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PIP HELP NEEDED ASAP PLEASE

samfits99samfits99 Member Posts: 155 Courageous
So finally my Award Review Form has arrived, Yesterday Friday).

Should i treat it like a new claim guys?
it says i need to get it back by the 6th Feb would you guys send it off asap or delay it towards the end?
i no it comes with the envelope but is it worth paying to get it Special ND Delivery or not ? would i be wasting my money.
Has anyone sent the award review off and got a reply? if so let me no thanks everyone :P

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  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,425 Disability Gamechanger
    hi @samfits99 you ok? not seen you around recently?

    !) yes treat it like a new claim sending as much relevant evidence as well
    2) you can phone them and ask for an extension to the return date they should give you 2 weeks.
    3) waste of money sending it sept.del. but do get proof of postage.
    4)make sure you send it at least 7 days before the due date, they should text you when its on the system.
    5) if you need an assessment it will be done by phone so make sure you make photo copies for reference

    and finally good luck
    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    HI,

    How odd, i thought you sent your review forms back in September.. https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/73814/pip-award-review#latest

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  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,425 Disability Gamechanger
    edited January 16
    @poppy123456   (thanks)  i missed that ! However the above advice still holds good for other people about to have a renewal.
    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    woodbine said:
    @poppy123456   (thanks)  i missed that ! However the above advice still holds good for other people about to have a renewal.

    You're welcome. Yes, indeed it is :)
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,425 Disability Gamechanger
    @samfits99 is there something else we can help you with? If you want to talk most of us are good listeners.

    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Proof of posting is free from any post office and this is all that's needed. Next day delivery is a waste of money when returning anything to DWP because it doesn't mean it arrives the following day. Next day delivery/recorded delivery means it's signed for by someone from Royal Mail and not someone from DWP.

    All post goes through the same mail sorting process and can take up to 10 working days to be added to the computer and it's not classed as arriving until this has been done.

    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • thinkingsoulthinkingsoul Member Posts: 18 Connected
    @woodbine

    Thank you for all that information. I will treat it like a new claim. I would be frustrated having to do a telephone assessment as you can't judge someone over the phone only in person. I'm not going to waste money with ND delivery. would you send it in asap ? might ask them can I have a two week extension. hopefully this time I will get something for mobility. as I only get enhanced daily living but should of scored points to get lower rate mobility. Any other advice I should no? @poppy123456 sorry just feel lonely as I have no mates and not many people I can talk to. hope I get awarded it again !
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,425 Disability Gamechanger
    @thinkingsoul it is thought that telephone assessments have worked in some claimants assessment as they can only go off a)the information you gave and b)the answers to their questions. You need to send it at least 7 days before the due date.
    The best thing you can is have a look online for the PIP descriptors.
    All DWP post goes to a royal mail delivery centre in Wolverhampton that's why I would never suggest recorded or ND delivery.

    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    @thinkingsoul are you the same person as @samfits99 just different usernames?
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • ValeriecoValerieco Member Posts: 16 Connected
    Going from DLA to PIP JUST GOT forms a nightnare
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Valerieco said:
    Going from DLA to PIP JUST GOT forms a nightnare

    HI,

    It's important to remember that DLA and PIP are different benefits, with different criteria. When filling out the PIP forms you should make sure you put as much information as possible about how your conditions affect you. Add a couple of recent real world examples of what happened the last time you attempted that activity for each descriptor that applies to you, including information of who was with you, where you were and a detailed explanation of exactly what happened.

    You can ring DWP to request and extension to return the form, if you don't have enough of time. Use extra sheets of paper because the space on the form is very limited. Making sure you add your name and NI number to everything you send. They very rarely contact anyone for any evidence and the onus is on you to prove you qualify, not theirs.

    Expect a telephone assessment because most people have them (they have replaced face to face assessments) Once an appointment becomes available they will contact you.

    Providing the form is returned on time your DLA will continue until a decision's been made on the PIP.

    Good luck.


    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • thinkingsoulthinkingsoul Member Posts: 18 Connected
    @poppy123456 if I do have to have a phone assessment I'm going to make it very clear that I'm going to record the whole interaction and will make a note of this on a separate paper. for my own personal use as well so they don't lie! can they award it you on the information you send? as you can't asses someone's needs over the phone fact ..
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,425 Disability Gamechanger
    The truth is that some (not all) people find telephone assessments easier as they are not judged on their appearance on the day. @thinkingsoul have you had an experience where they have lied? As I understand it if you record a conversation with someone it means nothing unless they have agreed to it (this is again just my understanding) however you will find a read of the link below of interest:

    https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/4283-pip-assessments-now-being-audio-recorded
    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Paper based assessments are possible but they are rare. Telephone assessment have been going extremely well and even more people are awarded without any problems.

    I wouldn't call what they write a lie, more a HCP's interpretation based on what was written in the form, evidence sent and what was said during the assessment.

    You should concentrate on filling the form in with as much relevant information as possible, rather than recording any assessment.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,108 Disability Gamechanger
    @thinkingsoul - as mentioned, phone assessments have actually gone well. However, from you're previous replies, you feel you'll get a paper based assessment like @samfits99 due to your previous history. You say that you get the enhanced rate for the daily living component, but feel you should also get the standard rate for the mobility component. I've tagged @samfits who has similar disorders & expectancies; you might be able to share notes. samfits appears to have sent their review form off last September, so might prove useful, tho it's a little confusing that they've just said they got their review form last Friday. Anyway, hope they might be helpful. :)
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    We've also got a couple of other members with similar stories as @samfits99 and @thinkingsoul. @ChloeHibbert and @Sandra_63 are the members i'm thinking of. Maybe you should all share notes,  this way you'll be able to help each other.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,425 Disability Gamechanger
    We've also got a couple of other members with similar stories as @samfits99 and @thinkingsoul. @ChloeHibbert and @Sandra_63 are the members i'm thinking of. Maybe you should all share notes,  this way you'll be able to help each other.
    @poppy123456 well spotted, maybe we should all save ourselves the effort !
    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • BrettWBrettW Member Posts: 607 Pioneering
    woodbine said:
    We've also got a couple of other members with similar stories as @samfits99 and @thinkingsoul. @ChloeHibbert and @Sandra_63 are the members i'm thinking of. Maybe you should all share notes,  this way you'll be able to help each other.
    @poppy123456 well spotted, maybe we should all save ourselves the effort !
    Save the effort of what?
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,108 Disability Gamechanger
    Sorry for any confusion @BrettW - we're just trying to help several members with very similar experiences connect with each other...hopefully they can. They've all received advice, but sometimes sharing their personal experiences might better help. :)
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,425 Disability Gamechanger
    chiarieds said:
    Sorry for any confusion @BrettW - we're just trying to help several members with very similar experiences connect with each other...hopefully they can. They've all received advice, but sometimes sharing their personal experiences might better help. :)
    You are far far more diplomatic than I could ever be  B)
    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • BrettWBrettW Member Posts: 607 Pioneering
    woodbine said:
    chiarieds said:
    Sorry for any confusion @BrettW - we're just trying to help several members with very similar experiences connect with each other...hopefully they can. They've all received advice, but sometimes sharing their personal experiences might better help. :)
    You are far far more diplomatic than I could ever be  B)
    Anyone who has ever moderated any sort of public discussion group will tell you that people will always ask the same questions over and over again. Some just don't bother to search through past posts and others simply aren't computer savvy enough to realise its an option. Either way it takes the right kind of attitude to give advice on such forums and maintain a professional approach at all times :smile:
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    BrettW said:
    woodbine said:
    chiarieds said:
    Sorry for any confusion @BrettW - we're just trying to help several members with very similar experiences connect with each other...hopefully they can. They've all received advice, but sometimes sharing their personal experiences might better help. :)
    You are far far more diplomatic than I could ever be  B)
    Anyone who has ever moderated any sort of public discussion group will tell you that people will always ask the same questions over and over again. Some just don't bother to search through past posts and others simply aren't computer savvy enough to realise its an option. Either way it takes the right kind of attitude to give advice on such forums and maintain a professional approach at all times :smile:

    They do yes but these members that have been tagged in this thread have such simialar stories, even as far as having paper assessments, to reviews and then even having their awards renewed after a phone call from a decision maker. Then some months later receiving even more review forms....
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • BrettWBrettW Member Posts: 607 Pioneering
    BrettW said:
    woodbine said:
    chiarieds said:
    Sorry for any confusion @BrettW - we're just trying to help several members with very similar experiences connect with each other...hopefully they can. They've all received advice, but sometimes sharing their personal experiences might better help. :)
    You are far far more diplomatic than I could ever be  B)
    Anyone who has ever moderated any sort of public discussion group will tell you that people will always ask the same questions over and over again. Some just don't bother to search through past posts and others simply aren't computer savvy enough to realise its an option. Either way it takes the right kind of attitude to give advice on such forums and maintain a professional approach at all times :smile:

    They do yes but these members that have been tagged in this thread have such simialar stories, even as far as having paper assessments, to reviews and then even having their awards renewed after a phone call from a decision maker. Then some months later receiving even more review forms....
    Yes I understand all that Poppy but that wasn't actually the point I was making if you read my post again :):smile:
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,425 Disability Gamechanger
    BrettW said:
    woodbine said:
    chiarieds said:
    Sorry for any confusion @BrettW - we're just trying to help several members with very similar experiences connect with each other...hopefully they can. They've all received advice, but sometimes sharing their personal experiences might better help. :)
    You are far far more diplomatic than I could ever be  B)
    Anyone who has ever moderated any sort of public discussion group will tell you that people will always ask the same questions over and over again. Some just don't bother to search through past posts and others simply aren't computer savvy enough to realise its an option. Either way it takes the right kind of attitude to give advice on such forums and maintain a professional approach at all times :smile:
    I have moderated a number of forums over the years going back to the mid 90's and the early AOL forums and more recently for a time one of the UK's largest MSE, the problem arises when the same people ask the same question on a number of ocassions, or when you get alter ego's having discussions on the same thread,if only it was as simple as you seem to think all would be well.  :)
    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • BrettWBrettW Member Posts: 607 Pioneering
    woodbine said:
    BrettW said:
    woodbine said:
    chiarieds said:
    Sorry for any confusion @BrettW - we're just trying to help several members with very similar experiences connect with each other...hopefully they can. They've all received advice, but sometimes sharing their personal experiences might better help. :)
    You are far far more diplomatic than I could ever be  B)
    Anyone who has ever moderated any sort of public discussion group will tell you that people will always ask the same questions over and over again. Some just don't bother to search through past posts and others simply aren't computer savvy enough to realise its an option. Either way it takes the right kind of attitude to give advice on such forums and maintain a professional approach at all times :smile:
    I have moderated a number of forums over the years going back to the mid 90's and the early AOL forums and more recently for a time one of the UK's largest MSE, the problem arises when the same people ask the same question on a number of ocassions, or when you get alter ego's having discussions on the same thread,if only it was as simple as you seem to think all would be well.  :)
    Regardless of the content of the forums like what you have stated above a certain level of professionalism should still be maintained. Ultimately anything said on these forums ultimately reflects back on Scope itself as they in fact offer these forum services 
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,425 Disability Gamechanger
    @BrettW I couldn't agree less if I tried, we are NOT professionals we are ordinary disabled people doing our best in our own time in our own way to help other ordinary disabled people, scope offers this service because it serves a great purpose it gives its members access to others like themselves 24/7, many of us even gave some of our time over Christmas to make sure there was somebody here to listen or a shoulder to cry on.
    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,108 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @BrettW - we were all trying to be polite & helpful, however several of us feel that some member(s) ask such similar questions so much that we believe they are the same person, as @woodbine mentions with their alter egos, which @poppy123456 picked up on. Now we would be most happy to chat with them about absolutely anything, & would help & support them as much as we could, but it becomes difficult if they don't want to. I'm not sure what we can possibly do, but would rather they were just able to be themselves rather than having so many persona.... of course that may be part of their disability. I hope that goes someway to answering your query.
    We are used to answering the same queries over, & over again, & Poppy probably does the majority of those...that in itself has never been a problem here.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Yes, i very often feel like a parrot but it's fine, i don't have a problem with that. Yes, members could use the search function but i also understand that some people have never been on a forum before. Others will come for advice because they have no where else to go and the first thing they do is ask the questions, rather than search.

    If people are lonely and need some support or just someone to talk to, there's always someone here. The coffee lounge has some great threads that people can join in with the discussions.

    We are not professionals and we don't get paid for the advice we give. We are disabled people that give our time freely to help others.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • BrettWBrettW Member Posts: 607 Pioneering
    I understand what you are saying @chiarieds but whether people are doing this voluntarily or not the bigger picture needs to be looked at. 

    Imagine a total newcomer coming to this forum and reading the first part of this thread and basically seeing people making statements about whether people giving advice should even bother with people. Do you think these people, who remember are probably feeling vulnerable and desperate for reassurance are going to feel like these forums are a welcoming place?

    They are not going to be aware of the situation and their first impressions of the forum are not going to be positive. This is why I said a certain level of professionalism needs to be maintained

    I know its annoying dealing with multiple accounts and repeated questions from the same people but there are many others coming to these forums who won't be aware of this situation

    The old adage of 'if you can't say anything good then don't say anything at all' really should be applied here

    Like it ir not when you make a comment on here people on the outside will ultimately see this as a reflection on Scope
  • BrettWBrettW Member Posts: 607 Pioneering
    @poppy123456 I totally agree with what you say and believe me the time people devote to this forum is greatly appreciated but there is a point to be made here.

    I've lost count of the times I've seen you post a comment on here seeing you put 'I've answered this for you on your other thread' which is a perfectly appropriate and professional way of approaching it. What isn't acceptable is seeing comments along the lines of 'I don't know why we bother!'

    I know its frustrating and maybe it would be a good idea to make a private FB group or something where you people can go and scream your heads off in private but here on the forums is not the place those sort of remarks should be
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,108 Disability Gamechanger
    I agree with you @BrettW - altho we are not professionals, what we say reflects upon Scope. I'm sorry if you've got a bad impression of us, or feel newcomers might too. That isn't our intent, honestly. However if people like Poppy & woodbine didn't comment then perhaps there would be very few comments, if any at all.
    If I may, I would ask you to look around the forum, to look at the advice given; the help & support, before judging us so badly, thank you. If you have continuing problems then please do contact the Scope team.
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,108 Disability Gamechanger
    Oof, where did Poppy say along the lines of, 'I don't know why we bother?' & I'm finding your comments becoming somewhat offensive. I would urge you to contact the Scope team with your issues, thank you.
  • BrettWBrettW Member Posts: 607 Pioneering
    edited January 18
  • BrettWBrettW Member Posts: 607 Pioneering
    Actually re-reading my comment i can see how you may have thought the second part of my comment was referencing poppy when in fact it wasn't. I was using poppy as an example of a perfect example of a good professional response the second part of the comment about coming across as not bothered was in relation to other comments in the thread not related to poppy. For that I apologise on not making my point clearer @chiarieds
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,108 Disability Gamechanger
    OK, thank you for that, as I know Poppy does her utmost to help. I'm very sorry if you have picked up on myself or others wrongly. I do know the time & effort members put in in trying to help. It's often difficult to make the contents of our words completely clear....you also inadvertently caused me distress, & I nearly reported your post for saying, 'it would be a good idea to make a private FB group or something where you people can go and scream your heads off in private but here on the forums is not the place those sort of remarks should be.'
    It was in the plural, & could only be about Poppy, woodbine & myself, or just us latter two. I hope, as I suggested, that you might look around the forum to see how much help we honestly try to give. Again, if you then have any concerns, please contact the Scope team. I'll not comment further, & wish you goodnight.
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,425 Disability Gamechanger
    @chiarieds you summed it up 100%correctly, between us you poppy and myself have over 30,000 post on this forum, suggest to me that we must be doing something right ! I think it unfair that a relative newcomer should feel the need to sit in judgement @BrettW. and tell us how we must behave !
    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • BrettWBrettW Member Posts: 607 Pioneering
    woodbine said:
    @chiarieds you summed it up 100%correctly, between us you poppy and myself have over 30,000 post on this forum, suggest to me that we must be doing something right ! I think it unfair that a relative newcomer should feel the need to sit in judgement @BrettW. and tell us how we must behave !
    Have a nice day
  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,322 Disability Gamechanger
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,425 Disability Gamechanger
    @BrettW thanks i'll try my best    @lisathomas50 i'm not sure bringing religion into it helps  :)
    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • CressidaCressida Member Posts: 828 Pioneering
    @woodbine please be aware you are much appreciated on the forum so please ignore the baiting. Best wishes.
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,425 Disability Gamechanger
    Cressida said:
    @woodbine please be aware you are much appreciated on the forum so please ignore the baiting. Best wishes.
    @Cressida Thank you, thats much appreciated, I'll do my best 
    John x
    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,322 Disability Gamechanger
    I dont care now can we just get on this is horrible 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    I dont care now can we just get on this is horrible 

    To be honest, it's a forum and probably the best i've ever been on. No matter which forum you use, there will always be people that don't get on, it's part of life. We are only human after all and no one is perfect.

    There's an ignore feature that members can use if they don't like a members comments, this way you won't see any of their comments. Although if you do this, i'd advise turning off thread notifications as well because otherwise you'll still get notifications even if someone is on your ignore list.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
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