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Universal credit - worried sick about losing £20 a week, especially with rising prices

nickibe
nickibe Member Posts: 6 Listener
edited October 10 in Universal Credit (UC)
Am i the only person that is worried sick how to manage with losing the £20 a week loss on UC, especially with everything going up in price and the rise in fuel prices.

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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 23,781 Disability Gamechanger
    I suspect you're not the only person. I claim the legacy benefits still so i missed out on the increase.
  • nickibe
    nickibe Member Posts: 6 Listener
    I'm gonna miss it as i don't get much money anyway everything price wise has risen so high but not the money we get.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 23,781 Disability Gamechanger
    It's been the same with benefits for many many years.
  • nickibe
    nickibe Member Posts: 6 Listener
    I don't know what the legacy benefit is.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 23,781 Disability Gamechanger
    Legacy benefits include Income Related ESA/JSA, Income Support.
  • MarkM88
    MarkM88 Member Posts: 1,803 Pioneering
    Same here, I never got it either as I’m on legacy benefits. It will be hard but the only advice I can give is, budget wisely and make sure your getting the best deal for everything. 
  • lillybelle
    lillybelle Member Posts: 563 Pioneering
    Do exactly the same as you did before the government gave you an extra £20 a week.

  • nickibe
    nickibe Member Posts: 6 Listener
    Well. I read this morning that the goverment are going to cap the fuel bills so thats a worry off my mind.
  • calcotti
    calcotti Member Posts: 3,006 Disability Gamechanger
    edited October 10
    nickibe said:
    Well. I read this morning that the goverment are going to cap the fuel bills so thats a worry off my mind.
    There has been a fuel cap for several years. Everyone on a variable contract is now paying the capped price. The cap will almost certainly rise again in six months.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • Leigh14
    Leigh14 Member Posts: 344 Pioneering
    Do exactly the same as you did before the government gave you an extra £20 a week.

    Can’t quite do exactly the same though, not now everything is increasing in price. For some people, it will be the case of food or heating
  • woodbine
    woodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 5,285 Disability Gamechanger
    The extra £20 a week was originally for 12 months then it was extended for another 6 months, the total cost has been £9 billion and obviously that couldn't continue.

    Like many others I never got the £20 as i'm on a legacy benefit, there is a lot of talk about energy price rises, they won't hit most of us till next April, if at all.

    Agreed prices in the shops are going up, we aren't used now to inflation, so now is the time to shop smarter, there are a number of groups on facebook to help you do that, and I won't bore you with the details, but it can be done.
    I am a person with epilepsy not an epileptic, my illness doesn't define me.
  • calcotti
    calcotti Member Posts: 3,006 Disability Gamechanger
    edited October 11
    woodbine said:
    ...there is a lot of talk about energy price rises, they won't hit most of us till next April, if at all.
    Many people have just experienced a significant rise.

    woodbine said:
    The extra £20 a week was originally for 12 months then it was extended for another 6 months, the total cost has been £9 billion and obviously that couldn't continue.
    Not obvious at all - public spending involves making choices.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 23,781 Disability Gamechanger
    woodbine said:
     there is a lot of talk about energy price rises, they won't hit most of us till next April, if at all.

    They've hit me already with an increase from £83 to £107 DD per month and no, i'm not in arrears either, infact they owe me £70.
  • lillybelle
    lillybelle Member Posts: 563 Pioneering
    Are you on a smart meter? It may help to keep the costs down.

  • janer1967
    janer1967 Member Posts: 12,274 Disability Gamechanger
    Mine tried to increase mine from £65 to £85 and I was over £100 in credit 

    I rang and made an agreement to go to £75 

    Then had email to say not to panic about increase in prices as they had stockpile of energy they bought in advance so increases would have little effect 
    Here to help with my experience in hunan resources and employment rights 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 23,781 Disability Gamechanger
    Are you on a smart meter? It may help to keep the costs down.


    Yes i am.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 23,781 Disability Gamechanger
    janer1967 said:
    Mine tried to increase mine from £65 to £85 and I was over £100 in credit 

    I rang and made an agreement to go to £75 

    Then had email to say not to panic about increase in prices as they had stockpile of energy they bought in advance so increases would have little effect 

    Thanks janer, i think i will do the same. I must admit i was very shocked at such a huge increase.
  • lillybelle
    lillybelle Member Posts: 563 Pioneering
    Martin Lewis was on about this on his show the other week
  • woodbine
    woodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 5,285 Disability Gamechanger
    The energy prices that are in the news are mostly about the massive rise in the wholesale price of gas, this if it continues will affect the price cap when its next assessed in April 2022, as for the £6 billion a year cost of the £20 uplift it would be difficult in coming years especially if UC goes up inline with increasing inflation and in 20 years time who knows what it would be costing? It's not as simple as a choice in how you spend public money, thats an over simplification.
    What we are seeing is utility companies increasing direct debits to fill their coffers before many of them go to the wall, if you aren't in debt to them refuse these increases.
    I am a person with epilepsy not an epileptic, my illness doesn't define me.
  • calcotti
    calcotti Member Posts: 3,006 Disability Gamechanger
    edited October 11
    woodbine said:
    The energy prices that are in the news are mostly about the massive rise in the wholesale price of gas, this if it continues will affect the price cap when its next assessed in April 2022, 
    The price cap is, as you say, predicted to rise again in April but rose last week, by about 12%, so many people are affected by price rises now. This follows the 9% rise last April and is the first time since it was introduced in 2019 that the price cap has risen twice in one year.
    woodbine said:
    What we are seeing is utility companies increasing direct debits to fill their coffers before many of them go to the wall, if you aren't in debt to them refuse these increases.
    That is undoubtedly true.
    woodbine said:..as for the £6 billion a year cost of the £20 uplift it would be difficult in coming years especially if UC goes up inline with increasing inflation and in 20 years time who knows what it would be costing? 
    That is unknown for all items of expenditure, whether government or personal. The hope is that income can rise with expenditure - which doesn’t get away from the fact that choices can be made about how to spend (although the choices for those on low incomes are exceedingly hard to make).
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • Jona
    Jona Member Posts: 30 Listener
    Legacy benefits include Income Related ESA/JSA, Income Support.
    Sounds like youve been on it for a while...
  • woodbine
    woodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 5,285 Disability Gamechanger
    I will concede one thing in this argument, the £20 a week is spent, be it online, in store or on energy, unlike the better off who would only save it, so effectively by removing the uplift the govt is removing £6 billion a year from the economy.
    I know people who have now lost £20 a week and I know others who never got it but should have.
    I am a person with epilepsy not an epileptic, my illness doesn't define me.

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