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PIP tribunal, what will happen?

scouser77scouser77 Member Posts: 24 Listener
edited April 2020 in PIP, DLA and AA
I am due a phone call on the 22/04/2020 from the courts about mu pip appeal . I have had it refused and I put it to tribunal im nervous about this because I have been getting help for my pip from the cab and my health cares . How should I aproch this .very worried and scared im will make a mess of this on my own .can anybody offer support as to what to do or say . I have a file with ovet 200 pages and more from my doctor health care team james place and other health people . But I am not sure what will hapoen pls help 


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  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    edited April 2020
    Hello @scouser1977    Pleased to meet you.

    Thank you for joining and sharing.

    Please we have plenty of advice on appeals on our website.

    Please can I just say 200 pages of health problems and issues are too much.

    No assessor or health professional would read any of that length.

    Needs to be specific and clear precise information around the descriptors.

    Just being honest open and how each descriptor effects you giving examples.

    Of every day incidents tasks and how you cope.

    Please if you have an health worker or support worker should ask them to explain to you more they should be advising you.

    Part of their role. 

    CAB should be doing the same offering information and advice.

    Please if I can help more, please ask.

    Please wish you well for a positive outcome.

    Please take care and keep safe.

    @thespiceman



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  • scouser77scouser77 Member Posts: 24 Listener
    Hi spiceman 

    My 200 page is from my past dla/pip with when I had it and when I hot refused it .the care team are great and very helpful but hands are tied . The CAB have done a report about 4 page's long with my health and metal health . I am just worried they might start asking questions I cant answer . The cab team have said only answer to a qustion nothing else . I suffer high low moods which last days .just worried ill get pushed out of my zone .and go into a bad place I have wirked hard to battle snd have scars from .not looking forward to the phone call its 3 dats away snd I am scared 
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,277 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @scouser77 - Welcome to the community, & thank you for joining. I know it's way easier said than done, but try not to worry. Tribunals will be stressful, but you can do this. You will just be asked questions about how your disability affects you, as my friend thespiceman has said.
    Please just take your time in answering, & try to give a couple of examples of the difficulties you faced, at the time of your assessment, to illustrate how your disability affects your daily life, & mobility if this is also problematic.
    They won't ask questions you can't answer, they just need to know the impact your disability has in your everyday life.
    If you don't understand any question, just ask them to repeat it, or ask it another way.
    Phone tribunals seem to be going well, with more people having a successful outcome recently!
    It also sounds good that the CAB have written a report on your behalf.
    Be yourself, be honest, & just try to get across how disabling your problems are.
    Good luck, & please let us all know how it goes. :)

  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello  @scouser1977    Thank you for reply. I have mental health anxiety and depression over along period of time.

    I have knowledge experience of my issues and problems pass these on to other members as in my capacity in the role I do.

    Understand the problems and issues. I do know that if the mental health teams should be advising you talking to you.

    You should be talking to them about everything.

    One other use and should be using anything they inform educate and learn from.

    This includes coping methods, strategies looking at sleep, medications, diet and nutrition.

    Meditation deep breathing and relaxation techniques.

    If there not doing this, the whole ideas of mental health care and support is maintain your condition.

    Cope on your own make your own decisions .

    If you as my friend @chiarieds added sensible practical advice you be fine.

    On relevant point mental health is an ongoing situation constantly.

    Knowledge education the key changing support going and being referred to different support and charities associations.

    If you think anything not helping or not be listened to have the right to complain but also find other sources.

    I had my issues since early late teens now middle fifties.

    Had alcoholism for thirty of those now clean thirteen years as did had anxiety with any of that bought of depression low mood and much more physical.

    Having a disability as well. So first used Councils services not good but used charities all of these and may more over a thirty plus maybe longer period.

    Mental health is a serious condition but you can live with it learning education hence the  below on my posts.

    Given opportunities find knowledge and volunteer for courses to improve help you and stimulate the energy  you to cope.

    I used and still do looking for courses ongoing many on line.

    Please if you need to think of using other charities these the three I used.

    https://www.richmondfellowship.org.uk

    https://www.mind.org.uk

    https://www.rethink.org

    Have floating support as mentioned welfare, health and any thing else you may wished to know.

    Must add al support workers are long hours work hard do not run your life for you but have to tell them any issues or problems.

    If you do not then the onus is your self that might cause problems for yourself relapse or being ill.

    Responsibility  on you to look after yourself not support workers there role to pass on inform and advise.

    If not caring for yourself any issues need to tell them and they might instil other avenues of support.

    Must ask if you have support team offering text email or SKYPE then fine, if not then you need to ask .

    I have a laptop from some charities they give you one.

    Email and text all the time can do this, as my friend @chiarieds says.

    Wish you well positive outcome. Calming music some cold water good night sleep good food always.

    Breakfast Porridge Eggs need to be energised.

    Any problems or issues happy to help just tag my name in.

    Please take care contact me after wards see if you wish to talk through can be helpful eases mind.

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  • scouser77scouser77 Member Posts: 24 Listener
    Hi thank you all for your support and advice I will report back with the news how the phone call went . Wish I had my team eith me to be honest anxiety is creeping up and im not looking forward to the call 
     with the court .. I will try and post the outcome .good or bad .once again thank you .
  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello @scouser77   Please can you send them a text or a email just a thought.


    One bits of advice regarding anxiety my top tips these are do work.


    1.  Avoid all caffeine Coffee, Tea, Cola, Energy Drinks, Chocolate and avoid smoking alcohol.

    All are stimulants more your anxious more you consume making conditions worse.

    2.  Be constructive in your day make and do tasks house work, kitchen duties washing up use music and radio to help through the day.

    3. I listen to Motown Soul Northern Soul . Jazz Swing all up beat music helps.

    4. Do work out exercise to any tasks shake that booty and dance move around helps.

    5.  Make simple meals and plan if you have a freezer make take out favourites we all love.

    Chilli, Bolognese, Curry can not cook time to learn helps you take mind off problems.

    Look on line plenty of recipes look around websites my recipes lots on here.

    6.  Look at puzzles word games no TV unless it is stimulating interesting no media or news.

    7.  Makes depression worse feel good films programmes, comedies whatever as long helps you.

    8.  Look at volunteering on line plenty of opportunities here .

    Always need members like me the Community Champions ask the team.

    9.  Helps you  Email the team.

     [email protected]

    10 Be aware of new interests gardening not only good simple ones herb gardens.

    Reading and using time wisley.

    If you sit and fester as my support worker implied goes around in your head and becomes ear worms.

    Effects diet stomach bowels and anything else trust me have that.

    So a few aspects of the anxiety coping methods.

    One other take time out meditation yoga relaxation .

    Please take care one other to reassure you most tribunals and assessments are successful.

    We never hear them in all my time as a claiming benefits had been since Eighties. Then again Nineties had good ones not many bad ones, more than ever.

    Positivity and lots of confidence and may I add still have to continue applying even at my age so have to be lkie this.

    What helps me was the support teams, if this means costing you there expenses used them.

    @thespiceman







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  • scouser77scouser77 Member Posts: 24 Listener
    Hi team just a up date had my phone call regarding my pip appeal . Cant lie it was tough hard I felt like a Criminal was expecting qustion about my health on the day and how things were on my abasement interview .not a qustion was all in this month or you put this down why now but you could then went back to 2017 and 2014 .come away after the call upset and deflated anxious and hurt .. Was not easy trying to explain how things are . So I wait for the letter to come .i will post what happeens .
    But it was Hard really hard wouldn't like to do this again felt all wrong not being able to look at some 1 and show the difficulty I am having .

    Stay safe and protect the NHS ..
  • scouser77scouser77 Member Posts: 24 Listener
    Hi 
    Got my drwadex letter today .bad news the jugde and other 2 decided to award 0 for both daily and mobility .this has and is problem now .i can't it round my head . The chat was 99% about my job I did 3 years ago and nothing about my face to face .the Doctor was asking when you worked or did this then what hapoend I told him .reading post after post was feeling positive .not now feel let down .good luck to anybody having a hearing over the phone ..
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,665 Disability Gamechanger
    Sorry to hear that. 

    Ask for a statement of reasons/record of proceedings. There should be a recording available too although you may have to push on that. 

    There’s a consistent message I push on this forum. The HCP report may determine the initial decision but the quality is so poor in so many that it will rarely influence or be the focus of an appeal hearing. The key thing is always to know what points you score and why and to have a couple of examples available per activity.
  • scouser77scouser77 Member Posts: 24 Listener
    Thanks for thr reply 🤛found out today after reading a post from the minster of health he wrote on the 23/4/2020 .
    Having a phone call I was aloud a person to be with me for support . My partner is my rock but I got told by the Court I had to be on my own .
    If I knew that then I would of been less scared and anxious .think ill be calling the Court to ask why I got told this . 
    I didn't score any point at the face to face or by the court . Whole thing was basis and wrong .
    Sorry but still very up set and having trouble gettig my head round it 
  • Chloe_ScopeChloe_Scope Scope Posts: 10,653 Disability Gamechanger
    Really sorry to hear this @scouser! This must have been a lot to get your head around. How are you today?
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  • scouser77scouser77 Member Posts: 24 Listener
    Hi Cloe .
    Gutted to tell the. Truth you think having all the reports from doctors .care team . Hospital report would go in your favour NOPE !! Felt I was robbed they told me I had to be alone during the call .now I find out thats not true . Getting a letter of the Court saying they agree with the face to facr is not very nice . They both gave me a score of 0 for both .today like yesterday and days weeks month's before that im in pain and lowmood . Never mind you cant see that over the phone .pip was going to help me try and have a little bit of a life . 
    The whole call was horrible snd very unpleasant felt like I was a criminal standing trail .. Dont wish it on anybody .
    That's how I feel daily sore low mood . No intereste's in me or anything . Wish I was dead dometimes
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,665 Disability Gamechanger
    scouser77 said:
    Thanks for thr reply 🤛found out today after reading a post from the minster of health he wrote on the 23/4/2020 .
    Having a phone call I was aloud a person to be with me for support . My partner is my rock but I got told by the Court I had to be on my own .
    If I knew that then I would of been less scared and anxious .think ill be calling the Court to ask why I got told this . 
    I didn't score any point at the face to face or by the court . Whole thing was basis and wrong .
    Sorry but still very up set and having trouble gettig my head round it 
    You are certainly allowed a representative but the issue at present is that the technology available doesn’t always allow enough people on the call. There’s nothing you can do about it now bar ask for a statement of reasons/record of proceedings then get some advice. One of the problems you have is that if you have an issue then it’s up to you raise it on the day.
    scouser77 said:
    Hi Cloe .
    Gutted to tell the. Truth you think having all the reports from doctors .care team . Hospital report would go in your favour NOPE !! Felt I was robbed they told me I had to be alone during the call .now I find out thats not true . Getting a letter of the Court saying they agree with the face to facr is not very nice . They both gave me a score of 0 for both .today like yesterday and days weeks month's before that im in pain and lowmood . Never mind you cant see that over the phone .pip was going to help me try and have a little bit of a life . 
    The whole call was horrible snd very unpleasant felt like I was a criminal standing trail .. Dont wish it on anybody .
    That's how I feel daily sore low mood . No intereste's in me or anything . Wish I was dead dometimes
    It really depends on what the letters said. If they just reinforce what your health conditions are; your meds; symptoms etc. then they’re of limited use. PIP focuses on whether your conditions reliably allow you to perform the points scoring activities and not on what conditions you have. 

    Tribunals which score you nil on both components can of course get the law hopelessly wrong but that’s very unusual. It’s more usual for there to be an argument over some points or some activities. For this reason you need to request the SOR/ROP abd het advice.


  • scouser77scouser77 Member Posts: 24 Listener
    What is SOR/ROP ABD HET advice .?? 
    They call didnt ask about my face to face .were more voncerd about my past working life not my life and needs now ? . 
    Dwp win dont have the engry to fight 

  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,277 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @scouser77  '......you need to request the SOR (Statement of Reasons)/ROP (Record of Proceedings) and get advice.'
  • scouser77scouser77 Member Posts: 24 Listener
    Im giving up Im not goo on the phone and not cleaver cab help me but im not aruging with the judge. In case I sond daft 
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,665 Disability Gamechanger
    You’ve literally nothing to lose but 15 minutes; a stamp and an envelope to request the SOR/ROP. That request buys you time to seek a rep who can identify errors of law. At no point are you arguing directly with a judge. It’s all form filling and there are plenty of people out there who will do it for free.
  • scouser77scouser77 Member Posts: 24 Listener
    Might do it just need to get the stamp and make a phone call ..then take it from there . Let you all no what happens 
  • ali901ali901 Member Posts: 15 Listener
    Hi mate sorry to hear about your case I've got mine next month? What did they say in your telephone interview 
  • scouser77scouser77 Member Posts: 24 Listener
    Hi oli .
    My call was asking stuff like .when you worked o. The docks in 2017 how did you mange with your pain .? You have a dog how far can you walk with it . When you get a bath or go the toilet . Loads of question's about my pass .asked 2 questions about the face to face . Which I said didn't happen and .i had judge,& 2 doctor's in on the call I felt ashamed when the call was over .still feel angry upset .all I can say is make sure you have somebody with you to help.  I hope you win buddy and best of luck with everything .

    Scouser77
  • jobarlowjobarlow Member Posts: 2 Listener
    hi, i am new and felt.i have to comment, I had a pip tribunal today via phone, this is ongoing since 2017 I have had to go to upper tribunal courts long process and they sent it back to first tier who I spoke today, 3 hours on phone and I feel in bits emotionally and physically drained. I feel I have been chewed up and spat out. Now I have to wait for decision in post... thought this would be easier especially as upper tribunal agreed the first tier had error in law and the dwp agreed they errored in law. Now I feel I was on trial. The upper tribunal said that I should of been awarded but to let first tier rehear the case. I am worried sick I thought once upper gave directions it would be straight forward not 3 hours of grilling. Anyone else been in same situation. Thanks
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,665 Disability Gamechanger
    jobarlow said:
    hi, i am new and felt.i have to comment, I had a pip tribunal today via phone, this is ongoing since 2017 I have had to go to upper tribunal courts long process and they sent it back to first tier who I spoke today, 3 hours on phone and I feel in bits emotionally and physically drained. I feel I have been chewed up and spat out. Now I have to wait for decision in post... thought this would be easier especially as upper tribunal agreed the first tier had error in law and the dwp agreed they errored in law. Now I feel I was on trial. The upper tribunal said that I should of been awarded but to let first tier rehear the case. I am worried sick I thought once upper gave directions it would be straight forward not 3 hours of grilling. Anyone else been in same situation. Thanks
    Just to reassure you to some extent, when the UT send your case back to FTT because of an error of law what you’re getting is a complete rehearing so you’re going in with a nil award once again. The UT can give directions but the FTT don’t have to follow them. I’m not convinced the UT will have said you ought to have been awarded. If that was right they’d have replaced the original FTT decision with one of their own. 

    When these things get back to FTT though they are anxious to not see it go back to UT so they will tend to take their time. If your case involved an error of law like insufficient findings of fact they will also go out of their way to get as much evidence as possible before making new findings of fact. From your perspective it can be exhausting but it’s very much not you that’s in trial so much as the evidence in the appeal bundle. 
  • jobarlowjobarlow Member Posts: 2 Listener
    jobarlow said:
    hi, i am new and felt.i have to comment, I had a pip tribunal today via phone, this is ongoing since 2017 I have had to go to upper tribunal courts long process and they sent it back to first tier who I spoke today, 3 hours on phone and I feel in bits emotionally and physically drained. I feel I have been chewed up and spat out. Now I have to wait for decision in post... thought this would be easier especially as upper tribunal agreed the first tier had error in law and the dwp agreed they errored in law. Now I feel I was on trial. The upper tribunal said that I should of been awarded but to let first tier rehear the case. I am worried sick I thought once upper gave directions it would be straight forward not 3 hours of grilling. Anyone else been in same situation. Thanks
    Just to reassure you to some extent, when the UT send your case back to FTT because of an error of law what you’re getting is a complete rehearing so you’re going in with a nil award once again. The UT can give directions but the FTT don’t have to follow them. I’m not convinced the UT will have said you ought to have been awarded. If that was right they’d have replaced the original FTT decision with one of their own. 

    When these things get back to FTT though they are anxious to not see it go back to UT so they will tend to take their time. If your case involved an error of law like insufficient findings of fact they will also go out of their way to get as much evidence as possible before making new findings of fact. From your perspective it can be exhausting but it’s very much not you that’s in trial so much as the evidence in the appeal bundle. 
    The upper tribunal gave directions of what they did not take in consideration and questioned why did I have dla then not pip in simple terms. Also they said upper tribunal don't normally over turn they normally send back for a new hearing I have read somewhere on one of these sites. They did not add any more info to the bundle and the dwp didnt attend the hearing. I cant believe it took 3 hours to do the hearing yeah i was drained its been a long process and I just want this over I can understand why people don't appeal. 
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    Hi how long does it take to have ur pip tribunal decision by letter it for my miss
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,562 Disability Gamechanger
    After the phone hearing shouldn't take more than a few days
    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    My gf wants to know wat are the success rate of people winning pip tribunal and it was on monday 
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,665 Disability Gamechanger
    Approx. 76% but in reality around 10 to 20% higher anecdotally at present. 
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    Gf  still have heard of any thing yet her depression is high 
    What is the success rate she had her phone tribunal monday how much long does she have to wait 
  • Lou67Lou67 Member Posts: 894 Pioneering
    Hi @kim123  I had an appeal in November past. I got my letter 2 days later.

    Hope it comes soon and good luck with it.
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    Ok she had hers on monday her depression really bad and she has been waiting 2 years to sort this out 
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    Jw wat are the success rate in the last two years of winning the pip tribunal asking for my gf 
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    Lou67 said:
    Hi @kim123  I had an appeal in November past. I got my letter 2 days later.

    Hope it comes soon and good luck with it.
    Did u win
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    My gf is so stressed out about her tribunal decision her depression is bad she had her tribunal telephone monday just gone we still haven't heard anything back yet does that mean she lost it 
  • Lou67Lou67 Member Posts: 894 Pioneering
    Hi @kim123   I had already got enhanced mobility before appeal, then after appeal I was awarded standard daily living.

    It can take a few weeks for your letter to arrive.
  • calcotticalcotti Member Posts: 2,280 Pioneering
    kim123 said:..we still haven't heard anything back yet does that mean she lost it 
    No. It just means you haven’t received the decision.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    Ok they told her that the letter be with her within a week 
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    calcotti said:
    kim123 said:..we still haven't heard anything back yet does that mean she lost it 
    No. It just means you haven’t received the decision.
    They said I would have a letter within this week that was monday I had the tribunal telephone 
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    kim123 said:
    calcotti said:
    kim123 said:..we still haven't heard anything back yet does that mean she lost it 
    No. It just means you haven’t received the decision.
    They said I would have a letter within this week that was monday I had the tribunal telephone 
    And it's not just that she been waiting scine 2019 for her pip its stressed her out a lot her depression is bad hopefully it comes tomorrow and its gd news 
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Testing team Posts: 8,008

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    I hope the letter arrives with you and her soon @kim123
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  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    We was hoping to get today 
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    Hey guy she still haven't received her letter yet she so stressing out she was told within a week she get that was monday she got told that does that mean she mite get it Saturday 
  • calcotticalcotti Member Posts: 2,280 Pioneering
    Nobody knows when it was issued or how long it will take in the post. It might arrive on Saturday but it might not. 
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    I understand that's but they told her within a week so it mite Saturday now she stressing  out and her depression bad she been waiting scine 2019 to get this back 
  • scouser77scouser77 Member Posts: 24 Listener
    Please take into account the post has a lot of work with ppl being of with covid or are shielding . If you get your letter saturday you might not gey your pay for a few more days .i hope it is better news than I got .good look but just hold tight for the letter ..🤦🤦🤦
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    Kk I she got a gd chance she had her support  work with her 
  • scouser77scouser77 Member Posts: 24 Listener
    Not sure I had notes and letters and doctor report's but the judge and 2 doctor's agreed with the face to face report . Im now starting all over again with the help of yhe CAB my mental health team and my GP . Who is going to write a full history report .

    But good luck for your gf . I hope she gets what right for her and soon going this far is very hard I really understand ..best wish 
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    scouser77 said:
    Not sure I had notes and letters and doctor report's but the judge and 2 doctor's agreed with the face to face report . Im now starting all over again with the help of yhe CAB my mental health team and my GP . Who is going to write a full history report .

    But good luck for your gf . I hope she gets what right for her and soon going this far is very hard I really understand ..best wish 
    Well everyone's different and they dont all go the same way ? So cant really say not sure really other people is winning with different things and notes and help and all I'm sure she will get it 
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    scouser77 said:
    Not sure I had notes and letters and doctor report's but the judge and 2 doctor's agreed with the face to face report . Im now starting all over again with the help of yhe CAB my mental health team and my GP . Who is going to write a full history report .

    But good luck for your gf . I hope she gets what right for her and soon going this far is very hard I really understand ..best wish 
    That's all I'm saying is that not everybody is the same she note and letters that's all I'm saying is not everybody is the same 
  • laurapeachlaurapeach Member Posts: 103 Pioneering
    Give it another week or two, not having a decision letter doesn't mean she won't get it. I had my Tribunal in December and it took just over a week to get my decision letter.
    Mum of one, I have M.E/CFS, POTS, Central Sensitization Syndrome and Joint Hypermobility Syndrome.
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    Give it another week or two, not having a decision letter doesn't mean she won't get it. I had my Tribunal in December and it took just over a week to get my decision letter.
    They said it with her within a week so prob Saturday and did u win it 
  • laurapeachlaurapeach Member Posts: 103 Pioneering
    It may not be though because of the amount of mail going through royal mail at the moment. And yes I won :) 
    Mum of one, I have M.E/CFS, POTS, Central Sensitization Syndrome and Joint Hypermobility Syndrome.
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    It may not be though because of the amount of mail going through royal mail at the moment. And yes I won :) 
    Gdgd
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    Fingers cross my gf decision letter comes today and she wins it 
  • Ross_ScopeRoss_Scope Posts: 4,258

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    kim123 said:
    Fingers cross my gf decision letter comes today and she wins it 
    Yes, fingers crossed :) 
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  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    kim123 said:
    Fingers cross my gf decision letter comes today and she wins it 
    Yes, fingers crossed :) 
    It still hasn't come she stressing out will it come on monday 
  • Lou67Lou67 Member Posts: 894 Pioneering
    Aw that’s a shame, hopefully come at start off the week.
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    kim123 said:
    kim123 said:
    Fingers cross my gf decision letter comes today and she wins it 
    Yes, fingers crossed :) 
    It still hasn't come she stressing out will it come on monday 
    Has your post arrived yet today? If not, there's still time.

    Otherwise I can't predict when it will arrive, hopefully it does come on Monday though. It's hard to say at the moment with the various delays holding up the postage system.

    Please try your best to relax and take your mind off it for a bit, it will be with you eventually :) 
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  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    kim123 said:
    kim123 said:
    Fingers cross my gf decision letter comes today and she wins it 
    Yes, fingers crossed :) 
    It still hasn't come she stressing out will it come on monday 
    Has your post arrived yet today? If not, there's still time.

    Otherwise I can't predict when it will arrive, hopefully it does come on Monday though. It's hard to say at the moment with the various delays holding up the postage system.

    Please try your best to relax and take your mind off it for a bit, it will be with you eventually :) 
    Hope so and I hope its gd new for her 
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    It may not be though because of the amount of mail going through royal mail at the moment. And yes I won :) 
    Hey when did u win urs and jw did u have help and all
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    kim123 said:
    kim123 said:
    kim123 said:
    Fingers cross my gf decision letter comes today and she wins it 
    Yes, fingers crossed :) 
    It still hasn't come she stressing out will it come on monday 
    Has your post arrived yet today? If not, there's still time.

    Otherwise I can't predict when it will arrive, hopefully it does come on Monday though. It's hard to say at the moment with the various delays holding up the postage system.

    Please try your best to relax and take your mind off it for a bit, it will be with you eventually :) 
    Hope so and I hope its gd new for her 
    Have u won ur pip 
  • laurapeachlaurapeach Member Posts: 103 Pioneering
    kim123 said:
    It may not be though because of the amount of mail going through royal mail at the moment. And yes I won :) 
    Hey when did u win urs and jw did u have help and all
    I had my tribunal at the end of December and got the result a week to two later in January. I didn't have help no apart from my boyfriend and my own research. 
    Mum of one, I have M.E/CFS, POTS, Central Sensitization Syndrome and Joint Hypermobility Syndrome.
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    Ok she had hers monday just waiting on decision letter she had her spourt work to help her she just depressioed  she thinks she ent going to get it I dont know wat to do she been waiting from 2019  to get it back it's been a long hard time for her I really hope she gets it 
    Her spourt work sent in things for her before hand 
  • laurapeachlaurapeach Member Posts: 103 Pioneering
    kim123 said:
    Ok she had hers monday just waiting on decision letter she had her spourt work to help her she just depressioed  she thinks she ent going to get it I dont know wat to do she been waiting from 2019  to get it back it's been a long hard time for her I really hope she gets it 
    Her spourt work sent in things for her before hand 
    There's nothing you can do at this point, you just have to sit tight and wait for the decision letter from the tribunal to arrive. It can take 2-3 weeks to turn up. 
    Mum of one, I have M.E/CFS, POTS, Central Sensitization Syndrome and Joint Hypermobility Syndrome.
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    They told her within a week so prob monday 
  • laurapeachlaurapeach Member Posts: 103 Pioneering
    Yes, but like others have said before the post could be running late so if it doesn't turn up on Monday don't panic. 
    Mum of one, I have M.E/CFS, POTS, Central Sensitization Syndrome and Joint Hypermobility Syndrome.
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    Kk I'm just going to wait until monday moring 
  • Lou67Lou67 Member Posts: 894 Pioneering
    Hi it’s horrible waiting on your decision, but hopefully not have much longer to wait.
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    She stressing out and she saying she ent going to get I hope she does as she been waiting 2 years to get this back fingers cross 
  • Lou67Lou67 Member Posts: 894 Pioneering
    Yeah fingers crossed 
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    kim123 said:
    kim123 said:
    Fingers cross my gf decision letter comes today and she wins it 
    Yes, fingers crossed :) 
    It still hasn't come she stressing out will it come on monday 
    Has your post arrived yet today? If not, there's still time.

    Otherwise I can't predict when it will arrive, hopefully it does come on Monday though. It's hard to say at the moment with the various delays holding up the postage system.

    Please try your best to relax and take your mind off it for a bit, it will be with you eventually :) 
    Did u win 
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    Hopefully my gf will have her letter tomorrow she keeps thinking she ent going to get it she's stressing out all the time it upsets me seeing her like this
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    Yes, but like others have said before the post could be running late so if it doesn't turn up on Monday don't panic. 
    Did u win ur pip
  • laurapeachlaurapeach Member Posts: 103 Pioneering
    Yes I did win it
    Mum of one, I have M.E/CFS, POTS, Central Sensitization Syndrome and Joint Hypermobility Syndrome.
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    Let's hope my gf gets her letter today and it's good news 
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    Update still no letter come through 
  • Lou67Lou67 Member Posts: 894 Pioneering
    Hopefully won’t have much longer to wait.
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    Its strange tho as pip got their letter but not my gf 
  • scouser77scouser77 Member Posts: 24 Listener
    If pip got there letter wont they tell you the out come ?
  • Lou67Lou67 Member Posts: 894 Pioneering
    I was just about to say the same thing. 
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    That's what we trying to sort out as I'm confused 
  • laurapeachlaurapeach Member Posts: 103 Pioneering
    PIP told me I won mine before I got my Tribunal letter, I'd give them another ring and ask them over the phone to tell you. 
    Mum of one, I have M.E/CFS, POTS, Central Sensitization Syndrome and Joint Hypermobility Syndrome.
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    We  rang them two times and they told us  that they received the letter on the 24 and they asked for my bank details 
    If they didnt get the letter they wouldn't be asking for my gfs bank details 
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    PIP told me I won mine before I got my Tribunal letter, I'd give them another ring and ask them over the phone to tell you. 
    We  rang them two times and they told us  that they received the letter on the 24 and they asked for my bank details 
    If they didnt get the letter they wouldn't be asking for my gfs bank details 
  • scouser77scouser77 Member Posts: 24 Listener
    Check your bank could be a nice surprise waiting for you .. 
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    We have and nothing they wouldn't ask for my gf  bank details if they wasnt going to give my gf pip or backdate her 
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    scouser77 said:
    Check your bank could be a nice surprise waiting for you .. 
    I'm confused pip got the tribunal letter but my gf haven't they received it on the 24 feb 
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    PIP told me I won mine before I got my Tribunal letter, I'd give them another ring and ask them over the phone to tell you. 
    I'm confused pip got the tribunal letter but my gf haven't they received it on the 24 feb 
  • scouser77scouser77 Member Posts: 24 Listener
    So no update kim was the payment in you're GF account hope so and if not demand a answer 
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    scouser77 said:
    So no update kim was the payment in you're GF account hope so and if not demand a answer 
    They ask for her bank details two days a go and they had the decision letter on the 24 feb 
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    scouser77 said:
    So no update kim was the payment in you're GF account hope so and if not demand a answer 
    So that's means that she would get her pip and her backdated 
  • laurapeachlaurapeach Member Posts: 103 Pioneering
    edited March 3
    kim123 said:
    scouser77 said:
    So no update kim was the payment in you're GF account hope so and if not demand a answer 
    So that's means that she would get her pip and her backdated 
    Is that what they told you?
    Mum of one, I have M.E/CFS, POTS, Central Sensitization Syndrome and Joint Hypermobility Syndrome.
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    kim123 said:
    scouser77 said:
    So no update kim was the payment in you're GF account hope so and if not demand a answer 
    So that's means that she would get her pip and her backdated 
    Is that what they told you?
    They said that the received the letter 24 feb that my gf  getting pip and they ask for her back details they would say that she's got it or ask for bank details if they wasnt going to give it to her 
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener

    kim123 said:
    scouser77 said:
    So no update kim was the payment in you're GF account hope so and if not demand a answer 
    So that's means that she would get her pip and her backdated 
    Is that what they told you?
    They wouldn't say she got it if she didnt and they wouldn't ask for her bank details 
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    Jw how long does it take to get any backdate the letter to tell u how much u going to get and all 
  • laurapeachlaurapeach Member Posts: 103 Pioneering
    It took 3 weeks to get my letter and backpay after they received the tribunal letter. They have 28 days to appeal the Tribunals decision but the majority of the time they don't. It could be anywhere up to 8 weeks depending on how busy it is. 
    Mum of one, I have M.E/CFS, POTS, Central Sensitization Syndrome and Joint Hypermobility Syndrome.
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    Kk but we all ready talked  to them they said they trying to fined how much they need to back pay her they had the letter 24 so they not going to appeal against it k
  • laurapeachlaurapeach Member Posts: 103 Pioneering
    They still legally have 28 days to appeal, but by the sound of it they probably won't in your girlfriends case.
    Mum of one, I have M.E/CFS, POTS, Central Sensitization Syndrome and Joint Hypermobility Syndrome.
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    They still legally have 28 days to appeal, but by the sound of it they probably won't in your girlfriends case.
    Yes but they all ready told her that they trying to fined out how much they owe her they wouldn't say that if they going to appeal 
  • kim123kim123 Member Posts: 75 Listener
    They still legally have 28 days to appeal, but by the sound of it they probably won't in your girlfriends case.
    And they wouldn't ask for her bank details if they wouldn't going to pay her or her not haveing pip 
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