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I never received an esa50 form. I've been told they might have used my PIP form instead?

bobt10bobt10 Member Posts: 20 Listener
i got told i should of received an esa50 form to fill out never received yet after numerous conversations with them they said they have received one from me phoned them back yesterday lady i spoke to said they coulld have used my PIP form which PIP receive 25/01/21 appeal gone to pip condition changed
how can the ESA do this as my medical condition gone worse and i need to send my own statement n medical reports
advice ta


  • janer1967janer1967 Member Posts: 11,008 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi there 

    I think someone is getting confused thinking they have your form when it is your PIP form they have 

    You are right they are different benefits with different criteria and should be treated as such which is normally the case 

    I don't know the solution other than maybe asking to speak to a case manager rather than a call handler 
  • bobt10bobt10 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    just been on phone again to ESA to get right of access for form to be sent back but they dont have access to form some company called CHARDER  have my information what a load of 

  • bart70bart70 Member Posts: 48 Courageous
    They can not use your esa form for pip or vice versa. Esa is to see if you are fit to work and pip is how your illness affects your day to day living. So they are two different assessments. However someone I know who works for the DWP has told me both will cross reference the other assessment to make sure they match up with what you are saying. 

    For example I know someone with hip problems who was deemed unfit for work at her WCA for esa but failed her pip when they proved at assessment she could move better than what she was saying... they then changed her esa decision to fit to work..... it should be said that this was her own fault as she walked out of the pip assessment and did a little dance outside!! 

    But they can not make a WCA decision based on your pip as it has different criteria. Hope this helps. 
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,533 Disability Gamechanger
    Actually they can and do use the ESA reports for PIP and vice verse. Nothing to prohibit it but obviously the only relevance is where there is some overlap. However, I suspect that’s not what’s going on here. The call centre may have been current. DWP have a new prices around vulnerability markers and some people will go through the PIP or ESA process without ever receiving an ESA 50 or a PIP2 because DWP will use what they already have. 
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