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Supported internship and benefits

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ReneP
ReneP Community member Posts: 6 Listener
edited July 2022 in Benefits and financial support
Hello. My 18 yr old recently diagnosed autistic son is starting a supported internship. Can I continue to get child benefit for him or do I apply for carers allowance and what other benefits. Or does he apply himself I’m getting confused thanks 
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  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,010 Disability Gamechanger
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    When did he leave education?
    https://www.gov.uk/child-benefit-16-19

    Does he receive a disability benefit? If not you cannot claim Carer’s Allowance.

    Are you claiming any benefits yourself?

    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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  • ReneP
    ReneP Community member Posts: 6 Listener
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    He did two years of college, but hasn’t done very well with everything, but hoping now with the diagnosis and the supported internship that he will do better. I just get child benefit and in the process of starting to make a claim for benefits. I’m not sure whether he should claim for himself ( with my help) or I claim in my name for him, or both. Is there a right or wrong way? Thank you 
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  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,010 Disability Gamechanger
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    You cannot claim for him in his name unless you become an appointee.
    https://www.gov.uk/become-appointee-for-someone-claiming-benefits

    You didn’t answer the question I asked about when he left education. If he has just left your CB  can continue to end of August - but you need to keep CB informed. if he claims UC your CB entitlement ends.

    If he is not getting DLA or PIP you cannot claim Carer’s Allowance.

    What benefits are you in the process of starting to make a claim for?

    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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  • ReneP
    ReneP Community member Posts: 6 Listener
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    He officially finished college in June but his attendance wasn’t very good. I’m using the Turn2us  site and have an appointment with a local centre to help me with available benefits. I’m just trying to understand a little more before this happens. Thank you 
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 55,060 Disability Gamechanger
    edited July 2022
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    My daughter did a supported internship for 2 years with college and all my benefits continued for her. During this time she spent most of her time at work and 1 day at college. Is he getting paid from his employer for this?
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
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  • ReneP
    ReneP Community member Posts: 6 Listener
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    Hi, I don’t think he is getting any payment when we go to the ‘official’ registration will put on my list of things to ask. Did your daughter enjoy her time on the special internship? I have a lot to find out and learn about it all. I am also a bit worried about losing the child benefit payment as we get child maintenance from his other parent but if the CB. Finishes so will the CM. Thank you 
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 55,060 Disability Gamechanger
    edited July 2022
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    As he's not being paid then it's classed as full time education (study programme). (same as my daughter) This means that child benefit will continue up until the day before his 20th birthday, if he remains in full time education but you will still need to report the changes to child benefit.
    He won't be able to claim any means tested benefits himself because he's in full time education.
    Does he claim PIP or DLA?
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
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  • ReneP
    ReneP Community member Posts: 6 Listener
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    No not yet, we have an appointment with a benefits adviser coming up, this has all happened quite quickly after his diagnosis 
    and I’m not familiar with some of the rules. Thank you for all the help 
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 55,060 Disability Gamechanger
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    As he's over 16 then it would be PIP he will need to claim. You don't need a diagnosis to claim this. Whether he's entitled to anything will totally depend on how his conditions affect him. Have a look at these links.
    You won't be able to claim carers allowance for looking after him because he will need to be in receipt of PIP daily living award. https://www.gov.uk/carers-allowance/eligibility



    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
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  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,010 Disability Gamechanger
    edited July 2022
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    Thanks,  poppy. I didn’t know when I replied that a supported internship would be through an educational establishment and therefore count as stil in education. I assumed it was something offered by the employer.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 55,060 Disability Gamechanger
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    calcotti said:
    Thanks,  poppy. I didn’t know when I replied that a supported internship would be through an educational establishment and therefore count as stil in education. I assumed it was something offered by the employer.

    No worries. They are very confusing and there's not a huge amount of information out there, especially around child benefit/tax credit etc. The aim of these internships is that the employer will take on the student at the end. Sadly for my daughter the pendemic started in the middle of it so by the time she finished the first one there was no job available for her.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
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  • ReneP
    ReneP Community member Posts: 6 Listener
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    Thank you so much for the replies x
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  • L_Volunteer
    L_Volunteer Community Volunteer Adviser, Scope Member Posts: 7,983 Disability Gamechanger
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    You are welcome @ReneP. Replies are the very least you deserve. If we can do anything else to support you, please don't hesitate to let us know  :)
    Community Volunteer Adviser with professional knowledge of education, special educational needs and disabilities and EHCP's. Pronouns: She/her. 

    Please note: if I use the online community outside of its hours of administration, I am doing so in a personal capacity only.
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  • racyguy
    racyguy Community member Posts: 560 Pioneering
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    ReneP said:
    He did two years of college, but hasn’t done very well with everything, but hoping now with the diagnosis and the supported internship that he will do better. I just get child benefit and in the process of starting to make a claim for benefits. I’m not sure whether he should claim for himself ( with my help) or I claim in my name for him, or both. Is there a right or wrong way? Thank you 
    Just shows just how much I don't know. One of my daughters 20 odd years ago qualified as an accountant through college. She was recommended by her tutor to take up an internship in New York for two years as her specialist subject was American Financial Law,
    As her parents we had to cover all of her living costs, rent, travel, clothes etc whilst she was there. Family allowance ceased when she left college (age 20) and she was not entitled to any benefits and nor were we!
     
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    ShirleyW Community member Posts: 355 Pioneering
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    racyguy said:
    ReneP said:
    He did two years of college, but hasn’t done very well with everything, but hoping now with the diagnosis and the supported internship that he will do better. I just get child benefit and in the process of starting to make a claim for benefits. I’m not sure whether he should claim for himself ( with my help) or I claim in my name for him, or both. Is there a right or wrong way? Thank you 
    Just shows just how much I don't know. One of my daughters 20 odd years ago qualified as an accountant through college. She was recommended by her tutor to take up an internship in New York for two years as her specialist subject was American Financial Law,
    As her parents we had to cover all of her living costs, rent, travel, clothes etc whilst she was there. Family allowance ceased when she left college (age 20) and she was not entitled to any benefits and nor were we!
     
    @racyguy in what way does your comment help the opening poster with their problem?
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 55,060 Disability Gamechanger
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    racyguy said:
    ReneP said:
    He did two years of college, but hasn’t done very well with everything, but hoping now with the diagnosis and the supported internship that he will do better. I just get child benefit and in the process of starting to make a claim for benefits. I’m not sure whether he should claim for himself ( with my help) or I claim in my name for him, or both. Is there a right or wrong way? Thank you 
    Just shows just how much I don't know. One of my daughters 20 odd years ago qualified as an accountant through college. She was recommended by her tutor to take up an internship in New York for two years as her specialist subject was American Financial Law,
    As her parents we had to cover all of her living costs, rent, travel, clothes etc whilst she was there. Family allowance ceased when she left college (age 20) and she was not entitled to any benefits and nor were we!
     

    That sounds like completely different circumstances at the time to the OP. Supported internships now are available for people between the ages of 16-24 and are only for those that have a EHCP.
    Benefits for a young person always stop the day before they reach their 20th birthday.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
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  • racyguy
    racyguy Community member Posts: 560 Pioneering
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    ShirleyW said:
    racyguy said:
    ReneP said:
    He did two years of college, but hasn’t done very well with everything, but hoping now with the diagnosis and the supported internship that he will do better. I just get child benefit and in the process of starting to make a claim for benefits. I’m not sure whether he should claim for himself ( with my help) or I claim in my name for him, or both. Is there a right or wrong way? Thank you 
    Just shows just how much I don't know. One of my daughters 20 odd years ago qualified as an accountant through college. She was recommended by her tutor to take up an internship in New York for two years as her specialist subject was American Financial Law,
    As her parents we had to cover all of her living costs, rent, travel, clothes etc whilst she was there. Family allowance ceased when she left college (age 20) and she was not entitled to any benefits and nor were we!
     
    @racyguy in what way does your comment help the opening poster with their problem?
    Just showing how things have changed over the years. 20+ years ago children/young people who wished to continue their education were expected to be still supported by their parents - even up to the age of 25 in some cases such as those in uni then another 2+ years in say Law College. 
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  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,010 Disability Gamechanger
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    racyguy said:
    Just showing how things have changed over the years. 20+ years ago children/young people who wished to continue their education were expected to be still supported by their parents - even up to the age of 25 in some cases such as those in uni then another 2+ years in say Law College. 
    As far as I can remember, 45 years ago university students could sign on for JSA over the summer vacation.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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  • racyguy
    racyguy Community member Posts: 560 Pioneering
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    calcotti said:
    racyguy said:
    Just showing how things have changed over the years. 20+ years ago children/young people who wished to continue their education were expected to be still supported by their parents - even up to the age of 25 in some cases such as those in uni then another 2+ years in say Law College. 
    As far as I can remember, 45 years ago university students could sign on for JSA over the summer vacation.
    No idea I have never heard of that.
    Presumably like the summer holidays Easter etc would have been classed as unemployed?
    Seems ridiculous though and no wonder it was done away with.
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