, providing you don't already claim PIP or DLA.

expo

I am 66 and my PIP has been stopped. The reason is not clearly explained. It seems they are stopping PIP on as many people as they can regardless on the health condition of the person. I am now being treated like some kind of criminal and am being denied any help or guidance. The modern type of torture.

sam12

Am not 60 no were near more likely I get full pip am only in 40s with living difficulties effectively every day. I asked other questions but not replies 

sam12

Must be reason why stopped u need contact [email protected] or find number online 

Adrian_Scope

Hi @sam12. When you're over national pension age, if you're a new claimant you'd need to apply for AA (attendance allowance) and unlike PIP there is no mobility element to this. However, if you already have a PIP claim in place you would continue claiming this.
But it's a long way off for you to be thinking about yet!

Hello @expo, I'm really sorry to hear about your PIP claim ended. Have you appealed the decision? 

sam12

My pip claim  not ended  at all I Goin tribunal november what made u think my claim ended. I Will get my disability back I done my mr last year why people automatically think my claim ended I never mentioned anything about it ending. 

Adrian_Scope

Morning @sam12.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, I don't believe anyone was thinking your claim had ended, just what would happen for other people at pension age. 

sam12

OK dont worry I just got scared lol 😂 any one read my wkend msg 3 days to visit my mum pls check wkend msg pls

mikehughescq

I reported a post on this thread for wholly wrong advice. Why is the post still live and why has the advice not been corrected? 

Being aged 65 is irrelevant to the question. The question is what is your specific pensionable age. There is no national pensionable age at present as the ages are being equalised. Thus the age you might claim AA is different for everyone. 

You can check your personal pensionable age at https://www.gov.uk/state-pension-age

sam12

U make me feel older I sometime off yet 25 year to it 

cristobal

ilovecats said:

mikehughescq said:

I reported a post on this thread for wholly wrong advice. Why is the post still live and why has the advice not been corrected? 

Being aged 65 is irrelevant to the question. The question is what is your specific pensionable age. There is no national pensionable age at present as the ages are being equalised. Thus the age you might claim AA is different for everyone. 

You can check your personal pensionable age at https://www.gov.uk/state-pension-age

You do love picking out my mistakes. I wonder if another member had posted it would you have taken the same action?

When I wrote that I was under the impression that 65 was pension age. I realised my mistake after the time lapse for edited had expired however people with more knowledge had posted the correct information below so I figured no harm done. 

I apologise that another of my posts has annoyed you.

@mikehughescq - I'm slightly reluctant to post a correction, but I think it's appropriate given your comments about 'wholly wrong advice' and 'why has the advice not been corrected?'

You are wrong to say that 'the ages are being equalised' 

Equalisation finished last year - state pension age is now the same for men and women.

mikehughescq

cristobal said:

ilovecats said:

mikehughescq said:

I reported a post on this thread for wholly wrong advice. Why is the post still live and why has the advice not been corrected? 

Being aged 65 is irrelevant to the question. The question is what is your specific pensionable age. There is no national pensionable age at present as the ages are being equalised. Thus the age you might claim AA is different for everyone. 

You can check your personal pensionable age at https://www.gov.uk/state-pension-age

You do love picking out my mistakes. I wonder if another member had posted it would you have taken the same action?

When I wrote that I was under the impression that 65 was pension age. I realised my mistake after the time lapse for edited had expired however people with more knowledge had posted the correct information below so I figured no harm done. 

I apologise that another of my posts has annoyed you.

@mikehughescq - I'm slightly reluctant to post a correction, but I think it's appropriate given your comments about 'wholly wrong advice' and 'why has the advice not been corrected?'

You are wrong to say that 'the ages are being equalised' 

Equalisation finished last year - state pension age is now the same for men and women.

@cristobal. LOL. Technically you are absolutely correct. As of 2018 women can’t take a pension before 65 so in that sense they are equal. However, in the context of this thread the question was about what age a new claim fir PIP ceases to be possible and at present that varies from person to person. So, in my case it would be 67. For my friend it is 66 and so on. 

So yes the original advice was wholly incorrect. It looks like that post has now been removed. 

mikehughescq

@ilovecats with all due respect my aim is not to annoy you or any other poster. You can check back a long way as regards my presence on this site and you will see absolute consistency as regards any scenario where I become aware that wrong and potentially costly advice has been given. It’s never about the person. It’s only about the quality of the advice. If one person repeatedly gives wrong or misleading advice or information and that repeatedly comes to my attention when I’m browsing then yes I will repeatedly correct that and cite sources where appropriate. That may look unfortunate but that’s not my problem whereas wrong advice is very much a problem for many people on here and potentially for Scope themselves. 

Getting pensionable age correct is now absolutely critical as the law around mixed age couples grows more complex by the day and again the consequences are irreversible. 

I certainly have no “love” of correcting yours or anyone else’s mistakes. I’d much rather this forum was administrated in a manner that such occurrences didn’t happen. As I say, it’s not personal. Wrong or misleading advice costs money and in the world of UC those losses can be huge and irreversible. 

As regards the post in question I cannot see any subsequent correction by another poster although of course that could be because said person is on my ignore list. 

I will confess entirely separate concerns as regards your presence here. Again it’s not personal but I am aware that ESA and other DMs use social media against claimants. Scope talk a lot about wanting people to feel safe on this site but seem oblivious to the impact your presence already has on 3 fronts. 

1 - advising what a HCP would do when you’re no longer up to speed on current practice. 

2 - the repeated suggestion that what a HCP would recommend is a correct interpretation of the law, which has led to my having to intervene on one occasion to prevent someone ending their claim when they believed it was hopeless. What HCPs recommend is largely overturned when challenged. 

3 - as on Facebook where ex HCPs and DMs have posted, those posts attract the attention of current DMs who are then able to use discussions against claimants even when accounts are run under pseudonyms. I don’t see how Scope could possibly be confident that your presence here hasn’t attracted similar attention and hasn't or couldn’t have similar negative implications on posters here. People have often posted very specific additional detail in response to some of your answers or further questions.  

Given that they can’t possibly offer such guarantees I think their decision to allow you to post has been ill-thought through indeed. 

Again, I need to emphasise that the above comments are not personal. They’re not about you. They’re about the specific role. The fact it’s an ex-role os neither here nor there. 

cristobal

@mikehughes - once again I'm quite reluctant to post this, as it's nothing to do with the original post, but I feel that it's important.

I value @ilovecats posts although you will see from my own posts that I sometimes disagree with what he/she is saying. I believe it is good to have the view of an ex-assessor - guidelines and case law are all very well but if the assessors do something completely different I'd like to know. That's just my opinion.

I don't agree that your comments 'aren't personal'' and your comment that you have concerns as regards your presence here' just proves that - it is demeaning and disrespectful.

I have thought for a while that you are trying to bully @ilovecats so that he/she stops posting and this seems to be confirmed by your last post.

Your knowledge of the system and the advice you give is very valuable. It doesn't give you the right to treat another poster in the way that you have.

sam12

Am not a bully. I have problems. Just leave me alone. Its me that gets bullied alot it not my style I done nothing wrong on here guess I look someone else to support me I prefer u don't msg me. Others on here helping me any more of ur rubbish msg I report u

sam12

Not me mentioned about all this rubbish somebody else I only asked what replaces at 64 instead of pip I been hassled over this pension thing get a grip anymore I report all this. Am in here for support of the other people I don't really want to talk to u personally 

Sam_Alumni

sam12 said:

Am not a bully. I have problems. Just leave me alone. Its me that gets bullied alot it not my style I done nothing wrong on here guess I look someone else to support me I prefer u don't msg me. Others on here helping me any more of ur rubbish msg I report u

@sam12 This comment wasn't aimed at you

sam12

It was posted to me so it was afraid 

Sam_Alumni

mikehughescq said:

@ilovecats with all due respect my aim is not to annoy you or any other poster. You can check back a long way as regards my presence on this site and you will see absolute consistency as regards any scenario where I become aware that wrong and potentially costly advice has been given. It’s never about the person. It’s only about the quality of the advice. If one person repeatedly gives wrong or misleading advice or information and that repeatedly comes to my attention when I’m browsing then yes I will repeatedly correct that and cite sources where appropriate. That may look unfortunate but that’s not my problem whereas wrong advice is very much a problem for many people on here and potentially for Scope themselves. 

Getting pensionable age correct is now absolutely critical as the law around mixed age couples grows more complex by the day and again the consequences are irreversible. 

I certainly have no “love” of correcting yours or anyone else’s mistakes. I’d much rather this forum was administrated in a manner that such occurrences didn’t happen. As I say, it’s not personal. Wrong or misleading advice costs money and in the world of UC those losses can be huge and irreversible. 

As regards the post in question I cannot see any subsequent correction by another poster although of course that could be because said person is on my ignore list. 

I will confess entirely separate concerns as regards your presence here. Again it’s not personal but I am aware that ESA and other DMs use social media against claimants. Scope talk a lot about wanting people to feel safe on this site but seem oblivious to the impact your presence already has on 3 fronts. 

1 - advising what a HCP would do when you’re no longer up to speed on current practice. 

2 - the repeated suggestion that what a HCP would recommend is a correct interpretation of the law, which has led to my having to intervene on one occasion to prevent someone ending their claim when they believed it was hopeless. What HCPs recommend is largely overturned when challenged. 

3 - as on Facebook where ex HCPs and DMs have posted, those posts attract the attention of current DMs who are then able to use discussions against claimants even when accounts are run under pseudonyms. I don’t see how Scope could possibly be confident that your presence here hasn’t attracted similar attention and hasn't or couldn’t have similar negative implications on posters here. People have often posted very specific additional detail in response to some of your answers or further questions.  

Given that they can’t possibly offer such guarantees I think their decision to allow you to post has been ill-thought through indeed. 

Again, I need to emphasise that the above comments are not personal. They’re not about you. They’re about the specific role. The fact it’s an ex-role os neither here nor there. 

@mikehughescq Please be aware of the tone of your posts. You may have concerns over members, but the community team are overseeing all members and posts. We endeavor to keep the community a safe and friendly place and direct comments such as this don't make for a pleasant experience for all members.

If any members have issues with others, then please use the ignore feature if you cannot treat others with courtesy.

Best wishes, Sam

Chloe_Scope

It's okay @sam12, you haven't done anything wrong

sam12

I know I haven't. This person keeps send me posts which am not interested. I got worrys mum could be deiotrating and on breathing mask scary seeing her paralisis bad enough 

sam12

I only sent harmless joke because my social worker and support worker playing games on the phn so I decided to get them back and bf making me wait so I sent one here just to show u what I did wasn't out to offend anyone at all just wanted to have little joke laugh nothing serious 

Chloe_Scope

We understand @sam12

I really hope it goes okay with your mum on Friday.

mikehughescq

Sam_Scope said:

mikehughescq said:

@ilovecats with all due respect my aim is not to annoy you or any other poster. You can check back a long way as regards my presence on this site and you will see absolute consistency as regards any scenario where I become aware that wrong and potentially costly advice has been given. It’s never about the person. It’s only about the quality of the advice. If one person repeatedly gives wrong or misleading advice or information and that repeatedly comes to my attention when I’m browsing then yes I will repeatedly correct that and cite sources where appropriate. That may look unfortunate but that’s not my problem whereas wrong advice is very much a problem for many people on here and potentially for Scope themselves. 

Getting pensionable age correct is now absolutely critical as the law around mixed age couples grows more complex by the day and again the consequences are irreversible. 

I certainly have no “love” of correcting yours or anyone else’s mistakes. I’d much rather this forum was administrated in a manner that such occurrences didn’t happen. As I say, it’s not personal. Wrong or misleading advice costs money and in the world of UC those losses can be huge and irreversible. 

As regards the post in question I cannot see any subsequent correction by another poster although of course that could be because said person is on my ignore list. 

I will confess entirely separate concerns as regards your presence here. Again it’s not personal but I am aware that ESA and other DMs use social media against claimants. Scope talk a lot about wanting people to feel safe on this site but seem oblivious to the impact your presence already has on 3 fronts. 

1 - advising what a HCP would do when you’re no longer up to speed on current practice. 

2 - the repeated suggestion that what a HCP would recommend is a correct interpretation of the law, which has led to my having to intervene on one occasion to prevent someone ending their claim when they believed it was hopeless. What HCPs recommend is largely overturned when challenged. 

3 - as on Facebook where ex HCPs and DMs have posted, those posts attract the attention of current DMs who are then able to use discussions against claimants even when accounts are run under pseudonyms. I don’t see how Scope could possibly be confident that your presence here hasn’t attracted similar attention and hasn't or couldn’t have similar negative implications on posters here. People have often posted very specific additional detail in response to some of your answers or further questions.  

Given that they can’t possibly offer such guarantees I think their decision to allow you to post has been ill-thought through indeed. 

Again, I need to emphasise that the above comments are not personal. They’re not about you. They’re about the specific role. The fact it’s an ex-role os neither here nor there. 

@mikehughescq Please be aware of the tone of your posts. You may have concerns over members, but the community team are overseeing all members and posts. We endeavor to keep the community a safe and friendly place and direct comments such as this don't make for a pleasant experience for all members.

If any members have issues with others, then please use the ignore feature if you cannot treat others with courtesy.

Best wishes, Sam

With all due respect Sam the inconsistency is breathtaking. I am in moderation and yet the post was published in full. You then come in and issue a warning. For what exactly? If there was a breach then you should have identified it and not published. 

I’m really comfortable with my tone as regards that post having run it past several members and some other people to ensure It was okay. You conveniently forget that my post and report was critical of the post not the poster and that the post was wrong advice. You also fail to note that it was @ilovecats who personalised it and yet I responded by not directing anything personal but explaining what my specific issues were. Not with the poster but with the posts and their consequences for other users. 

Weirdly you don’t appear to have address the comment about direct comments to @ilovecats. That doesn’t look good does it.

Sam_Alumni

Hi @mikehughescq
You are in moderation as you have pointed out, we don't take the decision to do this lightly. You have complained about us not allowing your posts through moderation, I chose to allow this post but to point out to you that you do still need to watch your tone, as it has been explained to you many times that it causes upset to others. 

We have rules and guidelines here on the community and members have to abide by these rules. If you would genuinely rather I be far stricter on which of your posts I choose to allow on the community rather than trying to guide you into more appropriate behaviour then I am happy to do that.

Best wishes
Sam

sam12

Excuse me I done nothing wrong i spoken to. Someone about this they said I done nothing wrong at all personally I don't have to answer to u. I got serious issues goin here. Stop sending me msgs like this for something I not done wrong or u be answer to my bf he lawyer get it pls I only takin to others personally not u I don't wish be treated like the way ur treating me some thing not done 

sam12

Is bully sending me all this msgs her name is Sam if  I not done nothing wrong on here only talkin about my issues what harm is that if she starts on me again seriously I take drastic action against her

Sam_Alumni

Hi @sam12
My name is Sam and I am a Senior Community Officer here at Scope, my comments are not aimed at you. Take a look at the beginning of posts as they have other members names included to show who is talking to who.

Remember this is an open forum and these aren't messages directly to you but a conversation between many members.

sam12

OK I alway thou own privacy area I thort u aims me sorry

braca

Sam12 Do not know the level of your disability but you seem to be quite young and rather than feeling sorry try and involve yourself in the local community, to some people living on benefits is the easy option and carry on through life like this, give yourself a jolt and get out there in the big wide world instead of hiding yourself in disability forums.

braca

@sam12 , Hope you have  found the advice that you require on this site, yourself  and ilovecats have plenty in common and HE/SHE advice should guide you through all this horrible benefits system and sort you out for higher awards that she has advised others like Poppy123456 who probably knows the system inside out having taken on board what to expect from F2F assesments  having had years and years of experience, unlike myself who has managed to work all my days until illness caught up with me at aged 61 having left shool  on the Friday at 15 years old and started work the following Monday and never ever thought that one day illness would prevent me from working, and fast forward to now  employer telling me we have to pay you off with ill health and wife having tests done for Dementia is it any wonder that some of us older generation through in the towel after having worked all our lives and then having to go through this degrading system just to keep our heads above water and try and see out our lives with some dignity.