ESA permitted work question

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  • janer1967
    janer1967 Online Community Member Posts: 21,922 Championing
    Unfortunately any legitimate company will not employ anyone without proof of right to work . By doing so they are breaking the law and would be subject to a hefty fine and possible closure 

    Anyone who does I would suggest they are not a company or business you should even consider working for  
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 63,185 Championing
    Your NI number will remain the same, regardless of what name you have.
  • Bpositive91
    Bpositive91 Online Community Member Posts: 57 Connected
    Thanks guy's.
    I am now aware that employers are under obligation to request and receive an applicants ID and right to work document's.  
    Upon receiving my relevant documents I will proceed to find a part time job. 

    I assume I only need one copy of the document  ( maybe 2 as 1  for spare ) as I won't need to send any off to my bank etc, as it is already in that name. 

    Does it not need to be legally signed by anyone , or once it arrives in the post is that everything completed ? 

    Kind regards 
  • janer1967
    janer1967 Online Community Member Posts: 21,922 Championing
    I would get a few copies you never know when you might need them eg if you apply for passport or driving license etc 

    I have only ever done it through a solicitor in person not by post and would make sure you are using a reputable source to do the change and its not a fraudulent source 
  • Bpositive91
    Bpositive91 Online Community Member Posts: 57 Connected
    Hello
    Good idea thanks, I might get a few copies then. 
    The source is online on the government website. 

    Out of curiosity , if someone lost all their copies what would happen then , would it mean having to put in for a name change again in order to receive more documents ? 

    Kind regards

  • janer1967
    janer1967 Online Community Member Posts: 21,922 Championing
    Hi 

    I'm not sure tbh but think you should be able to get copies from the solicitor who you deal with 
  • Bpositive91
    Bpositive91 Online Community Member Posts: 57 Connected
    janer1967 said:
    Hi 

    I'm not sure tbh but think you should be able to get copies from the solicitor who you deal with 

    I was thinking of doing it through the government site online, does that still involve a solicitor ?

    Thanks
  • janer1967
    janer1967 Online Community Member Posts: 21,922 Championing
    Hi 

    I have just read the gov website , it doesn't involve a solicitor but your application goes through the court system and your new name is then pit on public record known as (the gazette) 

    So I presume if you need another copy then you could get one through them 

    However as good practice you should always keep important documents safe and make sure next of kin know where to find them.  Also send a photocopy not the original if possible

    If handing them to employer or something they will need to see the original and then take a copy which they certify to say they have seem original copy and date it was seen then the copy is retained on your employment file 
  • Bpositive91
    Bpositive91 Online Community Member Posts: 57 Connected
    edited February 2022
    Thank you Janer, thanks for all of that information I have taken it all onboard. 

    I am having some difficulty with ordering birth certificate online.  3 issues.


    1 -  It asks for father's name, he was not put on the certificate so do I still have to put his name down ? ( won't let me proceed if I leave that blank ) . I took on my Mum's surname ( from her dad ) when I was born. 

    2 -   online form, is asking for order reference, what do I put for that ? ( where green tick is drawn )  also, blue box alongside it reads '' set ref'' , not sure what it is ?


    3-     it is also asking for a  customer reference ( where blue tick is drawn above ) , what do I put for that ? 




    NOTE :names have been changed on picture of the form for display purposes  .

    Many thanks as always guy's ..
  • janer1967
    janer1967 Online Community Member Posts: 21,922 Championing
    Hi 

    I'm sorry I'm not sure and unfortunately due to my vision impairment I can't see the pic you have uploaded 

    For fathers name try putting typing in unknown but I would have to match to whatever was on your original 

    I don't understand the other questions is there not a guidance sheet or something 

    You did used to be able to get copies from the register Office where your birth is registered 
  • calcotti
    calcotti Online Community Member Posts: 10,005 Championing
    edited February 2022
    Instead of asking on a forum why don't you
    https://www.gov.uk/order-copy-birth-death-marriage-certificate
    Get help ordering a certificate
    Contact the General Register Office for help ordering a certificate or questions about an order.
    General Register Office 
    certificate.services@gro.gov.uk (for general enquiries)
    Online form (for enquiries after you’ve applied for a certificate) 
    Telephone: 0300 123 1837 


  • Bpositive91
    Bpositive91 Online Community Member Posts: 57 Connected
    calcotti said:
    Instead of asking on a forum why don't you
    https://www.gov.uk/order-copy-birth-death-marriage-certificate
    Get help ordering a certificate
    Contact the General Register Office for help ordering a certificate or questions about an order.
    General Register Office 
    certificate.services@gro.gov.uk (for general enquiries)
    Online form (for enquiries after you’ve applied for a certificate) 
    Telephone: 0300 123 1837 


    Hi
    That only goes up to 1957 and I find searching ancestory things very difficult due to my disability.
     
    Do I have to put gro number and order reference or can I leave those blank ??
  • Bpositive91
    Bpositive91 Online Community Member Posts: 57 Connected
    janer1967 said:
    Hi 

    I'm sorry I'm not sure and unfortunately due to my vision impairment I can't see the pic you have uploaded 

    For fathers name try putting typing in unknown but I would have to match to whatever was on your original 

    I don't understand the other questions is there not a guidance sheet or something 

    You did used to be able to get copies from the register Office where your birth is registered 
    Thank you very much regardless, I appreciate your help and patience 
  • calcotti
    calcotti Online Community Member Posts: 10,005 Championing
    Bpositive91 said:
    That only goes up to 1957 and I find searching ancestory things very difficult due to my disability.
    Can't see anywhere that it says that but if that's what they've told you when you rang I guess it must be so.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 63,185 Championing
    Why would you need to search ancestory when getting a copy of your birth certificate? The helpline are there to answer any questions you have.
  • Bpositive91
    Bpositive91 Online Community Member Posts: 57 Connected
    Hi everyone. 
    Sorry for not updating on the situation in the past week or 2.
    I received both my birth certificate and change of name deed poll within 4 days of confirming the order. I would have done this years ago had I known. 

    I feel I now have more of an identity as beforehand with having things in 2 names It felt I didn't know who I really was .

    Thanks for the help everyone
  • Bpositive91
    Bpositive91 Online Community Member Posts: 57 Connected
    Hi @Bpositive91 Great news. Well done.

    Thank you very much, that is very kind of you. I appreciate it 
  • janer1967
    janer1967 Online Community Member Posts: 21,922 Championing
    I'm really glad you got it all sorted at least now you can move on without having problems of diffetent identity 

    Good luck 
  • L_Volunteer
    L_Volunteer Community Volunteer Adviser, Scope Member Posts: 7,922 Championing
    Hi @Bpositive91

    Thanks for continuing to reach out for support. It is always wonderful to see the support you provide to one another. It seems like it has been a few days since you last posted. I just wanted to ask, do you feel that all your questions have been answered? Please don't hesitate to say if you feel you need further clarification or further support with anything. We are here for you and you don't have to go through this or anything else alone if you don't want to  :)
  • Bpositive91
    Bpositive91 Online Community Member Posts: 57 Connected
    janer1967 said:
    I'm really glad you got it all sorted at least now you can move on without having problems of diffetent identity 

    Good luck 

    me too. thank you sincerely.  I now feel I have more of an identity.