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Pip mandatory reconsideration

jannybjannyb Member Posts: 39 Courageous
Evening everyone 🙂 this is my pip journey so far

Rang to start claim January 25th
Dwp signed for  form february 19th
They found it march 8th
Assessment april 5th
Dwp received assessors report 23rd april
Letter dated 9th may refusing pip
Rang to start mandatory 17th may
Sent mandatory 26th may
Mandatory signed for by them 28th may
Mandatory logged into system 3rd june
Dwp sent queries to assesor & received them back 9th august
Nearly 11 weeks since mandatory started 

They said it could be at least another 4 weeks and they wouldn't tell me what it was they queried 😝. One minute I'm convinced its going to be good news,the next minute i know its failed. My head is frazzled,( i just wanted a bit of a rant )

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  • worried33worried33 Member Posts: 399 Pioneering
    Let it out, I am sorry for your experience in this and I hope good news comes from the MR, if it does not, you have the option of appealing to a tribunal which has a good chance of success if you attend.
  • tinka1992tinka1992 Member Posts: 97 Connected
    Hi I logged my mr about 4th June still waiting now there huge back log from what iv heard I phoned Monday they said it's with a case manger gonna ring today 
  • jannybjannyb Member Posts: 39 Courageous
    worried33 said:
    Let it out, I am sorry for your experience in this and I hope good news comes from the MR, if it does not, you have the option of appealing to a tribunal which has a good chance of success if you attend.
    Hiya 😊 yes I'll be appealing ,it's just a shame that it takes so long to get to that part . Thank you 
  • jannybjannyb Member Posts: 39 Courageous
    tinka1992 said:
    Hi I logged my mr about 4th June still waiting now there huge back log from what iv heard I phoned Monday they said it's with a case manger gonna ring today 
    Hiya tinka..they told me 2 weeks ago mine was with the case manager then last week they emailed the assessment centre. Hope you get some good news today 🤗
  • tinka1992tinka1992 Member Posts: 97 Connected
    What do they email assessment centre for I hope I get some good news I only scored 4points but I sent in everything one thing she said is that I only had mental health problems for 3months I have had it since 2008 and been under health serves 
  • jannybjannyb Member Posts: 39 Courageous
    tinka1992 said:
    What do they email assessment centre for I hope I get some good news I only scored 4points but I sent in everything one thing she said is that I only had mental health problems for 3months I have had it since 2008 and been under health serves 
    All pip would tell me that there was a couple things they wanted to ask assessment centre about,they wouldn't tell me what exactly so its just wait and see. I received zero and and the assessor said all kinds of things like i went alone, even tho she saw my daughter there. That i travel to see support worker then walk 100 metres ,but she comes to my house. Whole thing was full of contradictions and lies .
    I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!
  • tinka1992tinka1992 Member Posts: 97 Connected
    Same hear phoned up they have done the same thing send mine over to assessment centre seems like I still score same points as she said it was sent yesterday for them to look over and then sent back today for case manger even tho advisor who assessment lied they still.letting her check my information disgusting system 
  • jannybjannyb Member Posts: 39 Courageous
    Me personally i don't see the point in pip asking the assesser anything as they'll just go with what they originally said. Just something to drag it out even longer
  • tinka1992tinka1992 Member Posts: 97 Connected
    I agree I'm assuming they sent it back to her as woman on phone said it was sent back to assessment centre so should know next week the outcome wont hold my breath 
  • jannybjannyb Member Posts: 39 Courageous
    Yeah i cant imagine my assesser being like..oh yeah she said actually have someone with her,my bad lol. And how much can they remember from 4 months ago 🙄. Me and you are both in the same boat then! With both the same rough estimate when they'll decide. Have you tried your mp? Ive just emailed mine to see if they can hurry them along
  • tinka1992tinka1992 Member Posts: 97 Connected
    I havent but I think I may but mite be to late now 
  • jannybjannyb Member Posts: 39 Courageous
    You might not be..they say next week but it could turn into 2 or 3. Always worth a try
  • tinka1992tinka1992 Member Posts: 97 Connected
    I called my mp he is gonna chance it for me 
  • jannybjannyb Member Posts: 39 Courageous
    Yay good luck..i dont like ringing so it'll be a while before i get an email back lol
  • ThreesticksThreesticks Member Posts: 128 Pioneering
    They, DWP, don't mind you ranting on a website. In fact that's what they want, as long as you do rant to anyone else. Like, your MP or, god forbid, the Government (DWP). Here's just a sample of what you're in for.

    It would seem most disabled people (except the ones who are bedridden or wheelchair bound) will be offered the lower payment or no payment. It's a battle from people like DWP and this Government (who took an oath to protect the poorest in society). The poorest are usually disabled people, who can't work because of their disability. There is a glaring in your face agenda, to demonize disabled people. And, the DWP tasked to reject 80% of claims. Facts all in the public domain. The private, for profit, companies received millions in payment to do these assessments.

    It starts as soon as you fill in the million-page app form. Asking the same question in different formats. Then the humiliation of the assessment. Which, after an approximate hour, this person, who you've had no other contact with, knows more than Surgeons and Dr's combined, over your lifetime. But hey they've spent an hour with you and now you inside out, right. Then you can beg for an MR (Mandatory reconsideration), you'll be told NO and just regurgitate what the person said who met you for an hour, whose company get paid handsomely for your attendance.

    Then, if you last that long, maybe a year later(still on the lowest  payment or no payment) you get to beg in a Court room (they have a nice word for it, tribunal) . You'll be facing, a Judge,Dr and if they can be bothered to turn up, a member from the DWP. With cap in hand, if your lucky, someone who tells you they know what they are doing in a courtroom, to defend your application. You get to plead your case, just like a criminal.

    Best of luck.

    If you fight, you won't always win. But if you don't fight you will always always lose.
  • jannybjannyb Member Posts: 39 Courageous
    Hiya threesticks.. yeah ive had tribunal before, I'm in it for the long haul lol
  • ThreesticksThreesticks Member Posts: 128 Pioneering
    Nice one, best of luck. I'm still waiting to be Summoned, ;)
    If you fight, you won't always win. But if you don't fight you will always always lose.
  • jannybjannyb Member Posts: 39 Courageous
    Mandatory came back no.. but they changed from 0 points to 4 . Is there anything i can do please to gently nudge another 4 points out the them ,im not sure i can stand another tribunal . Cheeers 🤗
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Unfortunately, your next step is to request the Tribunal within 1 month of the date of the decision.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • jannybjannyb Member Posts: 39 Courageous
    Ok thank you poppy 😊
  • jannybjannyb Member Posts: 39 Courageous
    Another question sorry. If i do the appeal online just to get the ball rolling can i send my further proof thru the post at a later time and is the actuall tribunal still in person? Thank you 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Yes, you can send further evidence later as long as it arrives within 10 days of the hearing date. With huge backlogs across most of the country being a long as 1 year then you'll have plenty of time.

    Yes, it's still to appear in person and this will give you the best chance of a decision in your favour.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • jannybjannyb Member Posts: 39 Courageous
    Thank you! Do i need to send the courts everything that i gave the dwp or will they supply it to them ? If they supply it do i just need to concentrate on the descriptors i disagree with and examples why ? Thank you 😊
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    You're welcome. You don't need to send anything you've already sent. DWP will send them everything,, including the PIP forms, assessment report, evidence etc etc and you'll receive that in your "bundle" when you receive this you'll need to go through it to check everything is there.

    Yes, just concentrate on your reasons why the descriptors apply to you but you'll have plenty of time for that. For now, just concentrate on requesting the Tribunal. Good luck.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • jannybjannyb Member Posts: 39 Courageous
    Oh brilliant thank you..does that apply to doing it online too? So would i just type something like i am putting in a request for a tribunal and further evidence of descriptors and other proof will be collected and sent at a later date.

    Is that all I'd have to put for now? Thank you 
  • tinka1992tinka1992 Member Posts: 97 Connected
    Sorry to hear this I havent heard anything yet gonna ring today 
  • jannybjannyb Member Posts: 39 Courageous
    Thanx tink 😊 good luck !
  • tinka1992tinka1992 Member Posts: 97 Connected
    Thanks I will need it did u call today to get your points 
  • tinka1992tinka1992 Member Posts: 97 Connected
    Am thinking should I call now as it's been over 10weeks 
  • jannybjannyb Member Posts: 39 Courageous
    No they sent a letter ..it was zero points then they spoke to assessor and gave me 4 🙄
  • jannybjannyb Member Posts: 39 Courageous
    You're welcome. You don't need to send anything you've already sent. DWP will send them everything,, including the PIP forms, assessment report, evidence etc etc and you'll receive that in your "bundle" when you receive this you'll need to go through it to check everything is there.

    Yes, just concentrate on your reasons why the descriptors apply to you but you'll have plenty of time for that. For now, just concentrate on requesting the Tribunal. Good luck.
    jannyb said:
    Oh brilliant thank you..does that apply to doing it online too? So would i just type something like i am putting in a request for a tribunal and further evidence of descriptors and other proof will be collected and sent at a later date.

    Is that all I'd have to put for now? Thank you 
    Sorry poppy 🙊 extra evidence sent after..would that be posted or do i go back online and send it?
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    All you have to put for now is the reasons why you're requesting the Tribunal. Any extra evidence at a later date will need to be posted to HMCTS. Once they accept your appeal you'll have a reference number which you'll need to use what sending evidence or contacting them.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • tinka1992tinka1992 Member Posts: 97 Connected
    Can anybody advice me on this please so I'm at mr stage waiting 10weeks they asked assures view it came bk Friday case manger wasnt happy as I have mental health badly and proof of 4 different medcail people who have sent in well today I have phoned they will have answer for me on Wednesday but the man on phone said case manger wasnt happy with accores report said it looks like u have more points on it but cant tell me witch ones and he said looks like daily living but no morality I feel sick as worrying 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    tinka1992 said:
    Can anybody advice me on this please so I'm at mr stage waiting 10weeks they asked assures view it came bk Friday case manger wasnt happy as I have mental health badly and proof of 4 different medcail people who have sent in well today I have phoned they will have answer for me on Wednesday but the man on phone said case manger wasnt happy with accores report said it looks like u have more points on it but cant tell me witch ones and he said looks like daily living but no morality I feel sick as worrying 
    Hi,

    If a decision had been made on the MR then you would have been told what the decision was on the phone when you rang. It's wrong of the adviser to say anything to you because the only person that can make the decision is the decision maker.

    It's impossible to speculate anything at this point and all you can do is wait for the decision to be made. Ring again on Wednesday and hopefully they'll be able to tell you. Good luck.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • tinka1992tinka1992 Member Posts: 97 Connected
    Ok thank u I will call up Wednesday to see if a decision has been made 
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