Removal of uplift?

onebigvoice
onebigvoice Scope Member Posts: 806 Empowering
in Universal Credit (UC)
As you may know the Uplift payment is to be removed in October 2021.  Its a double question open to debate.
  If families that were given the £10 are now going to revert back to the payments as it was before, what has changed to let the government believe that its done what it was supposed to do now remove it? and with the increase in National Insurance of 1.25% this would have to be added to your expendatures/oncome, and would have to go down as another loss.
  Where are people on low income supposed to find this " Extra cash " to compensate for the loss of these amounts over the year when they are struggling now?



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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 59,054 Championing
    The uplift isn't £10, it's £86.87 per month.. but i'm not getting into any debates so i'm out.
  • MarkM88
    MarkM88 Community member Posts: 3,121 Connected
    To be frank, it’s happening, the decision has been made, it was always advised it was temporary, people knew to expect it, nothing can really be done now. 
  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,005 Championing
    edited September 2021
    onebigvoice said:
    ...with the increase in National Insurance of 1.25% this would have to be added to your expendatures/oncome, and would have to go down as another loss...
    If someone on UC and in work pays more NI their net pay reduces and their UC goes up (albeit not to cover the full amount).
  • Leigh14
    Leigh14 Community member Posts: 597 Empowering
    MarkN88 said:
    To be frank, it’s happening, the decision has been made, it was always advised it was temporary, people knew to expect it, nothing can really be done now. 
    Yes, people knew to expect it, but, the extra money has certainly helped. Food prices, gas and electric are going up, not to mention the council tax. If someone is surviving on £324 a month, minus bills, food, they have nothing left. 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 59,054 Championing
    They won't be changing their minds because letters have already been sent to those claiming UC.
  • Leigh14
    Leigh14 Community member Posts: 597 Empowering
    woodbine said:
    It was a good deal, and they even extended it for 6 months, and in all fairness people knew it would end, I don't see them changing their minds now.
    We all know how this government like their u-turns though ? 
  • leeCal
    leeCal Community member Posts: 7,537 Championing
    What exactly was the uplift supposed to pay for in the first place?
  • onebigvoice
    onebigvoice Scope Member Posts: 806 Empowering
    leeCal at last..... I agree, whypay it if it was not needed?
  • onebigvoice
    onebigvoice Scope Member Posts: 806 Empowering
    Poppy123456 does that make it exceptable?
  • onebigvoice
    onebigvoice Scope Member Posts: 806 Empowering
    woodbine said:
    It was a good deal, and they even extended it for 6 months, and in all fairness people knew it would end, I don't see them changing their minds now.
    Why extend it for six months?  Yes it was only a temp measure so was being furloughed off?  Any way they voted on it and its comming off and the NI tax is going on.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 59,054 Championing
    edited September 2021
    onebigvoice said:
    Poppy123456 does that make it exceptable?

    Where did i say it was??? It makes no difference to me either way because i claim the old legacy benefits.
  • janer1967
    janer1967 Community member Posts: 21,922 Championing
    @leeCal my understanding of the uplift was to help those on low income but working through the pandemic and possible reduction in pay 

    Due to the complexity of establishing those on uc that were working and those not it was applied to everyone 

    I may be wrong here but that's my understanding 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 59,054 Championing
    @janer1967 spot on!
  • onebigvoice
    onebigvoice Scope Member Posts: 806 Empowering
    As another thought, if it was brought in to help then should the removal be extended since the reason is still there, with the added tax as well? 
  • onebigvoice
    onebigvoice Scope Member Posts: 806 Empowering
    The removal is going ahead anyway.  I am not argueing for the government but just to point out that they always seem to be behind the ball not infront of it showing the way.

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