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Will you continue to wear a facemask after the 19th July?

Tori_ScopeTori_Scope Posts: 5,020

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edited July 17 in Disabled people
BBC News: Coronavirus: When can we stop wearing face masks or coverings?

Last night, PM Boris Johnson confirmed that mandatory mask-wearing is due to end in England on 19th July 2021.
People will still be encouraged to use face coverings in crowded places, such as shops and on public transport to help stop the spread of Covid, but there will be no legal requirement or fines if they opt not to.
Some people are keen to see the back of wearing facemasks, whereas others are worried it's still too soon.

What do you think? Will you be wearing a facemask or covering after the 19th July?


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Will you continue to wear a facemask after the 19th July? 46 votes

Yes, I'll continue to wear my facemask or covering at least some of the time
67%
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No, I won't be wearing my facemask or covering at all
15%
woodbineMsbettyboopCACIrishMancMrBBAnxietyPlusLoveLife 7 votes
Unsure
2%
OverlyAnxious 1 vote
I'm exempt from wearing a facemask or covering
15%
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  • 66Mustang66Mustang Community Co-Production Group Posts: 5,093 Disability Gamechanger
    Yes, I'll continue to wear my facemask or covering at least some of the time
    I will continue to wear a face mask.

    I'm guilty of being more worried about the economy than most people are, most are worried about individuals, and so I was excited to see the easing of restrictions like lockdowns and seeing the economy get back to normal.

    However wearing a face mask causes no hardship to the economy or businesses. It doesn't affect the economy like lockdowns do so I don't see a reason not to wear one. Surely better to carry on "business as usual" but with masks on, than potentially go into another lockdown.

    I also like the 2 meter rule and will be continuing to maintain distance, and I hope sanitising stations in supermarkets and shops stay as well.
  • Emilyb81Emilyb81 Member Posts: 450 Pioneering
    I'm exempt from wearing a facemask or covering
    I am exempt but I wear one when/if I'm able to? I definitely think this and using hand sanitizer etc will be good to keep doing if we choose to because it will stop so many people catching other things like colds if already vulnerable hopefully? I think children will be washing their hands more now too which is also a good thing 👍😊
  • Emilyb81Emilyb81 Member Posts: 450 Pioneering
    I'm exempt from wearing a facemask or covering
    Hospital, doctors and chemist are the places I try my best to keep it on for now I don't really go anywhere else anyway?  Think the 2 meter rule is also another good thing if around strangers etc 👍
  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,352 Disability Gamechanger
    Yes, I'll continue to wear my facemask or covering at least some of the time
    If I lived in England I would still wear a mask still social distance thank god the Welsh government have more sense 
  • Ami2301Ami2301 Community Co-Production Group Posts: 7,751 Disability Gamechanger
    Yes, I'll continue to wear my facemask or covering at least some of the time
    I'll still be wearing a mask for the foreseeable
    Disability Gamechanger - 2019
  • Jean EveleighJean Eveleigh Member Posts: 134 Pioneering
    Yes, I'll continue to wear my facemask or covering at least some of the time
    I will still be wearing my face mask and also being just as careful on going out as I was before as I am still Clinically Extremely Vulnerable to COVID.

    I have a friend who is very sick with it right now despite being double vaccinated, if she wasn't she would be in hospital and maybe worse right now.

    AND I have no confidence in "common sense" although not in the UK I admit this is what "common sense" does ---  https://uk.yahoo.com/news/covid-free-dance-party-infects-130638194.html

    They (the club organizers) did everything the Municipal Health Authorities told them to do before opening on June 26: require all customers to present vaccine certificates or negative COVID-19 tests. No face masks or social distancing was required for the revelers.

    What they apparently didn’t account for was how desperate the customers were to dance. So far, 165 of the 650 nightclub goers have tested positive for the virus despite the precautions. Now they know that many of those who attended shared screengrabs of Q-codes or negative tests and the bouncers didn’t notice.
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,498 Disability Gamechanger
    No, I won't be wearing my facemask or covering at all
    I won't be doing so, can't stand the things, having said that don't mix with loads of people.
    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • DuninnDuninn Member Posts: 58 Connected
    Hell yes I will continue to wear a mask and actively encourage friends to as well 
  • foryoureyesonlyforyoureyesonly Member Posts: 21 Listener
    Yes, I'll continue to wear my facemask or covering at least some of the time
    Yeah why not its our choice though i hope there's no business owners who get annoyed  like in some conservative places in the us save lives not political stands anyway many people even shop workers don't bother even know.


  • deb74deb74 Member Posts: 766 Pioneering
    I'm exempt from wearing a facemask or covering
    I live in Wales and the Welsh government haven't decided on a date for easing restrictions yet. I am exempt from wearing a mask  but I know a lot of people who are getting fed up with having to wear a mask.
  • SupernanmaSupernanma Member Posts: 40 Connected
    Yes, I'll continue to wear my facemask or covering at least some of the time
    BBC News: Coronavirus: When can we stop wearing face masks or coverings?

    Last night, PM Boris Johnson confirmed that mandatory mask-wearing is due to end in England on 19th July 2021.
    People will still be encouraged to use face coverings in crowded places, such as shops and on public transport to help stop the spread of Covid, but there will be no legal requirement or fines if they opt not to.
    Some people are keen to see the back of wearing facemasks, whereas others are worried it's still too soon.

    What do you think? Will you be wearing a facemask or covering after the 19th July?


    My sister in law has had both vaccines, and has still contracted this new variant. She feel pretty ill, and that's with having vaccines, so I think that the Government are wrong. I think we should wear them at least until the new year. 
  • kmichealm68kmichealm68 Member Posts: 2 Listener
    I’ve got asthma, so haven’t worn a face mask during the so called “pandemic”.
    What exactly is the point of wearing a mask, when your just as likely to catch even wearing a mask.
    how come at the beginning of the this crisis, both of the chief & deputy medical officers openly stated that face masks made no difference as to whether you caught the “virus” or not 
    So as the guidelines now state a mask is not required, so have the so called new “virus strains” now disappeared, it’s utterly ridiculous that we’ve been under such draconian conditions for almost 18 months. 
    Boris & SAGE should be taken to court for denying us our civil rights.
  • kev1kev1 Member Posts: 165 Courageous
    I will only wear one in places where required to do so
  • kmichealm68kmichealm68 Member Posts: 2 Listener
    So if she’s caught it despite having both vaccines doesn’t that speak volumes for said Covid vaccines, I’d say it’s a complete disaster Supernanma said:
    BBC News: Coronavirus: When can we stop wearing face masks or coverings?

    Last night, PM Boris Johnson confirmed that mandatory mask-wearing is due to end in England on 19th July 2021.
    People will still be encouraged to use face coverings in crowded places, such as shops and on public transport to help stop the spread of Covid, but there will be no legal requirement or fines if they opt not to.
    Some people are keen to see the back of wearing facemasks, whereas others are worried it's still too soon.

    What do you think? Will you be wearing a facemask or covering after the 19th July?


    My sister in law has had both vaccines, and has still contracted this new variant. She feel pretty ill, and that's with having vaccines, so I think that the Government are wrong. I think we should wear them at least until the new year. 

  • IrishMancIrishManc Member Posts: 38 Courageous
    No, I won't be wearing my facemask or covering at all
    I’ve got asthma, so haven’t worn a face mask during the so called “pandemic”.
    What exactly is the point of wearing a mask, when your just as likely to catch even wearing a mask.
    how come at the beginning of the this crisis, both of the chief & deputy medical officers openly stated that face masks made no difference as to whether you caught the “virus” or not 
    So as the guidelines now state a mask is not required, so have the so called new “virus strains” now disappeared, it’s utterly ridiculous that we’ve been under such draconian conditions for almost 18 months. 
    Boris & SAGE should be taken to court for denying us our civil rights.
    I’ve come to agree with this and doing voluntary work in England where I live, I’ve always respected people’s exemptions without asking for evidence of exemptions, as personally, I find breathing in masks a little difficult - I know there is still massive social/peer pressure to wear them still as being “awake” to a lot of this stuff, the scientific evidence does say that they are dangerous, not helpful, same applies to vaccines (I’ve had both) but that is only because of the relentless pressure to test and vaccinate - however back home in the Republic of Ireland this is far worse, as the Gardai (police) have been tasked with the (unlimited) enforcement of the HSE’s (NHS) and NEPHET’s (Sage) guidelines (rules) as our Taoiseach in Dáil Éireann has given the Gardai massively increased enforcement powers under the (amended) Irish mental treatment act and the 3rd jab looks set to be mandatory in Ireland, not just for travel purposes, as our Irish restrictions are already the strictest in Europe - I’d been hoping to go home to Ireland this summer but it’s too expensive and cumbersome, even on SailRail through Holyhead in Wales or by air through Northern Ireland and train or coach into the Republic as the Garda checkpoints are everywhere, border crossings, ports and airports  where a smartphone is (effectively) a legal requirement now - the NHS Vaccine Passport app is not valid in Ireland either, only the EU one and the Health Passport Ireland App, despite the Common Travel Area between the U.K. and Ireland and it’s virtually impossible to get any clarity from the Irish government on travel restrictions aside from a potential new date for lifting all restrictions by Jan 2022 even though I’ve always held an Irish passport in the almost 20 years I’ve lived in the U.K. 
  • LithaRiddleLithaRiddle Member Posts: 8 Listener
    Yes, I'll continue to wear my facemask or covering at least some of the time
    Yes! I love my masks especially since I've had long Covid since I got infected in late February. I love that they keep my loved ones safe from myself if I'm infected. I'm actually lucky to be alive after getting Emphysematous Cholecystitis as a result of Covid. I'd much rather spare my 11 year old son the possibility of getting Covid because of me. I've had my double vaccine but there isn't one available yet for him. 
  • Emilyb81Emilyb81 Member Posts: 450 Pioneering
    edited July 15
    I'm exempt from wearing a facemask or covering
    I hate it when people say things like "so called pandemic" because its so disrespectful to anyone who has had covid or lost someone to it? ☹️ Sorry just needed to get that out as been seeing it for months in different comments sections etc? People saying its not real etc! Its just so insulting for people who's lives have been affected in some way ☹️ but i guess everyone is entitled to their opinion! Take care and stay safe xx
  • Emilyb81Emilyb81 Member Posts: 450 Pioneering
    I'm exempt from wearing a facemask or covering
    @kmichealm68 they didnt have enough information about the spread of the virus in beginning? So mistakes have been made and corrected asap ? Thats why they first said masks don't stop or help the spread of covid?! There have been many trials since and they prove it does stop spreading of it so thats why they since have said its important to wear one! 
    And the only reason they are now letting people move away from wearing one is because they are constantly being harassed by people wanting to "go back to normal"?! Same as the kids back to school situation! Honestly the government are doing what they know to do and trying their best to please everyone! None of them have dealt with anything like this before and It doesnt matter what party they're in nobody wants anyone dying unnecessarily!
    Lastly the vaccine doesnt stop people getting it it makes it less likely they will die if they do! I am glad i had both of my jabs anything that helps me move away from being scared of dying a horrible death each time i leave my home is good in my opinion? But as i said its just that my opinion and you have yours & thats fine just wish it didnt have to come across so insulting to those who have been badly affected by it all? But that seems to always be the case when people don't believe in the pandemic or the government etc so nowt i can do about it 👍 anyway sorry for my opinions at 6am its a bit early i know 😂 have a fab day peeps and stay safe 🤞🍀👍
  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,352 Disability Gamechanger
    Yes, I'll continue to wear my facemask or covering at least some of the time
    The government haven't said that you can't catch the virus after two vacinations and they advised people to still wear a mask and keep your distance 

    It's people's choice though in wales we still have to wear masks and keep our distance and I still would fo the same if the government said we didn't have to  then it would be a person's choice and I would accept which ever way people wanted to go with it 


  • Tori_ScopeTori_Scope Posts: 5,020

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    edited July 16
    Hi @kmichealm68,
    What exactly is the point of wearing a mask, when your just as likely to catch even wearing a mask
    From my understanding, wearing a mask is more about preventing the transmission of coronavirus, rather than stopping you from getting it, if that makes sense. 
    People with the virus, sometimes unaware that they have itspread it through respiratory droplets that are exhaled when they cough, sneeze, sing, talk or breathe - and these droplets are then inhaled by somebody else.

    According to a number of laboratory tests and multiple studies, the main value from wearing face masks is that they block up to 80% of these droplets from escaping into the air. They may also prevent about 50% of droplets from being inhaled too.
    (Sky News explainer)
    how come at the beginning of the this crisis, both of the chief & deputy medical officers openly stated that face masks made no difference as to whether you caught the “virus” or not 

    This is a fair point in some ways, and something that has made some people skeptical of the effectiveness of masks. There are a number of factors that could have contributed towards the original messaging that masks might not be that effective in helping to combat the spread of coronavirus. The important thing is that the evidence does now seem to show that, in partnership with other preventative measures, face masks and coverings play an important role in preventing the transmission of coronavirus.

    So as the guidelines now state a mask is not required, so have the so called new “virus strains” now disappeared,
    No.
    In England, the legal requirement to wear a face covering in enclosed public spaces ends. But government guidance says it "expects and recommends" the continued wearing of masks in crowded areas such as public transport.
    (BBC)

    Some places have also announced that they'll be continuing to encourage visitors to wear face masks or coverings to be on the safe side, such as Sainsburys, Tesco, and Waterstones.

    The newer variants of coronavirus are very much still present, making the government's announcement somewhat controversial. You can see some data about the variants on this gov.uk page.

    Of course, those who are exempt from wearing a face mask or covering are still not required to wear one. 
    So if she’s caught it despite having both vaccines doesn’t that speak volumes for said Covid vaccines, I’d say it’s a complete disaster

    It's well known that the vaccines aren't 100% effective, and the coronavirus vaccines are no different. However, they're playing an important role in reducing the spread of coronavirus, as well as reducing the severity of coronavirus symptoms in those who do unfortunately still catch the virus.

    The COVID-19 vaccine that you have had has been shown to reduce the chance of you suffering from COVID-19 disease. Each vaccine has been tested in more than 20,000 people and many have also been used in many different countries.

    It may take a few weeks for your body to build up some protection from the vaccine. Like all medicines, no vaccine is completely effective, so you should continue to take recommended precautions to avoid infection. Some people may still get COVID-19 despite having a vaccination, but this should be less severe.

    (gov.uk)

    This is why it's still important that we all remain vigilant in being careful not to spread the virus where possible.

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  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,181 Disability Gamechanger
    Yes, I'll continue to wear my facemask or covering at least some of the time
    I might not put it 'quite' as strongly as @Emilyb81 - but I think it could safely be said that we are in the midst of a pandemic, i.e. an epidemic of an infectious disease that spreads across many countries & which also affects many people. With over 4 million deaths worldwide, including 128 thousand deaths in the UK, I feel these figures speak for themselves.
  • Emilyb81Emilyb81 Member Posts: 450 Pioneering
    I'm exempt from wearing a facemask or covering
    Yeah sorry i was maybe a bit too in yer face with it but everyone in my family caught it and are still poorly now  so i guess i just take it too personally but i do that in general anyway 👍😊 hope i didnt offend anyone! Xx
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,181 Disability Gamechanger
    Yes, I'll continue to wear my facemask or covering at least some of the time
    Nothing to apologise for @Emilyb81 - I just don't say/feel I 'hate' anything.....tho I might dislike it intensely! :(  I think we're all agreed that everyone can usually have an opinion, but the truth matters over Covid-19. Tori I see has just given links backing up what you'd said. I hope your family improve soon. :)
  • Tori_ScopeTori_Scope Posts: 5,020

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    Best wishes to your family @Emilyb81 :) 
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  • Emilyb81Emilyb81 Member Posts: 450 Pioneering
    I'm exempt from wearing a facemask or covering
    Thankyou @chiarieds    i am not so much sorry for what i said but sorry  because i didnt mean it to come across [email protected]? Im not saying anyone has made me feel that way its just I often read things i've typed and think ooops 🤦🏻 but i cant delete them on here lol so i am trying to learn to read several times before i post and didnt do that this time unfortunately 👍😊 maybe another thing i need to try harder with is not to post an instant reaction? Maybe thinking it through first when in different headspace would be better in general not just for others but for myself too because i end up cringing at myself a lot 😂🤦🏻🤷 nevermind i am still learning every day! So its all good! As long as i havent made anyone feel attacked its ok ? I guess its always going to be hard where loved ones are involved?
    And thankyou @Tori_Scope i meant to say some are still poorly not all of them! But appreciate the good wishes ☀️🌺🌻🌼 xx
  • MrBBMrBB Member Posts: 1 Listener
    No, I won't be wearing my facemask or covering at all
    I won’t be wearing a mask because I couldn’t be bothered if I get Covid and it kills me because my son was murdered by a drunk speeding driver in April so my life is hell and I would be only too happy to join him
  • nikki74nikki74 Member Posts: 0 Listener
    edited July 17
    I do not want to wear a mask any longer after July 19th as as far as I am concerned I have been fully vaccinated and therefore dont see myself as posing a risk to others.
  • daz2daz2 Member, Community Co-Production Group Posts: 28 Courageous
    edited July 16
    I will carry on wearing one where I'm told to. Shops  for example, maybe for a while on trains & buses & then stop. I don't really want to wear a facemask in pubs or the cinema. There are three pubs  near where me & my wife live and all three have said that people don't need to wear facemasks if they don't want to from Monday . One wasn't really happy about the rules so people sometimes came in without a mask. I don't really want to get to the point where wearing facemasks has become the norm & there are still places in 2025 saying you must wear a mask before you enter. 
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,181 Disability Gamechanger
    Yes, I'll continue to wear my facemask or covering at least some of the time
    Hi @MrBB - I'm so very, very sorry about your son. It's a long time ago, but we lost our youngest daughter when she was 23 months old. However, much as I know how that made me feel (& still does), I can't imagine losing a child in the way you have suffered. Your son wouldn't want you to die a horrible death due to Covid, but to live on remembering him.
    You would think after all these years I might find the words to help you; I'm not sure I can. I hope you had the privilege of seeing your son grow up, & got to know him as a young adult. That doesn't make it any the easier tho, I'm sure. Your loss is great, but your bond of love is even greater; I know I feel I carry my youngest daughter forever in my heart, & think about her every day.....to me it's a precious burden. I hope you have family &/friends that can support you.
  • janer1967janer1967 Member Posts: 11,201 Disability Gamechanger
    Yes, I'll continue to wear my facemask or covering at least some of the time
    Hi and welcome to the community 

    There is a post in recent discussions about masks you might be interested in 
  • lunapetunia2lunapetunia2 Member Posts: 6 Connected
    Yes, I'll continue to wear my facemask or covering at least some of the time
    I am grateful to be in Wales! Yes, I am still CEV, so will carry on wearing a mask indoors everywhere except home.and outdoors whenever it feels crowded, close or unsafe. Hand gel is my best friend!
  • Emilyb81Emilyb81 Member Posts: 450 Pioneering
    I'm exempt from wearing a facemask or covering
    ❤️❤️❤️
  • rubin16rubin16 Member Posts: 99 Pioneering
    Yes, I'll continue to wear my facemask or covering at least some of the time
    I don't go out often due to anxiety, but when and if I do I will be wearing a mask. I'm going to continue wearing a mask till atleast next year or when the cases are really low again. But I think we could have another wave if people go in groups again without masks so we'll be under another lockdown if were not careful.

    Also its kinda become habit now to sanitise hands before entering anywhere and making sure I have my mask with me before leaving the house.
  • EdikieEdikie Member Posts: 3 Listener
    edited July 17
    I think it should not be necessary or essential  beacuse  some people in shops or buses are not wearing one and if there still be lockdowns dispite vaccination and mask wearig that I have been wearing then what’s the point 

    I don’t like face mask I At all beacuse it’s sometimes hard to breath in also I’m really excepted beacuse I have a disability myself if still have to wear face covering then I will wear a face sheild or exempt badge.

    So that’s how I feel about them but
    But if it will cost further lockdowns then I will regret not wearing
  • BadbunnyBadbunny Member Posts: 3 Connected
    My husband and I are vulnerable to Covid - he was on the shielding list, having had a stroke and having high blood pressure and diabetes.  I have post-viral ME and asthma.  We are going to continue to wear masks and distance, minimise contact with other people, etc.  I no longer go mooching around the shops - just get the basics at quiet times - and the  only place I go for leisure is the swimming pool as it helps my fibromyalgia and I can't exercise on land and chlorine kills viruses.
  • LoveLifeLoveLife Member Posts: 5 Listener
    edited July 17
    No, I won't be wearing my facemask or covering at all

    Myself and my teens have never worn a mask, been tested or [Removed by moderator - misinformation about vaccines]. I've done lots of research, and all go against my health. Since May 20 I've attended freedom gatherings in London, last month there were 2 million of us Truthers, not one death reported from the [Removed by moderator – offensive term]. [Removed by moderator - misinformation about the coronavirus vaccines]. My anxiety swells seeing the masked faces, mumbling under their muzzles is very hard for me and getting harassed with shop staff doing their poorly paid policing. But I will always stand up for my god given human rights. We all have free choice and [Removed by moderator - misinformation about Agenda 2030]. Wake up world to the propaganda and false narrative. Do not trust strangers with your life. Namaste

  • eleanorhippyeleanorhippy Member Posts: 17 Connected
    I live in Wales where the dates are different. I will be wear a mask after this. 
  • CACCAC Member Posts: 6 Connected
    edited July 17
    No, I won't be wearing my facemask or covering at all

    I have PTSD as a result of abuse and torture by the NHS as a tiny child in the 1950's, can supply more info if asked, so I have been stuck inside as I cannot stand to see a face mask on someone.  I am exempt from wearing one, but I had to fight for that and still they refuse to put it in writing.  I have often felt suicidal during this nonsense.  Come Monday I will be out shopping and living my life as I always have with no facemasks ever again.  [Removed by moderator – misinformation about face masks].  [Removed by moderator - false claim], there are no words to adequately express my feelings. [Removed by moderator - misinformation about the coronavirus vaccines].

  • alex72alex72 Member Posts: 14 Listener
    Yes, I'll continue to wear my facemask or covering at least some of the time
    i will always wear a mask i think we will always have to be careful  when we go out i suffer pad. peripheral  arterial disease.and heart problems.i still go out. when i can i am always in pain but i will never give in to it same with this virus its not going to ruin my life. what i have left of it.i cant stand being cooped inside especially living alone also i am lucky to have very good neighbours and family.they always look in on me to make sure i am ok. as for washing masks i have washable ones i dont put them in the washing machine i soak them in bleach and hang them up to dry so CAC dont use that as an excuse for not wearing a mask and yes i have had both injections even though they said there could be problems with blood clots i still had mine even though i have problems with said blood clots.my family and friends are my priority keeping them safe its just common sense.
  • janer1967janer1967 Member Posts: 11,201 Disability Gamechanger
    Yes, I'll continue to wear my facemask or covering at least some of the time
    Hi and welcome to the community 

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the wearing of masks 
  • LithaRiddleLithaRiddle Member Posts: 8 Listener
    Yes, I'll continue to wear my facemask or covering at least some of the time
    Emilyb81 said:
    Yeah sorry i was maybe a bit too in yer face with it but everyone in my family caught it and are still poorly now  so i guess i just take it too personally but i do that in general anyway 👍😊 hope i didnt offend anyone! Xx
    You don't need to apologise. My 31 year old step brother died in November because of Covid. He left behind two children who will now grow up without their father. People calling it 'so called' and 'scamdemic' are insulting to his memory. :( 
  • Tori_ScopeTori_Scope Posts: 5,020

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    edited July 17
    Thread closed pending review.

    Edit

    I've reopened the thread for the time being. I created the poll because I wanted to encourage some discussion over the easing of lockdown restrictions, namely mask wearing, in England, and find our what your views are. I think it's possible for us to maintain civil discussion and debate here, so I'd like to try and keep the thread open if possible.

    I'd like to remind all members to check that the information they're posting is accurate to the best of their ability, backed up with credible evidence where possible. It's also important that all members refrain from presenting opinion as fact, as stated in our house rules.

    We will close the thread permanently if the discussion gets out of hand. 
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  • Tori_ScopeTori_Scope Posts: 5,020

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    Hi @LoveLife,

    I've removed parts of your comment that contained misinformation about vaccines, the coronavirus vaccines, and the UN's Agenda 2030 global development framework. I also removed an unnecessary term that could be deemed offensive to other readers. I've left some other sections of your comment up for context for now.
    I've done lots of research, and all go against my health.
    If this is in relation to the coronavirus vaccines, please rest assured that they are safe. If you have a concern about the vaccines, perhaps if you have a specific condition and you're worried this might mean the risks of having the vaccine outweigh the benefits, you should speak to your GP in the first instance. You can find official information about the safety and effectiveness of the vaccines on the NHS website. There is unfortunately a lot of misinformation out there about the coronavirus vaccines, so it's important you're getting your information from credible sources.
    last month there were 2 million of us Truthers, not one death reported
    If this is in reference to the anti-lockdown march on the 26th June, all of the articles I've read have suggested that there were thousands of people there, not 2 million (e.g. The Guardian). I also couldn't find any evidence to support the claim that not one death was reported.

    Although some have suggested that Agenda 2030, a global framework for sustainable development, is proof that the coronavirus pandemic is part of a wider conspiracy, this is a false claim. You can read a fact check from Reuters here.
    getting harassed with shop staff 
    It's not clear whether you're exempt from wearing a face mask from reading your comment. If you are, you shouldn't be harassed by shop staff and this is something you should complain about. If you're not exempt, shop staff have been under instruction to ask that all visitors to the shop wear a face mask or covering to help stop the spread of coronavirus, as required by law.
    Wake up world to the propaganda and false narrative. Do not trust strangers with your life.
    This is an important point. It's vital that we all stick to trusting information from credible sources where we can, and not spread misinformation about coronavirus and the coronavirus vaccines that can have dangerous consequences.

    Although I've left parts of your comment up for context for the time being, this is subject to change. We'll also be removing further comments that contain misinformation, opinion presented as fact, or anything else that breaches our house rules.
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  • Tori_ScopeTori_Scope Posts: 5,020

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    Hi @CAC,

    I've removed parts of your comment that contained misinformation about face masks and the coronavirus vaccines, as well as a false claim about the government's motivations and actions.

    There is no evidence to suggest, and there is evidence to disprove, that face masks cause lung cancer. You can read a Reuters fact check here. It's important not to spread misinformation about face masks and coverings that may scare people into not wearing them. Face masks and coverings play an important role in preventing the spread of coronavirus.

    Your claim that the coronavirus vaccines haven't been properly tested is also false. The NHS website outlines how the coronavirus vaccines have been developed, tested, and approved:
    COVID-19 vaccines have to go through several stages of clinical trials before they can be approved for use.

    Clinical trials are where a vaccine or medicine is tested on volunteers to make sure it works and is safe.

    The approved COVID-19 vaccines have been tested on thousands of people in the UK and around the world, including:
    • people from different ethnic backgrounds
    • people aged between 18 and 84
    • people with different health conditions
    All vaccines used in the UK must be approved by the independent Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA).

    The MHRA makes sure the vaccines meet strict international standards for safety, quality and effectiveness. Once a vaccine is approved, it's closely monitored to continue to make sure it is safe and effective.
    You may also find it helpful to watch the video at the bottom of the page, as I think it explains the process in a way that's easy to understand.

    I'm glad to hear that you've had both of your vaccines. If you've been experiencing negative side effects, please visit your GP to discuss this with them.

    PTSD is a certainly a valid reason for not being able to wear a mask. I'm sorry that you felt as though you had to fight for that.
    still they refuse to put it in writing
    I wasn't sure what you meant by this exactly. Who is 'they'? Additionally, as stated on the gov.uk website:
    If you have an age, health or disability reason for not wearing a face covering:
    • you do not routinely need to show any written evidence of this
    • you do not need show an exemption card
    This means that you do not need to seek advice or request a letter from a medical professional about your reason for not wearing a face covering.

    Some people feel more comfortable proving their exemption from wearing facemasks, such as by wearing the Sunflower Lanyard or carrying an exemption card.

    I'm sorry to hear that you were abused as a child, and that you've felt suicidal at times during the pandemic. I'll be sending you an email about this later on today, so please do keep an eye out for that.

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    I'm very sorry for your loss @LithaRiddle, I'm sure that must be very difficult to cope with. Have you spoken to anyone about your grief? Have members of your family been able to support each other through this time?
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  • Tori_ScopeTori_Scope Posts: 5,020

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    Welcome to the community @MrBB. I'm so sorry to hear about what happened to your son. I can't begin to understand how you must be feeling at the moment. I'm going to be sending you an email later on today to check-in with you and see if there's anything we can do to help. Please do keep an eye out for that. 
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  • Tori_ScopeTori_Scope Posts: 5,020

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    Hi @Nikki74 :) Welcome to the community! I've moved your post over to this thread, as I think this is where you meant to put your comment. 

    It's important to remember that you can still catch, and therefore spread, coronavirus even after receiving both vaccines. No vaccine is 100% effective, and the coronavirus vaccines are no different. This is why it's important to continue following social distancing guidance. That being said, getting the vaccine does reduce your risk of catching coronavirus, and in many cases reduces your risk of becoming seriously ill with coronavirus.
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  • Tori_ScopeTori_Scope Posts: 5,020

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    Hi @Edikie :) Welcome to the community, it's good to have you with us. I've also moved your post across to this thread, as that's what your post seemed to be relating to.  Although vaccines, masks, and other measures aren't 100% effective independently, they're all important ways of helping to stop the spread and severity of the virus, especially when combined together.
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  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,352 Disability Gamechanger
    Yes, I'll continue to wear my facemask or covering at least some of the time
    I always wear a face mask and will continue to do so I live in Wales anyway so our rules are slightly different 

    What I have found though with the realy hot weather we are haveing is the masks can be uncomfortable  for breathing and makeing you hot in my job though whilst customers are in the petrol station where I have to wear a mask I can't wait for the flow of customers to slow down and then serve through the hatch as I don't have to wear a mask then 😀
  • angiecxxangiecxx Member Posts: 20 Connected
    Yes, I'll continue to wear my facemask or covering at least some of the time
    @LoveLife. I'm sorry but how can you call face masks (muzzles)?. You also state that people shouldn't trust people but do you trust our so called government who have continued to lie to the public? You may not want to wear a muzzle but you should also think of others. If it's safe enough not to wear a mask then why do cases continue to rise? Yes it's your choice if you choose not to wear a face covering but please think of others as well as yourself. Ps there wasn't two million people, it was a few thousand. 
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