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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 63,174 Championing
    Wibbles said:
    Lisatho11987777 said:
    You can have an assessment they have to do one your allowed to have 24,00 00 pound on savings they will asses you on the remaining amount and will put in a package on direct payments 

    I have just gone through it myself with my mum who lives with me she was well over the threshold  but things have changed mum gets 400.00 a month towards her care which is better than nothing 
    What if you have over £24k.?

    Then you won't receive any financial help, if care is needed.
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,270 Championing
    poppy123456 said:
    Wibbles said:
    Lisatho11987777 said:
    You can have an assessment they have to do one your allowed to have 24,00 00 pound on savings they will asses you on the remaining amount and will put in a package on direct payments 

    I have just gone through it myself with my mum who lives with me she was well over the threshold  but things have changed mum gets 400.00 a month towards her care which is better than nothing 
    What if you have over £24k.?

    Then you won't receive any financial help, if care is needed.
    I realise this - I just want an assessment! 
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,270 Championing
    poppy123456 said:
    Wibbles said:
    Lisatho11987777 said:
    You can have an assessment they have to do one your allowed to have 24,00 00 pound on savings they will asses you on the remaining amount and will put in a package on direct payments 

    I have just gone through it myself with my mum who lives with me she was well over the threshold  but things have changed mum gets 400.00 a month towards her care which is better than nothing 
    What if you have over £24k.?

    Then you won't receive any financial help, if care is needed.

    I understood that an "emergency" care package was available short-term (up to a month) that was independent of any savings ?
    But I can no longer find the link to that .......
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,270 Championing
    Is there a maximum allowed wait time before I get a care needs assessment? 
    I have been told by my LA that they cannot give me a date or any idea how long I will have to wait!! 
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,270 Championing
    Who was aware that "Currently, carers do not have a legal right to receive support, although local authorities can provide support at their discretion. This means that access to assessment and the range of support on offer can vary considerably."? 
  • calcotti
    calcotti Online Community Member Posts: 10,005 Championing
    edited June 2022
    Wibbles said: What if you have over £24k.?
    You can still have an assessment but will have to pay for any care provided.
    Lots of information and links here
    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/social-care-and-support-guide/

    AgeUK also have very comprehensive FactSheets on their website.
    https://www.ageuk.org.uk/services/information-advice/guides-and-factsheets/
    Wibbles said:
    Who was aware that "Currently, carers do not have a legal right to receive support, although local authorities can provide support at their discretion. This means that access to assessment and the range of support on offer can vary considerably."? 
    Where is that quote from?
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,270 Championing
    calcotti said:
    Wibbles said: What if you have over £24k.?
    You can still have an assessment but will have to pay for any care provided.
    Lots of information and links here
    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/social-care-and-support-guide/

    AgeUK also have very comprehensive FactSheets on their website.
    https://www.ageuk.org.uk/services/information-advice/guides-and-factsheets/
    Wibbles said:
    Who was aware that "Currently, carers do not have a legal right to receive support, although local authorities can provide support at their discretion. This means that access to assessment and the range of support on offer can vary considerably."? 
    Where is that quote from?
    From : https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/care-act-2014-part-1-factsheets/care-act-factsheets
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,270 Championing
    edited June 2022
    Also my link does say that "Not all types of care and support involve a cost for the person. Whilst the Act gives local authorities the power to charge for care and support, they may not charge for services which the regulations say must always be free, for example reablement services or equipment and minor adaptations to the home."
    Bear in mind that I do have savings that mean that no financial assistance is available to me! 
  • calcotti
    calcotti Online Community Member Posts: 10,005 Championing
    edited June 2022
    The equipment and reablement services referred to is, as the bit you have quoted says, always free.

    Thanks for the link - I'll have a look.

    The rues are set to change from October 2023.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/build-back-better-our-plan-for-health-and-social-care/adult-social-care-charging-reform-further-details
  • calcotti
    calcotti Online Community Member Posts: 10,005 Championing
    Wibbles said:
    Who was aware that "Currently, carers do not have a legal right to receive support, although local authorities can provide support at their discretion. This means that access to assessment and the range of support on offer can vary considerably."? 
    You are misreading it. That paragraph says what was current prior to the Care Act 2014 and was changed by that Act.
    a) Assessments
    The Act gives local authorities a responsibility to assess a carer’s needs for support, where the carer appears to have such needs. This replaces the existing law, which says that the carer must be providing ‘a substantial amount of care on a regular basis’ in order to qualify for an assessment. This will mean more carers are able to have an assessment, comparable to the right of the people they care for.

    The local authority will assess whether the carer has needs and what those needs may be. This assessment will consider the impact of caring on the carer. It will also consider the things that a carer wants to achieve in their own day-to-day life. It must also consider other important issues, such as whether the carer is able or willing to carry on caring, whether they work or want to work, and whether they want to study or do more socially.
    If both the carer and the person they care for agree, a combined assessment of both their needs can be undertaken.

    b) Eligibility
    When the assessment is complete, the local authority must decide whether the carer’s needs are ‘eligible’ for support from the local authority. This approach is similar to that used for adults with care and support needs. In the case of carers, eligibility depends on the carer’s situation. The carer will be entitled to support if:
    • they are assessed as having needs that meet the eligibility criteria
    • the person they care for lives in the local authority area (which means their established home is in that local authority area)
    If there is a charge (as there sometimes may be, as explained below) such charge must be accepted by the carer (or the adult being cared for if it falls to them).

    etc
    You need to read the whole of Factsheet 8 not just the introductory paragraph you quoted.

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