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'Benefit cuts for disabled people in hospital called unfair'

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  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,010 Disability Gamechanger
    racyguy said:.
    We are entitled to many things but don't receive them - Council Tax 100% discount (over £2,000pa), all of the COL awards based on receiving a means tested benefit etc.
    Because you don’t claim them.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 52,417 Disability Gamechanger
    racyguy said:
    racyguy said:
    woodbine said:
    @racyguy said " Some people just treat PIP/DLA as extra money to cover unrelated bills - not what it is for,"

    Please don't make comments like that before you check to see if what you are saying is correct because some people might read it and think it is correct, IT ABSOLUTELY IS NOT CORRECT IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER 
    I don't remember seeing any section of the form that asks about holidays or even your gas and electric bill.
     
    Neither does it ask any questions related to extra expenses because of any disability! So yet again, you are wrong!
    My daughter has no extra expenses because of her disability because she refuses extra support because of trust issues. This doesn't mean she's not entitled to PIP!

    We are entitled to many things but don't receive them all of the COL awards based on receiving a means tested benefit etc.


    No you weren't because you weren't claiming any means tested benefits.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • Sue78
    Sue78 Community member Posts: 9 Listener
    calcotti said:
    racyguy said:.
    We are entitled to many things but don't receive them - Council Tax 100% discount (over £2,000pa), all of the COL awards based on receiving a means tested benefit etc.
    Because you don’t claim them.
    Correct and you know why. I already have had two fraud investigations since 2019 and I don't particularly want any more!
  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,010 Disability Gamechanger
    Sue78 said:
    calcotti said:
    racyguy said:.
    We are entitled to many things but don't receive them - Council Tax 100% discount (over £2,000pa), all of the COL awards based on receiving a means tested benefit etc.
    Because you don’t claim them.
    Correct and you know why. I already have had two fraud investigations since 2019 and I don't particularly want any more!
    I don’t understand this post - I don’t know anything about you Sue78.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 52,417 Disability Gamechanger
    Sue78 said:
    calcotti said:
    racyguy said:.
    We are entitled to many things but don't receive them - Council Tax 100% discount (over £2,000pa), all of the COL awards based on receiving a means tested benefit etc.
    Because you don’t claim them.
    Correct and you know why. I already have had two fraud investigations since 2019 and I don't particularly want any more!

    I'm confused by this comment too. Are you racyguy with a different username? Racyguy has also mentioned fraud a few times in previous threads...
    You posted a thread for some help and you were given some advice from a few members, myself and calcotti included. See thread https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/97656/im-new-on-here-a-friend-told-me-to-ask-my-question-looking-for-help#latest

    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community member Posts: 15,895 Disability Gamechanger
    With apologies, as I've made this 'argument' before. No-one is 'entitled' to a benefit, i.e. has a 'right' to get one, e.g. PIP, altho it's classed as a disability benefit, not every disabled person would be awarded; it all depends if you meet the qualifying criteria. However, if you don't try to claim a benefit, then you'll certainly not be awarded.
  • woodbine
    woodbine Community member Posts: 11,329 Disability Gamechanger
    I see it slightly differently in that everyone/anyone is entitled to seek a benefit, although never guaranteed to get it certainly not in terms of PIP and ESA
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  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,010 Disability Gamechanger
    woodbine said:
    I see it slightly differently in that everyone/anyone is entitled to seek a benefit, although never guaranteed to get it certainly not in terms of PIP and ESA
    I don’t think you are saying anything different to chiarieds. ‘Entitled to seek’ is not the same as ‘entitled to’.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • Sandy_123
    Sandy_123 Scope Member Posts: 43,975 Disability Gamechanger
    Sorry to butt in on a different note, but how is 1 person allowed 2 profiles? Seems to be going on alot lately. I was under the impressions we were only allocated 1. 
    So how is it possible to have 2? Plus why would you want 2? 
  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community member Posts: 15,895 Disability Gamechanger
    edited November 2022
    Hi @Sandy_123 - The majority of people will come on here with one username, but it does happen that a few then choose to have another. Scope don't stop this, & give people the benefit of doubt. Altho it seems alien to most of us, a person can be on here with various usernames. I'm not saying that's the case here, but often some members will see similarities in posts/use of language, etc. so then question; I know I've also done it before.
  • Sue78
    Sue78 Community member Posts: 9 Listener
    racyguy said:
    racyguy said:
    woodbine said:
    @racyguy said " Some people just treat PIP/DLA as extra money to cover unrelated bills - not what it is for,"

    Please don't make comments like that before you check to see if what you are saying is correct because some people might read it and think it is correct, IT ABSOLUTELY IS NOT CORRECT IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER 
    I don't remember seeing any section of the form that asks about holidays or even your gas and electric bill.
     
    Neither does it ask any questions related to extra expenses because of any disability! So yet again, you are wrong!
    My daughter has no extra expenses because of her disability because she refuses extra support because of trust issues. This doesn't mean she's not entitled to PIP!

    We are entitled to many things but don't receive them all of the COL awards based on receiving a means tested benefit etc.


    No you weren't because you weren't claiming any means tested benefits.
    Obviously.
    Put it another way, if I had claimed the benefit, I would have received the COL payments. Bit of a double-edged sword - claim it, get the COL payments and have another fraud investigation.
    Not much of a choice really
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 52,417 Disability Gamechanger
    Sue78 said:
    racyguy said:
    racyguy said:
    woodbine said:
    @racyguy said " Some people just treat PIP/DLA as extra money to cover unrelated bills - not what it is for,"

    Please don't make comments like that before you check to see if what you are saying is correct because some people might read it and think it is correct, IT ABSOLUTELY IS NOT CORRECT IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER 
    I don't remember seeing any section of the form that asks about holidays or even your gas and electric bill.
     
    Neither does it ask any questions related to extra expenses because of any disability! So yet again, you are wrong!
    My daughter has no extra expenses because of her disability because she refuses extra support because of trust issues. This doesn't mean she's not entitled to PIP!

    We are entitled to many things but don't receive them all of the COL awards based on receiving a means tested benefit etc.


    No you weren't because you weren't claiming any means tested benefits.
    Obviously.
    Put it another way, if I had claimed the benefit, I would have received the COL payments. Bit of a double-edged sword - claim it, get the COL payments and have another fraud investigation.
    Not much of a choice really

    So you are racyguy with a different username. What i don't understand is why you started a thread asking for advice on benefts stating you and your partner only receive a small amount of state pension. There was no mention of your private pensions in that thread. You were even given advice about claiming AA for your husband but racyguy apparently claims PIP.. People can have as many accounts as they want because scope have no rules on this but i just don't understand why.
    There's people on here that give a huge amount of their time to advise others..
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.

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