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Rejected by WH Smith's!

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I made the fatal mistake of declaring my disability and the fact I can't work 50 hours a week due to carers etc.

It's supposed to be illegal to discriminate but they do it anyway!

I know it'd please Dad if I said "screw this I give up", but I am NOT proving the (Removed by moderator)

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MarkM88

Have you had any job/work support?

Lisatho11987777

@MrAllen1976 when you go on indeed type in part time work and your area its alot easier that way

cupcake88

@MrAllen1976.

I know the struggle of being disabled and job hunting I personally have stopped thinking bout work now as it’s not some thing I can do but it does worry me I’ll be discriminated against when iam ready but I will always tell the truth bout being disabled on the application form that’s me personally you will find the job for you don’t give up .

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lisathomas50 said:

@MrAllen1976 when you go on indeed type in part time work and your area its alot easier that way

I've been doing that most of last week and applying for stuff, but because my working hours are very specific due to the carers situation, I keep getting rejected because they want more flexibility to cover long hours.

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@MarkN88 I get work related support from a local Autism specific firm called Big Ambitions.

janer1967

Retail will always expect some flexibility in working hours as that is the nature of the business to deal with customer demands and to cover staff illness and holidays

They trade for long hours and expect staff to share out the more undeniable hours

I have said to you before in my personal opinion home working is your best option

No matter what we say to you you seem adamant you are discriminated against but places like wh Smith and others you have applied for would not do this

I always advocate declaring disabilities then st least you know it is out in the open so employers can support with reasonable adjustments

Have you ever had your cv checked over or had some training on job applications?

MarkM88

One thing I would say though is disclosing a disability should be done in the right way too.

Its not the place of your CV/Covering letter to declare this, in my opinion anyway.

If the equal opportunities side of an online application form asks if you have a disability, then yes, answer this honestly and if it asks what the nature of the disability is or what adjustments they could go on to provide then again answer honestly.

If on the other hand its a job on indeed that accept applications through indeed and basically ask for name, email, contact number and to attach a CV and covering letter, I personally wouldn't be declaring it on those and either following the application up with a separate email to their HR department, or waiting until as interview is offered and then declare you require reasonable adjustments under the equality act .

It would be worth reading this too:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/138118/Equality_Act_2010_-_Duty_on_employers_to_make_reasonable_adjustments_for....pdf

Take note of this text from that document too:

What if I can’t afford to make a particular reasonable adjustment, or if it’s not practical for me to do it?

You are only required to make adjustments that are reasonable in all the circumstances. Factors such as the cost and practicability of making an adjustment and the resources available to you may be taken into account in deciding what is reasonable. Ultimately, it is for an Employment Tribunal to decide, in the event of a claim of alleged unlawful disability discrimination, what adjustment should be made for a particular disabled employee, and whether you were correct to decline to make an adjustment on grounds of practicality or cost.

janer1967

Totally agree @MarkN88

People are under false impression that employers have to make reasonable adjustments they have to allow a request for them and consider them but if not practical so as such not reasonable for them as an organisation they do not have to put them in place

Also agree only declare fidnoloty st application if you are asked the question or expect adjustments at application stage

I would not put it on cv or covering letter

@MrAllen1976 fails to accept is how hard it is for anyone at present to get a job there are more applicants than jobs and with his restricted working hours it will not help when other applicants have more flexibility

This I'd not discrimination just a major requirement for most retail roles

MarkM88

Yes, there are definitely more people applying, there was an article in the local newspaper a while back during the start of all of this that one employer advertised a bog standard entry level admin role basically paying min wage and they had 600 applications through Indeed and from very experienced individuals with decades of experience, highly qualified people that had lost their jobs.

Lisatho11987777

@MrAllen1976 I am on job support with scope and my cv includes my disability as its advised to that as it shows honesty and transparency from the beginning

I have applied for several jobs but I don't expect to have replies for all of them as I know that there are more experienced people than myself applying .

My job support is also arranging computer training remotely and other short courses to help get me where I want to be

I am at the moment applying for jobs outside of my comfort zone but jobs I have done before do fit into the jobs I am applying for one way or another

Applying for jobs is an experience in itself and xsn be frustrating today in job support I have done some changes in my cv and I have applied for jobs it just takes time and patience @MrAllen1976

I am 58 trying to do a job change but its an exciting challenge and that's how you should look at it as a challenge that you embrace and will participate to prove your worth as a person with disabilities that is able to work if given the chance to prove they are capable and willing to do the job

[Deleted User]

I have carers, any time I lose with them would be permanently removed by the social services.. I still want to work though, part time but my working has to work around the carers.

MarkM88

lisathomas50 said:

@MrAllen1976 I am on job support with scope and my cv includes my disability as its advised to that as it shows honesty and transparency from the beginning

I totally agree with honesty and transparency. However I believe there is a right moment to declare a disability and wouldn't agree the CV is the right place to declare it.

However, everyone has their own opinions, and I respect yours.

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lisathomas50 said:

@MrAllen1976 I am on job support with scope and my cv includes my disability as its advised to that as it shows honesty and transparency from the beginning

I have applied for several jobs but I don't expect to have replies for all of them as I know that there are more experienced people than myself applying .

My job support is also arranging computer training remotely and other short courses to help get me where I want to be

I am at the moment applying for jobs outside of my comfort zone but jobs I have done before do fit into the jobs I am applying for one way or another

Applying for jobs is an experience in itself and xsn be frustrating today in job support I have done some changes in my cv and I have applied for jobs it just takes time and patience @MrAllen1976

I am 58 trying to do a job change but its an exciting challenge and that's how you should look at it as a challenge that you embrace and will participate to prove your worth as a person with disabilities that is able to work if given the chance to prove they are capable and willing to do the job

That's the kicker though, I am applying for stuff I could do in my sleep, but there's still the disability issues and the restriction that I can't work daft hours due to the carers.

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MarkN88 said:

lisathomas50 said:

@MrAllen1976 I am on job support with scope and my cv includes my disability as its advised to that as it shows honesty and transparency from the beginning

I totally agree with honesty and transparency. However I believe there is a right moment to declare a disability and wouldn't agree the CV is the right place to declare it.

However, everyone has their own opinions, and I respect yours.

Definitely don't declare on your CV, otherwise it'll get insta-binned without even being read.

Lisatho11987777

@MarkN88 I follow advice but I have always disclosed my disability in my cover letter though on my cv

I have worked most of my life only been out of work since last march

I am facing a new challenge of changing jobs at the age of 58 ? lol but been pleasantly surprised as I have been shorted listed for 4 jobs today and three interested and need to fill in additional information do fingers crossed ?lol

@MrAllen1976 are you looking for work to earn extra money or because you want something to do,?

Also we're you hsveing care when you were doing voluntary work? If so how did you work around it then and if you worked would you need the carers all day? You don't have to answer I am just trying to help with solutions for you ?

MarkM88

@lisathomas50

Im pleased to hear the good news - good luck.

Lisatho11987777

@MarkN88 thank you

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woodbine said:

@MrAllen1976 I suspect you might not like me saying this, but, if you are so reliant on carers how do you expect to go out to work? I'm not having a go just genuinely interested at how you expect to square that circle. As @janer1967 says it sounds like some sort of home working would be ideal.

Home working would be an option but even they expect you to work full time, which I can't do.. I looked into being an Avon rep last year, and because I don't drive deliveries etc would be a nightmare, and my customer base would also be very limited as all my neighbours at the Flats have varying degrees of mental and physical disability.

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Also, my reasons for wanting to work are for something to keep me occupied and also a bit of extra spending money wouldn't go amiss.

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lisathomas50 said:

@MarkN88 I follow advice but I have always disclosed my disability in my cover letter though on my cv

I have worked most of my life only been out of work since last march

I am facing a new challenge of changing jobs at the age of 58 ? lol but been pleasantly surprised as I have been shorted listed for 4 jobs today and three interested and need to fill in additional information do fingers crossed ?lol

@MrAllen1976 are you looking for work to earn extra money or because you want something to do,?

Also we're you hsveing care when you were doing voluntary work? If so how did you work around it then and if you worked would you need the carers all day? You don't have to answer I am just trying to help with solutions for you ?

Pre lockdown I used to work around the carers, like they came for the afternoon shift at 2 PM, I'd work 10 while 2 and they'd meet me at work and then we'd go off and do whatever.

Hopefully post lockdown I'll be able to go back to doing that.