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New Strain of Covid

Dragonslayer
Dragonslayer Member Posts: 1,775 Pioneering
edited November 2021 in Coffee lounge
There is a new strain of Covid that started in south Africa. Now confirmed to be over here. Just in time for Christmas. (Oh Joy)
As yet the Scientists have no idea if the jabs we have had including the boosters will be affective against it and they say it will be next year before they have one to fight it. 
We may have to have a 4th jab. 
Should we go into some kind of lock down again?
For now the government have said we have to wear masks in shops. At this time of year with all the shopping going on and the many who will ignore it. What do you think will happen as a result? I for one fear the worst.
For I believe the government dare not do anything to interrupt Christmas for fear of the backlash. This could then cause it to start all over again. 
  

Comments

  • MarkM88
    MarkM88 Member Posts: 2,276 Pioneering
    I do think it’s going to be harder to get people to follow mask wearing again and the same with any further measures they decide to impose. 
  • janer1967
    janer1967 Member Posts: 13,272 Disability Gamechanger
    There is the new strain bur even without it it's not gone away just hope everyone is sensible and do the right thing wearing a mask in my opinion isn't a hardship 

    Unlike if we have to lockdown again fingers crossed as don't know if hospitality trade could survive another Christmas period of closing 
  • TheAlien
    TheAlien Member Posts: 208 Pioneering
    I've never stopped wearing my mask, despite the negative comments I've had, usually reminding me in a very condescending voice that 'they're not needed now love.'  

    A lot of people didn't follow the rules the first time around, I can't see that changing this time.

    As for another lockdown, I think some restrictions will be put in place, but I don't think it will be a full lockdown again.  But for some people, lockdown is just normal life.
  • mikehughescq
    mikehughescq Member Posts: 8,228 Disability Gamechanger
    For the sake of accuracy I think we need to say that the variant was first identified in South Africa. There is no clear evidence as yet as to where it originated

    I can’t see a problem in terms of vaccinations as we will be having booster jabs for the rest of our lives anyway. I’ve never stopped wearing a mask indoors and often out (always at the football for example). Those who aren’t wearing masks and aren’t getting vaccinated will slowly start to be seen as a bigger social nuisance than they think they currently are but it will be slow. The muppets will undoubtedly resist lockdown but how bizarre that we’re now closing our borders. Had that happened in February 2020 literally thousands of lives could have been saved. 

    We have been occupying parallel universes for a number of months now. Government acting like it’s all gone away and the economy has been saved. WHO pointing out that we’re not “living with it” so much as letting it run wild. Hopefully this will be some of the wake up call which is clearly required. 
  • Teddybear12
    Teddybear12 Community Co-Production Group Posts: 2,043 Pioneering
    I have never stopped wearing a mask indoors.
  • woodbine
    woodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 6,052 Disability Gamechanger
    Have noticed over the last couple of weeks more people wearing mask while out shopping, the new strain is definitely cause for concern as the transmission rates may well be higher than previous strains. Even in the last seven days we have seen as many as 50,000 new cases of delta in a single day, despite the numbers who have had both jabs and increasing numbers who have had the booster as well.
    I think the govt. will do all in it's power to avoid another full lockdown as we simply can't afford it.
    All we can do is convince those who remain unvaccinated to think again, and to get our booster jabs as soon as one is offered (mines in 10 days time)
    As for Christmas it might not be what we would all hope it to be.

    Stay safe
    Be kind to newer members
  • mikehughescq
    mikehughescq Member Posts: 8,228 Disability Gamechanger
    Goodness me. We “can’t afford” a lockdown? Of course we can. 

    I strongly suggest reading about previous pandemics. Pale Rider, about the Spanish Flu, is excellent. Kurcharsky and others are also brilliant on this. 

    The choice between lockdown and the economy is a completely false one propagated by politicians whom it suits. 

    In every previous pandemic those countries which locked down early, hard and long always had the best and quickest economic upturn. Those which attempted to balance health and the economy failed every time. That’s because health is the economy. Without a healthy population you don’t have workers and without workers you have no economy. The sheer volume of people infected with Covid is a drain on the economy which could have been avoided. The numbers with long Covid have been described as the greatest single health ticking time bomb in world history. 

    Getting vaccinated is only one part of the solution here and it certainly isn’t “all we can do”.
  • lisathomas50
    lisathomas50 Member Posts: 4,951 Disability Gamechanger
    I very much agree with you Mike 
  • lisathomas50
    lisathomas50 Member Posts: 4,951 Disability Gamechanger
    The new variation is stronger than the delta and it has more mutations than the other variations if we locked down these new variations wouldn't spread so much the government have handled it all wrong 

    There is no economy if there are no workers as already said by others what  we need is  a long hard lockdown close the borders and do everything we can face masks social distancing it will be better in the long run short lock downs don't work 
  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 11,600 Disability Gamechanger
    As far as I can see this new variant is currently a variant under investigation (VUI), & how transmissible it may be is as yet unknown, so it can't at present be said to be 'stronger' than the delta variant, which remains the most prevalent. More info in this link, particularly section 1.5: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1036501/Technical_Briefing_29_published_26_November_2021.pdf
  • Circe
    Circe Member Posts: 65 Courageous
    TheAlien said:
    I've never stopped wearing my mask, despite the negative comments I've had, usually reminding me in a very condescending voice that 'they're not needed now love.'  

    A lot of people didn't follow the rules the first time around, I can't see that changing this time.

    As for another lockdown, I think some restrictions will be put in place, but I don't think it will be a full lockdown again.  But for some people, lockdown is just normal life.
    I agree, I've never not wore mine, only take it off if I'm eating or drinking. 

    I had to cancel my booster due to the snow, I'm hoping to re- book it .

    I couldn't get a taxi or a bus  to get it done. Another thing that as disabled you notice is weather effecting my usual mode of transport. 
  • TheAlien
    TheAlien Member Posts: 208 Pioneering
    Hope you manage to rebook it @Circe, mine is next weekend and if we've still got snow and ice I'll have to rebook mine as the taxi can't park at the entrance and it'll be too dangerous to attempt even a short walk on crutches.
  • Dragonslayer
    Dragonslayer Member Posts: 1,775 Pioneering
    If the scientists discover that the new variant can somehow get through the three jabs we have had, then they will, I'm sure make another vaccine to combat it. Then we will have to get a fourth jab. The trouble will be how soon and when. I suppose we will be getting a jab on a yearly basis from now on as well, just like the Flu jab. 
  • mikehughescq
    mikehughescq Member Posts: 8,228 Disability Gamechanger
    You'll be getting a fourth jab regardless. There is zero evidence at present of the required immunity being achieved for any longer than 8 months at a time. Even though 2 x AZ plus 1 x Pfizer works brilliantly the reality is that no-one knows how long for with that either and we will find out the hard way. I expect to have flu and Covid jabs for the rest of my life and see no issue with that. 

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