DWP Law unto itself, and the in action of SCOPE .Part two.

Hi all this is part two, part one was locked by Adrian. Link to the OP https://community.scope.org.uk/discussion/62947/dwp-law-unto-itself-and-the-in-action-of-scope
Hi John, thought I'd respond on the forum for all to read. Firstly, I'm not as you say, frustrated or angry at the situation, you know what they say, "don't get angry get even". Something has not been understood. Either, you haven't read the full post, or you're sidestepping the question. So I can only draw my own conclusions why you haven't answer my questions.
The question is, why hasn't Scope, with its massive profits £95 million and resources, taken on the DWP (GOV), on behalf of its members ? Or is Scope just using lip-service to make those massive profits, out of the pain and suffering of others, much like the DWP(GOV). Headlines like this don't help.
Scope also professes,
Scope is a national disability charity that campaigns to challenge and change negative attitudes about disability and provides direct services...
I don't see much campaigning towards the DWP (GOV), I apologize in advance, if you could point me in the direction of any campaigns Scope has had/ongoing with the DWP (GOV), I'd love to read them.
I'm pretty sure this post will get closed PDQ as well, but some may just get to read it before it does. What's my beef ? Let's get to it,
All our lives the masses have been lied to by big Corporations, who make massive profits, The Government and countless others. When it's time to pay us back what we've paid in, they don't want to pay us back. So you see when Scope make claims like this,
- disabled people living the life they choose, and
- having financial security.
HI
have been following your post on the community and wanted to take the opportunity to respond to you in person. On Friday Adrian posted the following statement in response:
‘We know many disabled people are rightly angry at the injustice they experience through the benefits system. We guard our independence carefully so we can challenge damaging policy. In recent meetings with government ministers we have been vocal about our concerns about unfair and stressful benefit assessments, sanctions and the rollout of Universal Credit. Scope is calling for radical reform of benefits tests and an end to sanctions, because we believe these things are essential to get equality for disabled people.’
I am satisfied that we have offered a fair and open response to you. Obviously I understand your frustration and anger at the situation, but we feel we are approaching the injustice disabled people face in the best possible way to bring about positive change.
I do hope you will continue to be an active member of the community, please do continue to post about the challenges disabled people face, but I’d ask you do this in a way which is respectful of others. If in doubt please refer to our community guidelines.
Kind regards,
John
John McLachlan
Director of Customer Strategy and Experience
Scope
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- disabled people living the life they choose, and
- having financial security.
And, many other such claims. If, unlike me, you know there are campaigns taking on the DWP(GOV) I'm not aware of by Scope, please point in that direction, so I may read about it, thanks.As you enjoying get the truth out lets do so
Your claim that 125,000 suicides as a result of the DWP and no one can prove you wrong. DWP may not collect the data but it is collected by the ONS and reported by the Samaritans, and your figures do not add up. Strange that you moan about corrupt politicians but decided to use the same tactics as Iain Duncon Smith when he was in charge of the DWP.
I see you have done it again by repeating that Scopes profits were £95 million, no they were not, huge difference between income and profit. Small hint, keep repeating a lie does not make it true, even if like Iain Duncon Smith and yourself think it does.
I won't wish you good luck in hitting Scope's income as you have claimed:
'I'm sure I will get banned when I'm done. It will hit their pocket, and they won't want that. I feel for the good people, who volunteer and are not aware of the massive corruption that is going on in the UK and alleged, not for profit charities, who are making massive profits.'
Actually I feel sorry for the members and volunteers who are and have been helped by scope and some of whom tried to help you when you first joined and you are trying to hurt now because your little bubble has been burst. It is not Scope's, or its members fault that despite 9 years of different coverage in press, online and on tv about what was going on you had your head stuck in the sand until it affected you.
As an individual I stood alone.
As a member of a group I did things.
As part of a community I helped to create change!
So Scope didn't claim they made £95 million profit, you did. Interesting you could not resist repeating the lie before admitting the truth.
Then please give the source of these so called politicians saying how many suicides there were. You keep challenging others so what is the big issue with you doing the same.
What real question? That they don't use their huge non existent profits to take the government to court? Please show where in their governing document that this is part of their purpose. They are not a corporation they are a charity, and like a few big charities they do have a large income and subject to different scrutiny and rules.
Oh, so you want to hit Scopes' income but think this will not hurt those they support and help.
You keep saying the truth will out, which truth yours?
As an individual I stood alone.
As a member of a group I did things.
As part of a community I helped to create change!
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