PIP HELP NEEDED ASAP PLEASE

samfits99

So finally my Award Review Form has arrived, Yesterday Friday).

Should i treat it like a new claim guys?
it says i need to get it back by the 6th Feb would you guys send it off asap or delay it towards the end?
i no it comes with the envelope but is it worth paying to get it Special ND Delivery or not ? would i be wasting my money.
Has anyone sent the award review off and got a reply? if so let me no thanks everyone :P

poppy123456

HI,

How odd, i thought you sent your review forms back in September.. https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/73814/pip-award-review#latest

poppy123456

woodbine said:

@poppy123456   (thanks)  i missed that ! However the above advice still holds good for other people about to have a renewal.

You're welcome. Yes, indeed it is

poppy123456

Proof of posting is free from any post office and this is all that's needed. Next day delivery is a waste of money when returning anything to DWP because it doesn't mean it arrives the following day. Next day delivery/recorded delivery means it's signed for by someone from Royal Mail and not someone from DWP.

All post goes through the same mail sorting process and can take up to 10 working days to be added to the computer and it's not classed as arriving until this has been done.

thinkingsoul

@woodbine

Thank you for all that information. I will treat it like a new claim. I would be frustrated having to do a telephone assessment as you can't judge someone over the phone only in person. I'm not going to waste money with ND delivery. would you send it in asap ? might ask them can I have a two week extension. hopefully this time I will get something for mobility. as I only get enhanced daily living but should of scored points to get lower rate mobility. Any other advice I should no? @poppy123456 sorry just feel lonely as I have no mates and not many people I can talk to. hope I get awarded it again !

poppy123456

@thinkingsoul are you the same person as @samfits99 just different usernames?

Valerieco

Going from DLA to PIP JUST GOT forms a nightnare

poppy123456

Valerieco said:

Going from DLA to PIP JUST GOT forms a nightnare

HI,

It's important to remember that DLA and PIP are different benefits, with different criteria. When filling out the PIP forms you should make sure you put as much information as possible about how your conditions affect you. Add a couple of recent real world examples of what happened the last time you attempted that activity for each descriptor that applies to you, including information of who was with you, where you were and a detailed explanation of exactly what happened.

You can ring DWP to request and extension to return the form, if you don't have enough of time. Use extra sheets of paper because the space on the form is very limited. Making sure you add your name and NI number to everything you send. They very rarely contact anyone for any evidence and the onus is on you to prove you qualify, not theirs.

Expect a telephone assessment because most people have them (they have replaced face to face assessments) Once an appointment becomes available they will contact you.

Providing the form is returned on time your DLA will continue until a decision's been made on the PIP.

Good luck.

thinkingsoul

@poppy123456 if I do have to have a phone assessment I'm going to make it very clear that I'm going to record the whole interaction and will make a note of this on a separate paper. for my own personal use as well so they don't lie! can they award it you on the information you send? as you can't asses someone's needs over the phone fact ..

poppy123456

Paper based assessments are possible but they are rare. Telephone assessment have been going extremely well and even more people are awarded without any problems.

I wouldn't call what they write a lie, more a HCP's interpretation based on what was written in the form, evidence sent and what was said during the assessment.

You should concentrate on filling the form in with as much relevant information as possible, rather than recording any assessment.

chiarieds

@thinkingsoul - as mentioned, phone assessments have actually gone well. However, from you're previous replies, you feel you'll get a paper based assessment like @samfits99 due to your previous history. You say that you get the enhanced rate for the daily living component, but feel you should also get the standard rate for the mobility component. I've tagged @samfits who has similar disorders & expectancies; you might be able to share notes. samfits appears to have sent their review form off last September, so might prove useful, tho it's a little confusing that they've just said they got their review form last Friday. Anyway, hope they might be helpful.

poppy123456

We've also got a couple of other members with similar stories as @samfits99 and @thinkingsoul. @ChloeHibbert and @Sandra_63 are the members i'm thinking of. Maybe you should all share notes,  this way you'll be able to help each other.

BrettW

woodbine said:

poppy123456 said:

We've also got a couple of other members with similar stories as @samfits99 and @thinkingsoul. @ChloeHibbert and @Sandra_63 are the members i'm thinking of. Maybe you should all share notes,  this way you'll be able to help each other.

@poppy123456 well spotted, maybe we should all save ourselves the effort !

Save the effort of what?

chiarieds

Sorry for any confusion @BrettW - we're just trying to help several members with very similar experiences connect with each other...hopefully they can. They've all received advice, but sometimes sharing their personal experiences might better help.

BrettW

woodbine said:

chiarieds said:

Sorry for any confusion @BrettW - we're just trying to help several members with very similar experiences connect with each other...hopefully they can. They've all received advice, but sometimes sharing their personal experiences might better help.

You are far far more diplomatic than I could ever be 

Anyone who has ever moderated any sort of public discussion group will tell you that people will always ask the same questions over and over again. Some just don't bother to search through past posts and others simply aren't computer savvy enough to realise its an option. Either way it takes the right kind of attitude to give advice on such forums and maintain a professional approach at all times

poppy123456

BrettW said:

woodbine said:

chiarieds said:

Sorry for any confusion @BrettW - we're just trying to help several members with very similar experiences connect with each other...hopefully they can. They've all received advice, but sometimes sharing their personal experiences might better help.

You are far far more diplomatic than I could ever be 

Anyone who has ever moderated any sort of public discussion group will tell you that people will always ask the same questions over and over again. Some just don't bother to search through past posts and others simply aren't computer savvy enough to realise its an option. Either way it takes the right kind of attitude to give advice on such forums and maintain a professional approach at all times

They do yes but these members that have been tagged in this thread have such simialar stories, even as far as having paper assessments, to reviews and then even having their awards renewed after a phone call from a decision maker. Then some months later receiving even more review forms....

BrettW

poppy123456 said:

BrettW said:

woodbine said:

chiarieds said:

Sorry for any confusion @BrettW - we're just trying to help several members with very similar experiences connect with each other...hopefully they can. They've all received advice, but sometimes sharing their personal experiences might better help.

You are far far more diplomatic than I could ever be 

Anyone who has ever moderated any sort of public discussion group will tell you that people will always ask the same questions over and over again. Some just don't bother to search through past posts and others simply aren't computer savvy enough to realise its an option. Either way it takes the right kind of attitude to give advice on such forums and maintain a professional approach at all times

They do yes but these members that have been tagged in this thread have such simialar stories, even as far as having paper assessments, to reviews and then even having their awards renewed after a phone call from a decision maker. Then some months later receiving even more review forms....

Yes I understand all that Poppy but that wasn't actually the point I was making if you read my post again

BrettW

woodbine said:

BrettW said:

woodbine said:

chiarieds said:

Sorry for any confusion @BrettW - we're just trying to help several members with very similar experiences connect with each other...hopefully they can. They've all received advice, but sometimes sharing their personal experiences might better help.

You are far far more diplomatic than I could ever be 

Anyone who has ever moderated any sort of public discussion group will tell you that people will always ask the same questions over and over again. Some just don't bother to search through past posts and others simply aren't computer savvy enough to realise its an option. Either way it takes the right kind of attitude to give advice on such forums and maintain a professional approach at all times

I have moderated a number of forums over the years going back to the mid 90's and the early AOL forums and more recently for a time one of the UK's largest MSE, the problem arises when the same people ask the same question on a number of ocassions, or when you get alter ego's having discussions on the same thread,if only it was as simple as you seem to think all would be well. 

Regardless of the content of the forums like what you have stated above a certain level of professionalism should still be maintained. Ultimately anything said on these forums ultimately reflects back on Scope itself as they in fact offer these forum services 

chiarieds

Hi @BrettW - we were all trying to be polite & helpful, however several of us feel that some member(s) ask such similar questions so much that we believe they are the same person, as @woodbine mentions with their alter egos, which @poppy123456 picked up on. Now we would be most happy to chat with them about absolutely anything, & would help & support them as much as we could, but it becomes difficult if they don't want to. I'm not sure what we can possibly do, but would rather they were just able to be themselves rather than having so many persona.... of course that may be part of their disability. I hope that goes someway to answering your query.

We are used to answering the same queries over, & over again, & Poppy probably does the majority of those...that in itself has never been a problem here.

poppy123456

Yes, i very often feel like a parrot but it's fine, i don't have a problem with that. Yes, members could use the search function but i also understand that some people have never been on a forum before. Others will come for advice because they have no where else to go and the first thing they do is ask the questions, rather than search.

If people are lonely and need some support or just someone to talk to, there's always someone here. The coffee lounge has some great threads that people can join in with the discussions.

We are not professionals and we don't get paid for the advice we give. We are disabled people that give our time freely to help others.

BrettW

I understand what you are saying @chiarieds but whether people are doing this voluntarily or not the bigger picture needs to be looked at. 

Imagine a total newcomer coming to this forum and reading the first part of this thread and basically seeing people making statements about whether people giving advice should even bother with people. Do you think these people, who remember are probably feeling vulnerable and desperate for reassurance are going to feel like these forums are a welcoming place?

They are not going to be aware of the situation and their first impressions of the forum are not going to be positive. This is why I said a certain level of professionalism needs to be maintained

I know its annoying dealing with multiple accounts and repeated questions from the same people but there are many others coming to these forums who won't be aware of this situation

The old adage of 'if you can't say anything good then don't say anything at all' really should be applied here

Like it ir not when you make a comment on here people on the outside will ultimately see this as a reflection on Scope