Truss or Sunak For PM?

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  • Grinchy
    Grinchy Online Community Member Posts: 1,953 Championing
    can't stand the Tories, male or female, doesn't matter they are all cut from the same cloth, wealthy first shrink the state etc etc, the poor can go without, shameful 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
         Ah I'm with you. My 2 grew up in the 80s with no discipline but they didn't need it as they knew right from wrong. Their children are the same who never need to be reminded of manners. I'm very lucky but I do know a lot of lawless children because their parents couldn't care less  :/

    My eldest 2 grew up in the 90's and my youngest in the noughties. Neither of them needed the discipline either because as a single mum through most of their childhood, they knew what was right or wrong. Knew their manners, always said please and thank you and still do now, even though they're all grown up.
    My eldest daughter has taught my grandson to say please and thank you from a very very young age. He's only 2 and always says those magic words "please and thank you"
  • vikingqueen
    vikingqueen Scope Member Posts: 1,851 Championing
    edited September 2022
                    It doesn't cost anything does it Poppy but manners can go a long way, its lovely when they learn so young. My youngest granddaughter is 3 and her manners are impeccable as are the other 4 grandchildren. We single parents do a good job.
  • leeCal
    leeCal Online Community Member Posts: 7,537 Championing
    I agree about politeness but it actually cost me a job once. I was with my potential employer when I noticed someone struggling to open a pair of doors whilst holding a heavy weight, so I stepped in and held the doors open for him. I could tell by the managers face that was the moment I lost the interview. Sad but true. 

    To be be honest I wouldn’t have liked working for such an ignorant person anyway. 😄
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,759 Championing
    Make sure your MP knows about and does something about your concerns.
    But my MP is a crawling Boris lover, who changed his alliegences from various candidates as they were voted out - why would I want to express my concerns to him ? When I needed him a few year ago re an issue that should have been bread and butter to him, as standing MP - He was unable to even look at my concern !

  • daresbury1978
    daresbury1978 Online Community Member Posts: 47 Contributor
    Hi Wibbles! I would not be too concerned about the fact that your M.P. "changed his allegiances". However, failing to "look at your concern" is concerning to me also. In 2017 one of my disabled friends (CP) alleged to me that he had apparently been pressurised into signing away his rights to his share of his father's estate (worth around a quarter of a million pounds to him it seemed). I wrote to his MP on his behalf (and with his signed written permission) about it. We received absolutely no response whatsoever from him - not even the traditional automatic electronic acknowledgment that our correspondence had been received by his office. (The struggle continues!) Have you raised your concerns with the relevant constituency office? Apart from that I would certainly use any relevant campaigning groups such as Liberty who are currently trying to stop our Government (Zombie Government that is!) from undermining our human rights. 
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,759 Championing

    Liz Truss promises to set out plan for energy crisis within one week

    She's got 6 days or she's finished !

  • Lisatho11987777
    Lisatho11987777 Scope Member Posts: 5,874 Championing
    Liz truss all the way for me only time will tell and if she keeps to what she said about the gas and electric hike now she is prime minister  then I think she will take us forward but that is just my opinion  we need to give her a chance
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,759 Championing
    edited September 2022
    Liz truss all the way for me only time will tell and if she keeps to what she said about the gas and electric hike now she is prime minister  then I think she will take us forward but that is just my opinion  we need to give her a chance
    So Theresa Coffey has been made Health Secretary
    Considering her views on abortion - that's a good choice - isn't it ?
    TOTALLY UNSUITABLE
    As are most of Truss's cabinet - most of the new cabinet have absolutely no experience at all in their roles - WE ARE DOOMED
    Even Putin has "Lost all hope, after Truss was announced PM!"
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,759 Championing
    edited September 2022
    Liz truss all the way for me only time will tell and if she keeps to what she said about the gas and electric hike now she is prime minister  then I think she will take us forward but that is just my opinion  we need to give her a chance

    Wheres the £ 100's BILLIONS coming from ?
    Sure - spend money when you haved it - but after Covid, the countrys bank account is empty - so borrowing is not a wise move
  • bg844
    bg844 Online Community Member Posts: 3,927 Championing
    To be honest I was more shocked when I seen Therese Coffey was made Health Secretary and more importantly Deputy Prime Minister. I knew she was going to remain in cabinet but thought she’d of stayed on as SoS for W&P. Her replacement, Chloe Smith has experience as the minister for disabled people but she seems a tough nut.

    Looking forward to seeing the energy plan later this week too, supposedly signed off last night but it might not be announced until Friday whilst they implement changes.

    I still go back to my previous comments about Truss though. Let’s see what damage (good or bad) she can do.
  • Old63
    Old63 Online Community Member Posts: 21 Connected
    I will never vote Tory. They have decemated this country. They will try to blame Labour. After I have read the floyed report. Watched the Documentary called this is not a movie. The lies they told and the media Demonised Corbyn.They spent millions on propaganda to Demonise a innocent man. Yet little has been said about it.The trial to assert who was involved starts 26th this month. It wasn't just the Tories it was also the right wing of Labour who stabbed there leader in the back. 
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,759 Championing
    edited September 2022
    Old63 said:
    I will never vote Tory. They have decemated this country. They will try to blame Labour. After I have read the floyed report. Watched the Documentary called this is not a movie. The lies they told and the media Demonised Corbyn.They spent millions on propaganda to Demonise a innocent man. Yet little has been said about it.The trial to assert who was involved starts 26th this month. It wasn't just the Tories it was also the right wing of Labour who stabbed there leader in the back. 

    Corbyn was too far left wing to make it in politics in the UK
    If corbyn had been in government - Russia would be welcomed in with open arms
    We need a moderate Lib Dem government
  • janer1967
    janer1967 Online Community Member Posts: 21,922 Championing
    Truss is going to announce energy plan tomorrow according to what she said earlier in question time 
  • daresbury1978
    daresbury1978 Online Community Member Posts: 47 Contributor
    As Keir Starmer stated at PMQs today the key question about Truss's energy plan is "who pays?"  I am quite sure that the huge "windfall profits" accrued by the energy  firms should be raided. Truss will probably make the poorest in our society even poorer. We are being governed by a rich, right wing, non representative  elite who live in a "make belief" world (a bit like CQC?). Corbyn spoke the truth at huge personal cost politically. Having said all of that I suppose we have to wait and see (but not for too long). Liz Truss will noy be treated so kindly at future PMQs. 
  • Old63
    Old63 Online Community Member Posts: 21 Connected
    Wibbles I'm sorry. That you to have been brain washed. By the Media to believe that. Just type into Google most smeared politician in History. It's well known all over the world. 
  • bg844
    bg844 Online Community Member Posts: 3,927 Championing
    Truss is going to announce energy plan tomorrow according to what she said earlier in question time 
    Just watched the highlights, thanks for the info!
  • Cartini
    Cartini Online Community Member Posts: 1,107 Trailblazing
    Old63 said:
    I will never vote Tory. They have decemated this country. They will try to blame Labour. After I have read the floyed report. Watched the Documentary called this is not a movie. The lies they told and the media Demonised Corbyn.They spent millions on propaganda to Demonise a innocent man. Yet little has been said about it.The trial to assert who was involved starts 26th this month. It wasn't just the Tories it was also the right wing of Labour who stabbed there leader in the back. 
    Hi @Old63,
    I`m sorry, and speaking as an ex-military man, Corbyn was a disgrace.  His fraternisation with multiple known terrorists (ex-terrorists (you can dress a pig in a suit but it`s still a pig)) whilst a prospective Prime Minister of this great country of ours disgusted and, if I`m honest, worried & scared me. 
    And before you brush aside my comment with "you`ve been brain washed", I`m old enough, wise enough and experienced enough to make my own mind up without being a lemming and following those you categorise as not having the ability to make their own mind up.
    And don`t forget his anti-Semitism and his refusal to do anything about anti-Semitism in the Labour Party. 
    His suspension was wholly justified; it wasn`t "a stab in the back".

  • Cartini
    Cartini Online Community Member Posts: 1,107 Trailblazing
    bg844 said:
    To be honest I was more shocked when I seen Therese Coffey was made Health Secretary and more importantly Deputy Prime Minister. I knew she was going to remain in cabinet but thought she’d of stayed on as SoS for W&P. Her replacement, Chloe Smith has experience as the minister for disabled people but she seems a tough nut.

    Looking forward to seeing the energy plan later this week too, supposedly signed off last night but it might not be announced until Friday whilst they implement changes.

    I still go back to my previous comments about Truss though. Let’s see what damage (good or bad) she can do.
    Hi @bg844,
    I think there`s a uniqueness about someone who likes to karaoke, smoke cigars (I`m not a smoker), likes her champagne (an assumption after a photo I saw in a paper), who is very overweight but lives her life regardless and has Dr Dre as a ringtone on her phone.  For that, maybe strangely, I actually respect her.
    Whether she "delivers" or not, time will tell.
    I think Truss is trying to make a point with her new cabinet in that there are no white men in the top 4 people of her cabinet (a comment made on the news); they are females and / or people of colour.  Again, as for Coffey, time will tell.
    Like you, I`m unsure (read that as don`t Truss(t) ;)) her.
    Before someone misreads this and calls me racist or mysogynistic, I`m not.
    Andy

  • Old63
    Old63 Online Community Member Posts: 21 Connected
    I'm Ex Army. I'm sorry but yet again. You are a prime example of someone who has suffered from been attacked with propaganda. You don't have a clue.Have read the Floyed report. It's obvious you have not.