Corona virus

Lisatho11987777

@cartha wales closed a couple of schools in holyhead already and we had a slight rise in cases today so maybe to soon I think 

cartha

@lisathomas50 I don't understand why they start with schools because they are the best place for a virus to transmit to other people then they take it home to their relatives. I suppose they think that getting children to school will get the parents back to work. A lockdown has to be done properly or the virus will keep surfacing and mutating.

Lisatho11987777

Precautions still have to be taken as its not 100 percent and lots of people still haven't had it and some can't have it and some have refused to have it 

I think its just a waiting game to see how it pans out 

Lisatho11987777

@cartha the scientists said if they don't do it slow we will have a third wave by May  holyhead have had a rise and swansea and myther Tydfil  we will see 

cartha

Israel are ahead of us in vaccinations but it seems they are yet to experience a decent effect. I suppose we need to wait about a month after vaccines are done. As for people not taking the vaccine, those of us willing to take it can only do our best to protect ourselves and our families. I think us old fogies should be the ones to be allowed to get together first, as we will be the first to be immunised. Who's up for a geriatric rave in the middle of the Welsh nowheres in a month or so? ;-)

cartha

I've now got images of @woodbine chasing anti-vaxxers with a dart gun ;-)

I would prefer people are educated into taking a vaccine than forced to take it. Being forced to take it is only going to add fuel to all the conspiracy arguments. Maybe they could add it to our water without saying anything ;-)

Even if it does turn out that a tiny percentage of people get a blood clot from taking the vaccine, wouldn't those same people be likely to be in a serious way or dead if they caught the full virus, as that is one of the things it causes?  I think some of these people with a fear of the vaccine need to decide if they would prefer a pin **** now or wait for the knife wound later.

Lisatho11987777

Mike good way to explain 

Lisatho11987777

@cartha my personal opinion is the virus will run its course and get to weak and then will only be a seasonal thing I don't belive it will go away and a yearly vacinstion like they do with the flu 

It's been going a year now and I belive what the scientists say but we as people can keep ourselves and our family safe  

Lisatho11987777

Mike is that the same with the flu vacination  from my understanding the common cold is a type of corona virus they havrnt found a cure for that please correct me if I am wrong 

chiarieds

Blood clots following Astra Zeneca vaccines debunked: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-regulator-confirms-that-people-should-continue-to-receive-the-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca

So, yes, we do indeed need as many people as possible to get vaccinated to both reduce their likelihood of getting a severe reaction to Covid-19, & to hope these vaccinations will reduce the transmissibility of this virus. As mentioned above, we don't as yet have enough studies to indicate this as yet. Hopefully we will know more in the coming months.

Lisatho11987777

Only time will tell but I think Mike explained it realy well 

cartha

Over time we should live better with the virus, like we do with influenza. The main thing is to reduce the deaths. I have always had to be careful with my elderly parents, and always stayed away from them when I had a cold or something. Even myself, I was was very ill for two long years after my daughter started school. That was also around the time swine flu was doing its rounds so who knows what I was picking up. I have a few chest infections, and now when I get a cold I have to have antibiotics for my cough or it doesn't go away. I used to smoke so that may have weakened my lungs first.

Influenza is also a corona virus, yes. The only cure is to keep all humans apart until all have recovered.

cartha

chiarieds said:

Blood clots following Astra Zeneca vaccines debunked: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-regulator-confirms-that-people-should-continue-to-receive-the-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca

So, yes, we do indeed need as many people as possible to get vaccinated to both reduce their likelihood of getting a severe reaction to Covid-19, & to hope these vaccinations will reduce the transmissibility of this virus. As mentioned above, we don't as yet have enough studies to indicate this as yet. Hopefully we will know more in the coming months.

There is a current study to see if Astra Zeneca is causing blood clots in the brain but even if it does turn out to be the cause, it happens in something like 0.001% of people taking the vaccine, so I'm guessing that tiny percentage could be prone to blood clot problems anyway and may suffer far more if they caught the virus. I know that current studies have shown a reduction in blood clots for people taking the Astra Zeneca but that is clots in the legs and lungs? From what I remember. Either way, it's a very small percentage of people so no reason for the masses to not take the vaccine.

@lisathomas50 How is your granddaughter doing now?

Lisatho11987777

@cartha I belive if they just kept us in lockdown until all the vacinstions have been done and the R is all the way down I think in my opinion we might stand a better chance 

Lisatho11987777

@cartha she said she doesnt feel the same but she is better 

cartha

@lisathomas50 Yes, that's all we can do really. I'm off to bed now. G'night all :-)

Lisatho11987777

@cartha night ?