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Are the pip asessors allowed to question you about your parenting to your children

mk2000mk2000 Member Posts: 57 Connected
He wrote on my report I must be fine because I can change my child's nappies ...is this allowed he kept asking me how do I cook and bath my kids and take them to school or doctors if I suffer anxiety and depression and i dont like going out

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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    HI,

    It must have been awful and i'm sorry to hear this. However, it's all part of the assessment process because they are trying to get a picture of your daily life and how your conditions affect you against the PIP descriptors.
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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    For example, if you stated that you don't go out and you have young children that go to school then who takes them to school, if you don't go out? Your partner, your mum or maybe a friend?
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  • mk2000mk2000 Member Posts: 57 Connected
    I explained my mum but he just kept saying i can't seem to understand i said understsnd what that my mum helps me alot hmm because I look after my kids doesnt mean I'm not mentally stable and fine inside and I don't struggle everyday but he seemed to take it as becaude I can look after my children i must be able to look after my self 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    No, it doesn't mean you can't look after your children at all. The questions that were asked are perfectly normal though and part of the assessment. Please concentrate on the MR before anything else.
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  • janer1967janer1967 Member Posts: 9,236 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi I understand how being questioned about how you care for your children is upsetting I know it would upset me.

    But as Poppy said it is re about how you go about your daily life and asking those sort of questions are an obvious part of any mothers day.

    It may go in your favour that your condition clearly affects your daily life to the extent that you cant take your children to school maybe think of it in a positive rather than a negative
  • cupcake88cupcake88 Member Posts: 874 Pioneering
    Hi there as mentioned above I just wanted to send my support and say it’s not nice I know it feels very personal but this is the sort of stuff they ask it was the same with me regarding my dog they must of asked the same question surrounding his care over and over again but in a different way . 

    Because I think with my self they were trying to get a idea of who walks my dog ect , she also asked me things like when you could go out on days out where would you go with your dog ect  , so I was asked questions like that so I’m guessing you would of been asked bout the school run ? And cooking food ect around the children I know it’s hard not to take it personally after me expressing I didn’t want to talk bout certain things I found distressing she kept asking and it sort of made me think why does this lady keep asking me this it’s really hard I know it’s not some thing Nice to go Very stressful . I can’t remember Have you had your final decision yet ? Sorry I forgot . 

    I’m in the same boat I’m still waiting for mines , I just keep thinking positive we’ll trying my best too but Iam really worried but I just keep trying to take my mind off it . 

    Xx 
  • FairHairedFoodieFairHairedFoodie Member Posts: 28 Courageous
    After the assessor asked if I'd ever considered suicide and I answered yes, she then asked why I'd never gone through with it. It seemed like such an awful question, asking a person who has had tendencies toward suicide why they didn't just do it.

    I received excellent advice here on the reason behind the question and it made sense to me at that point. The questions can be deeply, deeply personal--and often feel offensive--but knowing the 'why' made it all clearer. I'm sorry your experience was not a good one. I have been there too.
  • cupcake88cupcake88 Member Posts: 874 Pioneering
    @FairHairedFoodie oh no sorry they said that to you my god that’s horrible . 

    Was you successful in getting pip .
  • FairHairedFoodieFairHairedFoodie Member Posts: 28 Courageous
    cupcake88 said:
    @FairHairedFoodie oh no sorry they said that to you my god that’s horrible . 

    Was you successful in getting pip .
    I was successful but only after Mandatory Reconsideration. My full timeline is here.
  • mk2000mk2000 Member Posts: 57 Connected
    @cupcake88 no i got my report back but he had put the dot in every box ehat said I can do everything which didn't make sense to what he wrote so it looks like I've scored no points hun I'm still waiting to but ino what their decision will be have u heard anything back they did say 8 weeks though I don't no why it takes so long when they already know their decision x
  • cupcake88cupcake88 Member Posts: 874 Pioneering
    Hi there hun no I have Heard nothing I did call up and was told it had been sent to the dwp . I personally decided not to see the report I would rather just wait for the decision as I think it would worry me more to look at the report with no answer . 

    Yeh can take up to 8 weeks hun . I think if it gets to 4 weeks I might request a copy of the report but I’m ok at the moment I feel like I’ll be ok to wait a few more weeks . I have waited this long . 

    You never know what it will say just fingers crossed for you hun 
  • lindyloo42lindyloo42 Member Posts: 22 Listener
    Hi all av just got my mr back n it’s bad news for me am just thinking about next steps as I still think it’s wrong . My nerves getting the better off me but I really don’t want to give up just yet x
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Testing team Posts: 7,953

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    Hi @lindyloo42. I'm sorry to hear your MR wasn't successful. Sadly success rates of MR are pretty low but this doesn't mean you shouldn't continue especially if you don't want to. The good news is that success rates at tribunal stage are much higher. 

    We've some information on the tribunal process on our website here: Tribunal appeal
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  • cupcake88cupcake88 Member Posts: 874 Pioneering
    @lindyloo42 hi Lindy loo sorry to hear this no don’t give up keep going . There have been loads of positive stories on here where people haven’t given up and get a good outcome .  Was your mr because you felt you should of received a higher pip or did your not get awarded at all ? Keep on fighting we are all hear for you 
  • mk2000mk2000 Member Posts: 57 Connected
    @cupcake88 I've got mine back and they've give me 0 points said I can look after my kids so I'm fine omg the cheek
  • cupcake88cupcake88 Member Posts: 874 Pioneering
    @mk2000 did you get your decision back mk today mk ? Or just the report 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Whether it does go against a claimant will depend on the reasons they're claiming PIP.
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  • mk2000mk2000 Member Posts: 57 Connected
    I got it back the full thing and they haven't give me it 0 points sucks ... when he's said i can do everything I can't i get help or support with
  • cupcake88cupcake88 Member Posts: 874 Pioneering
    Did you get it threw the post you got 0 points for every thing ? Im sorry to here this 
  • river123river123 Member Posts: 85 Connected
    I had my assessment last Thursday then txt of dwp on the Friday to say they've received my report , I've rang up dwp today and requested my report. So scared of hearing the outcome after hearing such bad stories on people's. My assessor asked me really odd questions too. The dip told me today that it shouldn't be too long until I get a decision, fingers crossed I will hear something soon as it's only taken 4 weeks since sending off my report to getting an assessment to this stage now.
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,995 Disability Gamechanger
    Define “odd questions”?
  • river123river123 Member Posts: 85 Connected
    Questions like, What GCSEs I got and things like if I ever go on holiday and really personal questions regarding how many times a week does my children go out, when the claim is for me not my children. The questions just didn't seem relevant as to why I'm applying for pip
  • cupcake88cupcake88 Member Posts: 874 Pioneering
    @river123 hi river I was asked very similar questions . They ask these questions to get a idea of your day to day life . And how your condition affects you . I was asked what sort school I went too , a lot about my dog , and if I go on holiday and my response was if opening the front door Is a holiday than yeh she laughed . I haven’t been on holiday in like 20 years . There is reasoning behind there questions .  Just like people with children Get asked bout how they look after kids ect I think it’s the same with pets like with a dog there gonna ask who walks the dog ect who feeds him where would I take him if I could go out do I ever take the dog on holiday I got asked loads to do with my dog . 
  • laurapeachlaurapeach Member Posts: 100 Courageous
    Hi @river123 they have to ask you those sorts of questions to find out what you do daily, and to try and get more information for the descriptors. So say they asked how often your children go out, they would then want to know who takes them out and if it's you then how do you do it. If you can take the children out to the park etc they then might question if you need the mobility component sort of thing. They need to get the whole picture of day to day to relate it to the descriptors. They would also question if you needed PIP if you can go on holiday and get around without support and things like that. It's just another way for them to figure out what descriptors you would best fit into.
    Mum of one, I have M.E/CFS, POTS, Central Sensitization Syndrome and Joint Hypermobility Syndrome.
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,995 Disability Gamechanger
    It’s actually very specific and very little to do with your daily life. 

    So, your GCSEs link into reading, communicating and budgeting. Going on holiday is linked into prepping food (self-catering); budgeting; bathing; toileting; planning and following a route; mobilising (how you get through an airport). Children going out is linked to trading; mobilising; planning and following. The sort of school you went to indicates if you went to a non-mainstream school because you had educational needs triggered by learning disability say or sensory loss. It tells them about broad levels of likely impairment. Again it feeds into engagement, communication, reading etc. Having a dog triggers thoughts around who walks the dog; who bends down to pick it up; to clear up after it and so on. That in turn would suggest stuff around bathing and dressing - things which require mobility and movement and bending. It can also feed into reading. Whether a person with sensory loss can distinguish between dog food and soup on a supermarket shelf. 

    As you can hopefully see, there are no irrelevant quest yin’s. Just quite clever ones which enable people with a shortage of time to cover lots of bases very quickly and accurately. 
  • river123river123 Member Posts: 85 Connected
    Argh right ye I totally get it now, thanks for explaining it all to me. Makes a lot of sense now. Questions she asked me seemed irrelevant but now seem very genuine. I’m hoping I may get my report today in the post, although it was only sent out yesterday second class so could be a few more days until I receive that. From what the dwp said yesterday, the decision maker can some time go against the reports so I’m not gunna read to much into it now really and just hopefully make get a decision in the next few weeks.  
  • cupcake88cupcake88 Member Posts: 874 Pioneering
    @river123 hi river have you got a update on pip ? I still haven’t heard back @mk2000 how are you did you fill pot your mr ? 
  • mk2000mk2000 Member Posts: 57 Connected
    You probably are getting yours @cupcake88 because I heard back same week and I asked them for the mandatory decision I rang them and they said they will send it but I've had nothing not sure what I'm suppose to do im waiting for my doctors records to send in
  • alieshiaalieshia Member Posts: 73 Courageous
    you need to supply full reasoning to every question, did you get any help with your MR? 
  • river123river123 Member Posts: 85 Connected
    @cupcake88 hi ye I have had my report back and it was absolutely shocking, I scored 2 on it.. the assessor was so contridicting as she’s scored me two but then wrote in my notes that’s I struggle with things etc so there for I should of scored more. I am just waiting to get my decision but no doubt the decision maker will go with the assessors report and if they do then I won’t get an award. But then I will be asking for a MR. I’m hoping to get my decision letter this week. I hope you do too
  • cupcake88cupcake88 Member Posts: 874 Pioneering
    If I remember @river123 @mk2000 @rsx @depressedmum09 im
    pretty sure we had our phone assessments the same time . And mines took bit longer to reach to the dwp . @mk2000 length of time doesn’t really matter I don’t think it’s different in each town . But thank you . I don’t think I have got it I made 0 sense that day on the phone anxious as hell . So in my head I’m already preparing for a mr . Nothing good happens to me i know it may not be millions but this will really help me out . Ideally I would like higher rate daily living and lower mobility Which I doubt I’ll get I don’t leave my house not since march . So the fact I was able to go out in March could go against me and the thank I had visits from the crisis team each day in January when I took really ill that may go against me they might say I can socialise even tho it was the crisis team . I can’t thank every one enough for the care and support seriously god bless you all . 
  • river123river123 Member Posts: 85 Connected
    Aww it is so bad how it makes us feel isn’t it. And yes @cupcake88 I think you had yours a few days before me from what I’ve seen on here. My guess is they will make a decision this week. I’m hoping anyway but like I said I think I’m definitely going to have to go for a MR going off this report I have of the assessor. By the sounds of it even MR don’t change. I think it’s definitely going to be the stage after that for me. My friend went in for pip and got scored 0 then had to appeal and got enchanted for both. So just proves I guess it can happen.
  • cupcake88cupcake88 Member Posts: 874 Pioneering
    Good luck river I’m hoping for the best for your self fingers crossed 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Mr decision stats have changed since Covid19 and this has been mentioned several times across different threads in the past few days.
    Before Covid19 there was about a 17% success BUT now's its about 54% success rate so a huge difference. Don't ask me why it's suddenly increased so much but it's definitely a very good thing.
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  • cupcake88cupcake88 Member Posts: 874 Pioneering
    Yes it’s amazing poppy very positive 
  • river123river123 Member Posts: 85 Connected
    Aw great. Thanks poppy and I hope you get the outcome u what @cupcake88 I will keep u updated
  • river123river123 Member Posts: 85 Connected
    So I’ve had my decision witch is no award given! Absolutely raging with this outcome so far, what advise would you all give now? What way would you go about going in for a MR? 
    Many thanks 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    river123 said:
    So I’ve had my decision witch is no award given! Absolutely raging with this outcome so far, what advise would you all give now? What way would you go about going in for a MR? 
    Many thanks 
    Hi,
    You have 1 month from the date of the decision to request the MR. You should put this in writing stating where and why you think you should have scored those points. Then add a couple of real life examples of what happened the last time you attempted that activity for each descriptor that applies to you
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  • Cher_ScopeCher_Scope Posts: 3,404

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    @poppy123456 's advice is brilliant.  Make sure to thickly describe in as much detail as you can how your impairment impacts your undertaking of activities and means you need help.  

    I can understand you feeling angry about it.  Take a breather, make a brew and try to relax (easier said than done I know)
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  • cupcake88cupcake88 Member Posts: 874 Pioneering
    @river123 So sorry river was routing for you Im sorry but dont give up you got this I cant remember did you say you was on meds if so get a hold of your meds list and send it off with the Mr also any medical professionals or even a friend or family member who can comment on how your condition affects you . I Checked the post again nothing which is rubbish I dont think I have pip @poppy123456 what are the chances of them telling you over the phone if they have made a decision but not done the letter yet will they tell me over the phone . I think its a no for me every one else who has there assessment just before or after me has had there decisions back I think mines could be a no . So Iam my friend preparing for worst case .  
  • river123river123 Member Posts: 85 Connected
    @cupcake88 hi I haven’t actually had my decision letter I’ve rang the dwp up this morning and they’ve said a decision has been made witch is no award for either. I have already sent a list of my medication and injections that I am on in already, I sent all that with a later of my ibd nurse saying how it affects my daily living and so on.. but like I said the assessors report is just downgrading as the descriptors are all basically saying I’m capable of things but then in the paragraph under it she has stated that I am in fact finding things difficult and stuff. This is why it’s so frustrating! I have to wait for my letter in the post witch is been sent out second class then I will ring up requesting for a MR but as for sending in more evidence, they have loads there already so wouldn’t really have much more to send in.. 
  • river123river123 Member Posts: 85 Connected
    And thank you @poppy123456  and @Cher_Scope
    Much appreciated 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    edited August 2020
    @cupcake88 i realise just how anxious this is making you but there's really nothing more you can do until the decision's been made. If it's made they will tell you over the phone. Although it does concern me when they tell you the decision over the phone, if it's a refusal.

    I know you only requested the report a couple of dsays ago and it can take several working days to arrive because of the mail sorting process coming from DWP. Although some people receive them within a few days. It doesn't mean anything.
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  • Chloe_ScopeChloe_Scope Scope Posts: 10,652 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @cupcake88, just wanted to check in to see how you were doing. :)
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  • depressedmum09depressedmum09 Member Posts: 34 Courageous
    I got the exact the questions you both did @river123 @mk2000
    I suffer with bipolar, depression and general anxiety disorder.

    I have 2 young children, 7 and 1, the assessor asked me how do I look after them etc, but I explained my husband does literally everything when I have my bad days, I also mentioned when I am really bad he stays at his mums with the kids because It can be particularly scary for my 7 year old to witness.

    With regards to education, they asked me about it all. School grades etc, I got A's & B's on my GCSEs, A's on A levels and a 1st degree in engineering. I worked full time as an engineer in a well paid job until 2017 after this I had a breakdown. I stated all these things on my report and still received 11 points for daily living. I have done an MR because in my current state I believe I am entitled to enhanced daily living and at least the lower component of mobility.

    Dont be scared to tell the truth, be proud that your intelligent, be proud if your a mum that still has to do everything despite struggling severely with your mental health, just make sure you are clear in what your struggles are and how they effect you and impact your life. I did just that and I was awarded 11 points. 

    I really hope you both you get some good news soon, waiting for that decision made me feel so sick every day. 
  • river123river123 Member Posts: 85 Connected
    Aww thank you for your support @depressedmum09  I have rang dwp on Friday and requested a MR and I sent more information on Friday witch I’m hoping they may receive it all this week some time.. how long ago did you go in for your MR.. wish u all the luck 
  • mk2000mk2000 Member Posts: 57 Connected
    @depressedmum09 well they have wrote on my form I score 0 points and didn't  give me anything because if I can look after my children I can look after my self theur is nothing wrong with me if I can change a nappy even though I explained my mum helps me I guess it just depends who you speak to cause I did tell the truth and everything they wrote was lies
  • mk2000mk2000 Member Posts: 57 Connected
    They really are a joke x
  • mk2000mk2000 Member Posts: 57 Connected
    @river123 I xant belive they gave me 0 points the guy was so rude
  • river123river123 Member Posts: 85 Connected
    @mk2000 aww sorry to here that.. have u gone in for an MR
  • cupcake88cupcake88 Member Posts: 874 Pioneering
    It was interesting to see what points I scored I actually didn’t get my report ha but I got my Award letter That told me what points I got . I was surprised that I got 0 points for verbal communication as I struggle to communicate with people . 

    I got 2 points for not managing bills well I had no Money so my partner pays for every thing . I’m surprised I didn’t get points for verbal communication. I’m happy with what I was awarded but I was shocked to see i
    got 0 points for communication . I literally just got the higher award for daily living and lower mobility . 

    It’s a relief it’s for 2 years . I hope no one thinks I’m bragging as I don’t want to come across as Insensitive but when reading what the assessor said she said that what my edvidence and what my assessment and after them speaking to the crisis team I was under they had made there decision over all those things and my partners statement . All of my disability’s are mental illness no physical , 

    I think when writing your mr I would deffo put some statements In from people who know you best . If you get them to focus on how it affects you not the condition it’s self . Like my partner wrote how bad he’s seen my illness affect me how it gives me less qualify in life how doing every day things affects me , I also put care plans in my original form , a lot with statements from my doctor , at the time of filling the form out I was on the waiting list for a community nurse I did send that letter off to them also , also send them a medication list . 

    I was answered a lot of in depth questions and it was so hard for me to answer and really stressed me out .

    i didn’t have to do a mr but maybe you could add them
    more edvidence to it like what I sent originally I’m sure it wIll help best of luck to you xx
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    @cupcake88 the fact that you didn't score no points in the communication part really doesn't make any difference because you have Enhanced daily living and you can't get a higher award than that.
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  • lindyloo42lindyloo42 Member Posts: 22 Listener
    Waiting on tribunal now . Had telephone assessment was very anxious ended up saying I was more good days than bad with the question being on percentage I answered 60/ 40 to good day which I should have said 60/ bad days now the advisor has based just about all my pip claim on this I have someone now helping me from cab he’s going to write a report for tribunal only I don’t know if I can change the answer ? I was so anxious on the phone though they said I appeared not to be they couldn’t even see me 😂 anyway really worried I’ve completely messed it all up xx
  • lindyloo42lindyloo42 Member Posts: 22 Listener
    Sorry don’t know if av posted to the right bit xx
  • cupcake88cupcake88 Member Posts: 874 Pioneering
    Good luck hun I really hope it works in your favour I’m sure it will . I was so nervous when I had my assessment I didn’t think mine went well and it did so you really never know but don’t give up .
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    @lindyloo42  Aww I know how anxiety provoking it is, you aren't alone!  I have everything crossed for the outcome of your tribunal and I'm glad you have someone from CAB supporting you.  Let us know how you get on.  
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  • lindyloo42lindyloo42 Member Posts: 22 Listener
    Hi I had my tribunal yesterday. They’ve said I’ll hear in next 2 days so am expecting a call tomorrow. No matter what the outcome am just glad it’s all over that’s been just over a year of dealing with this now glad it’s over but will be gutted if I don’t get any points as I’ve just put myself through all this for nothing . Keeping my fingers crossed 🤞 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi I had my tribunal yesterday. They’ve said I’ll hear in next 2 days so am expecting a call tomorrow. No matter what the outcome am just glad it’s all over that’s been just over a year of dealing with this now glad it’s over but will be gutted if I don’t get any points as I’ve just put myself through all this for nothing . Keeping my fingers crossed 🤞 

    You will likely receive the decision letter rather than a phone call. Good luck and do let us know the outcome.
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  • lindyloo42lindyloo42 Member Posts: 22 Listener
    Will do and thanks 
  • lindyloo42lindyloo42 Member Posts: 22 Listener
    does it mean av no points that they couldn’t give me a decision on the day ?
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    does it mean av no points that they couldn’t give me a decision on the day ?

    No, not at all. Lots of people don't have the decision on the day, even when appearing in person but it definitely doesn't mean they haven't been awarded. It just means a decision couldn't be made on the day. They will send you a decision letter within 3 weeks.
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  • lindyloo42lindyloo42 Member Posts: 22 Listener
    Ok great thanks 
  • Lou67Lou67 Member Posts: 868 Pioneering
    @lindyloo42 Hi I’m glad your appeal went ok for you, I had mine 3 weeks ago, I received my letter 2 days later, and got backpay a week and a half later, hope you have a good outcome.
  • lindyloo42lindyloo42 Member Posts: 22 Listener
    Thanks much 👍
  • Ross_ScopeRoss_Scope Posts: 3,206

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    Best of luck with the outcome @lindyloo42 :) 
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  • lindyloo42lindyloo42 Member Posts: 22 Listener
    Thank you 🙏 no letter today so guess I’ll have to wait and see if anything arrives tomorrow 
  • Ross_ScopeRoss_Scope Posts: 3,206

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    Try your best not to get too hung up on waiting for it, but yes I hope it arrives soon.
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  • cupcake88cupcake88 Member Posts: 874 Pioneering
    Fingers crossed for you let us know how you get on xx
  • lindyloo42lindyloo42 Member Posts: 22 Listener
    Thanks 😊 hope your doing ok cupcake88 xx
  • cupcake88cupcake88 Member Posts: 874 Pioneering
    I’m not doing great hun with my mental health but I’ll get there thanks for asking hope all goes well with your pip 
  • lindyloo42lindyloo42 Member Posts: 22 Listener
    Aw sorry to hear that know that feeling though hope you feeling a bit better soon xx
  • lindyloo42lindyloo42 Member Posts: 22 Listener
    Can someone explain what this means I have 2 points daily living and 12 points mobility is this passed ? 
  • Lou67Lou67 Member Posts: 868 Pioneering
    Hi @lindyloo42 Hi with these points youv received enhanced for mobility, but no award for daily living with only 2 points, sorry you didn’t get both, but glad you got the mobility. 
  • lindyloo42lindyloo42 Member Posts: 22 Listener
    Sorry it’s 10 points mobility 2 points engaging and 2 points daily living I’ve no idea if this has got me a personal independence payment thanks 
  • laurapeachlaurapeach Member Posts: 100 Courageous
    Sorry it’s 10 points mobility 2 points engaging and 2 points daily living I’ve no idea if this has got me a personal independence payment thanks 
    If its 2 points for engaging and 2 points for daily living that's 4 points for the daily living component who h doesn't get an award, and 10 points for mobility would be standard mobility rate. 
    Mum of one, I have M.E/CFS, POTS, Central Sensitization Syndrome and Joint Hypermobility Syndrome.
  • Lou67Lou67 Member Posts: 868 Pioneering
    Aww yes as Laura sd, I’m afraid it looks like it’s just the standard mobility and not enhanced you’ve been awarded, it should say on your letter have another read through it. 
  • lindyloo42lindyloo42 Member Posts: 22 Listener
    Yes it is thanks . Aw well at least it’s something but do think I should have got standard rate daily living as well .thanks folks .
  • Lou67Lou67 Member Posts: 868 Pioneering
    Yeah definitely better than nothing take care. 😊
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Sorry it’s 10 points mobility 2 points engaging and 2 points daily living I’ve no idea if this has got me a personal independence payment thanks 

    2 points for daily living and 2 points for engaging with others means 2 points in total for daily living because there's no "daily living" activity on it own.

    Once the decision is made if you disagree then you can request the mandatory recosideration (MR) but i'd advise you to get some expert advice before doing this because they will look at the whole award again and not just part of it.

    You will need another 6 points in the daily living part for standard award.

    Start here with that advice. https://advicelocal.uk/

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  • Lou67Lou67 Member Posts: 868 Pioneering
    I’m sure this was an appeal 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Lou67 said:
    I’m sure this was an appeal 

    Thank you for that, you're right i looked back at previous threads. @lindyloo42 As this was a decision made the the Tribunal then you can request the statement of reasons and record of proceedings within 1 month of the date of the decision. Once you receive both of those you'll need to find someone to take a look to see if they can find the error in law, if that's not found then you won't be able to take this any further.

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  • Lou67Lou67 Member Posts: 868 Pioneering
    No problem thanks Poppy. 
  • lindyloo42lindyloo42 Member Posts: 22 Listener
    Yes it was a tribunal it says the daily living is set aside I’ve no clue what that means 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    It means the decision made by DWP has been replaced with their decision but if you only scored 2 points that isn't enough for a daily living award because you need at least 8 points.
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  • lindyloo42lindyloo42 Member Posts: 22 Listener
    Thanks so I’ll get the standard mobility? 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Thanks so I’ll get the standard mobility? 

    If you scored 2 points for daily living and 10 points for mobility then yes standard mobility is your award. This will be £23.60 per week and if it's your first time claim and you haven't transferred from DLA then it's backdated to the date you first rang to start your claim.

    After a Tribunal win backdated money can take between 2-8 weeks.
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