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How to convince them I am really in pain?

DaljitgDaljitg Member Posts: 1 Listener
edited May 2020 in PIP, DLA and AA
Hi i had my both hips replacement surgery done 10years ago but it didn't work good and I started to have pain there year after surgery and now it is bad I can't even walk without crutches and hardly 10 to 20 meter but nothing is shown in scan so  DWP think me lier and health assessment team declared that I am fit for work.plz some one help me what to do.my life was already **** and they made it hell I feel like dying. Please advise me how to convince them that I am really in pain . don't understand how so many people fakeing but they get all and I'm suffering my kids suffering because of my health but they don't care and ask strange question and decided fit for work.


  • chiariedschiarieds Community champion Posts: 6,897 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @Daljitg - Welcome to the community. I'm sorry your hip replacement surgery was unsuccessful, & for the difficulties that's left you facing. It's only yourself that can describe your pain, but you might say where it is, when it affects you, what it may limit you doing, how you feel after you've attempted something, what is the nature of your pain, how often on average do you experience it, etc.
    You can ask for the decision to be looked at again, which is a Mandatory Reconsideration (MR). You have 1 month from the date of your decision letter to apply for this. Unfortunately less than 1 in 5 MRs are successful, but you have to go through this before you can appeal to a tribunal, where the outcomes are much more positive.
    If you have any questions, there's usually someone here able to advise.
  • AilsAils Community champion Posts: 2,268 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @Daljitg and welcome to the Community.  It's nice to meet you and thank you for sharing with us.  I'm sorry to hear you are in so much pain after your hip replacement surgery.  I can relate to this as I had my left hip replaced in 2015 and this was unsuccessful from the point of view that it has left me in more pain and with less mobility than I had before so I can completely understand your frustration around this.  Have you thought about attending a Pain Clinic for your pain?  Your GP can refer you to one of these, obviously when the lock-down has ceased.

    You have been given really good information above by @chiarieds regarding Mandatory Reconsideration, so I hope you have found this helpful and I wish you well with this.  Please stay in touch and let us know how you are getting on.  If we can be of any help/support to you then please just let us know.  All the best.  :smile:

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  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,380 Disability Gamechanger
    I think the first thing to say here is that comments about people “faking it” are unwelcome; very hard to justify and not relevant to your case.

    Secondly, there is no way to persuade anyone of your precise level of pain but in any event it’s the wrong focus. PIP isn’t about your pain. It’s about whether the pain has a genuine origin and, accepting that it does, then looking at how that impacts your ability to perform the various descriptors you say apply to you. 

    If you can tell 2 recent and detailed stories about what happened last time you attempted a specific activity, and do that for every activity, then things will start to fall into place. 
  • woodbinewoodbine Member Posts: 2,979 Disability Gamechanger
    Agree that comments about people faking it are unhelpful and uncalled for, do you have any written evidence? are you taking pain killers? do you use a walking stick or other aid? I assume from what you said that you applied for ESA? have you applied for PIP and been refused?
    my advice is given freely and is correct to the best of my knowledge.
  • Chloe_ScopeChloe_Scope Scope Posts: 10,662 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @Daljitg and welcome to the community. I'm really sorry to hear you haven't been believed, this must be incredibly frustrating.

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  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,380 Disability Gamechanger
    woodbine said:
    Agree that comments about people faking it are unhelpful and uncalled for, do you have any written evidence? are you taking pain killers? do you use a walking stick or other aid? I assume from what you said that you applied for ESA? have you applied for PIP and been refused?
    These are interesting ones. Few decision makers are persuaded by any of them.

    Ultimately the level of pain killers for example doesn’t tell you anything objective about the level of pain. Everyone experiences pain differently and everyone manages it differently. My spinal injury, at its worst, demanded painkillers 25 hours a day at a very high level. I refused to take them although I did take paracetamol 24/7 for a period. Is my pain more or less than the person who takes that higher level? Could they just be taking them because they’re addicted or their pain threshold is lower than mine? Who can say? That’s explicitly why trying to demonstrate your  pain level for PIP is irrelevant. It won’t get you PIP and it would be silly if it could as it can’t be objectively measured. 

    Similarly a walking stick or other aid. Is it for pain relief or posture? Is it for stability or a placebo? Was it measured up for and provided by the NHS or something you inherited or bought? Either way, it indicates nothing meaningful beyond you have one. 

    As per my previous post, trying to prove your pain level is impossible but also irrelevant. 
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