Hi, my name is sarahjane22! Just been awarded the care extra on UC

sarahjane22

Just been awarded the  wca extra on UC but I was getting the care element now last payment was the WCA ELEMENT and no care element but what happens about the back pay as I’ve been waiting since November for my assessment I got the decision within two day on my universal credit journal but no answer to if I owe them money as was getting the care allowance premium on universal credit

Ross_Alumni

Hi @sarahjane22

Welcome to the online community, it's lovely to see you join us.

Thank you for creating your first discussion, it's great to see you getting involved right away. I have moved it over to our Universal Credit category and edited the title a bit. How have you found the process so far? It seems as though you have had quite a long time to wait.

This is a very supportive and welcoming site to be a part of so I’m hopeful that you’ll find it to be a positive outlet. Feel free to have a look around and get involved wherever you’d like 😊 I have included below a few of the pages I’d recommend having a look through to get used to things:

• The virtual coffee lounge which is one of our categories, in which we play games and talk about general subjects such as hobbies and interests
• The recent discussions page, which shows an overview of everything happening across the community
• The categories page, which shows a full list of discussion groups on the community

If you have any questions at all then don’t hesitate to ask.

poppy123456

There's a full 3 month assessment period waiting time and the extra money is paid from the 4th month after you reported your health condition. It's not paid at all during this time.

When it's paid from exactly will depend on the exact date you reported your health condition and the dates of your assessment periods (AP) or when you usually receive you payment each month.

You will be owed the difference between carers element and LCWRA element, if you were claiming carers element for the whole time.

Money owed is paid separately to your usual monthly amount.

sarahjane22

Thank you x I was worried I might owe them money thank you x

poppy123456

The LCWRA element is worth more than the carers element so they owe you.

sarahjane22

Great  x 

L_Volunteer

How are you feeling about things at the moment @sarahjane22? I hope things are well. If you need any further support though, please don't hesitate to let us know. We are all here for you 

sarahjane22

Thank you spoke to my work coach and he says he’s got to look at my claim from when I made claim for UC DONT KNOW WHY to look at my award I’ve  not been given a date nothing but will have to just wait x but thank you for the help I was worried I would have a big bill to pay back 

calcotti

sarahjane22 said:

…he says he’s got to look at my claim from when I made claim for UC DONT KNOW WHY to look at my award ..

Because they have to calculate all of your monthly entitlement since the date LCWRA is applied from and then compare that with what you were paid each month. Only then can they calculate money owed to you.

poppy123456

Before they can pay what they owe you they will need to recalculate your past statements. This will then tell them what you should have been paid against what you have already been paid. You will then receive the difference between the 2.

Once this is done you'll receive a letter on your journal telling you how much they owe you.

The new statements will replace your exisiting ones so if you want to keep them you need to take screenshots.

sarahjane22

Thank you x 

L_Volunteer

You are welcome @sarahjane22. It is the very least you deserve. If we can do anything else to support you, please don't hesitate to let us know. We are all here for you 

sarahjane22

Hi I’ve just had my out come and the UC have just left a msg on my journal saying I am not owed any back pay as my award was given on the 8th August 2022 but in fact I’ve been giving them sick notes since September 2021, so they are only paying me from the day I had my medical I’ve been waiting for a assessment since December when I sent my form back so Think that is not right 

poppy123456

If there were no gaps in your fit notes then the extra money should be paid from the 4th month, as advised above. Can i just check that you're not claiming UC with a partner that already receives the LCWRA?

If not then you can request the Mandatory Reconsideration of the decision not to apply it from the date you reported your health condition. Also mention the LCWRA which is payable from the 4th month after this.

sarahjane22

Thank you I have x my caseworker did say it would take time and was looking into this but Iv just got a msg on today saying medical assessment 8/8/22 so only paid from then x so don’t understand now one says one thing the other different and no gaps and no partner x

poppy123456

This was your first work capability assessment and you didn't previously have LCW? If so then you will need to request the MR as advised above. You can do that on your journal.

sarahjane22

I had assessment two years ago and was in the LCW but I got poorly again worst so I reported my health and so started to send sick notes in from September 2021, then in December 2021 I git the assessment form filled it in and that was that I kept calling to get a appointment I got one but not till 8th August 2022, and was granted the OTHER group LCWRA then my August UC HAD FIRST PAYMENT of the extra rate my case worker told me it would take time for him to look at and have it checked, no notes on about why or dates not a thing so I will have to call which is no good as no one can tell you anything just say put a note in your journal x

poppy123456

OK, i didn't realise that because you didn't didn't mention it. Not that it matters here but it does affect when the LCWRA element is paid from. As you already had LCW then there's no waiting period.

When you report a change in health condition the decision should take affect from the assessment period in which you reported the changes. (Sept 2021)

Therefore the advice for what to say for the MR is different. You need to tell them what date exactly you reported the changes. (i assume you must have done that) Then tell them that because you reported the changes and it prompted another assessment then tell them when the extra money is paid from.

sarahjane22

Thank you will keep you updated x

Alex_Alumni

We look forward to hearing more when you do @sarahjane22, and if anything comes up in the meantime let us know  

If you'd like to have a look around the rest of the forum please do feel free, here's a few of the best places to get started:

• Recent discussions is where you'll find all the latest conversations our members are having
• The categories page shows all the different topics for discussion
• The virtual coffee lounge is a place to chat, get to know other members, and play games too

I hope you've been enjoying the weekend, and thanks for joining the community!

Alex