Upcoming changes to benefits

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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 747 Championing

    I consider mine( ME FIBROMYALGIA) lifelong as there’s no cure or treatment but would they class that as lifelong ? That’s the thing

  • mawempathy
    mawempathy Online Community Member Posts: 75 Empowering

    You have to apply for PIP yourself. Make an appointment with the Citizens Advice Bureau (CAB) and they'll help you as the forms are insanely complicated.

  • Popster2020
    Popster2020 Online Community Member Posts: 35 Connected

    Will contributory esa (I am in the support group) be merged with JSA? I know Income related ESA was due to be merged with UC

  • tcellmutation
    tcellmutation Online Community Member Posts: 339 Empowering

    I am currently being migrated to UC with protection. It's due to be finalised on April 5th. Will i still get what I would have been entitled to if this announcement was to have not taken place?

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 747 Championing
  • Tumilty
    Tumilty Online Community Member Posts: 229 Empowering

    So if combining esa with jsa then how does that work if people are long term ill? They are on esa for a reason that is they can't work.

  • William01
    William01 Online Community Member Posts: 24 Connected

    No, but those with existing awards that have 4 points in a current care activity already meet the new proposed legislative requirements. Interesting to see if those that don't meet the requirements, will there existing awards be pulled and reviewed... the amount of effort involved in such am exercise would be massive and given that the full welfare reform from Tories isn't fully rolled out I'd be very surprised. Also given the fact that new uc health tops reduced and existing people frozen, I'd assume they will not pull existing awards.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,537 Championing

    Any mention of Carers Allowance ?

  • geckobat
    geckobat Online Community Member Posts: 74 Contributor

    I'm a bit confused at the idea of none of this happening until 2029/2030 because she said UC LCWRA changes will be next April and also for those who have PIP, she said changes in November this year. Can anybody explain?

  • Popster2020
    Popster2020 Online Community Member Posts: 35 Connected

    thanks so much for getting back to me. That's my reading too. What do you think will happen to ESA Contributory Support Group? Is it to be merged with JSA? If so, will I need to be re-assessed for this or given that it is going to be governed by the PIP assessment will this be at award review in 8 years time?

  • Maggie37
    Maggie37 Online Community Member Posts: 72 Empowering

    Thanks so much. I’m going to be ok but hoping and praying for others.

  • barton85
    barton85 Online Community Member Posts: 19 Connected

    I get lcwra element but not pip I have leukaemia which I will have for the rest of my life taking daily chemo tablets so can only hope this would still make me eligible on the next review

  • William01
    William01 Online Community Member Posts: 24 Connected

    I thought there's a new insurance type payment amalgating both CB Esa and Jsa.. so on that regard they shouldn't be moved to UC...??

  • Stellar
    Stellar Online Community Member Posts: 270 Empowering

    You may wish to lock this thread, so people stop commenting. this will get buried.

  • Prinko
    Prinko Online Community Member Posts: 22 Contributor

    is any of this affecting New Style ESA?

  • nsaeon
    nsaeon Online Community Member Posts: 21 Contributor

    Some changes are coming in sooner than others.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/pathways-to-work-reforming-benefits-and-support-to-get-britain-working-green-paper/pathways-to-work-reforming-benefits-and-support-to-get-britain-working-green-paper#annex-a-summary-of-policy-measures-and-consultation-questions

    This is a timetable of the changes.

  • Ray212
    Ray212 Online Community Member Posts: 662 Empowering

    Annex A: Summary of Policy Measures and Consultation Questions

    The implementation dates in this table are those by which the Department anticipates bringing these changes into force. However, they are subject to various factors, such as legislative timetable and operational factors which mean that these dates are subject to change and are indicative.

    Chapter

    Policy

    Consulting

    Question Number

    Implementation From (indicative)

    Chapter 2

    Scrap the WCA

    No

    n/a

    28/29

    Chapter 2

    Single assessment (PIP)

    No

    n/a

    28/29

    Chapter 2

    Removing barriers to trying work

    Yes

    1

    26/27

    Chapter 2

    Rebalancing UC standard allowance and health element

    No

    n/a

    26/27

    Chapter 2

    Focussing PIP more on those with higher needs

    No

    n/a

    26/27

    Chapter 2

    Supporting people who lose entitlement to PIP

    Yes

    2

    TBC

    Chapter 2

    Health and eligible care needs of those no longer eligible for PIP

    Yes

    3

    27/28

    Chapter 2

    New Unemployment Insurance contributory benefit

    Yes

    4

    28/29

    Chapter 2

    Review of the PIP assessment

    No - Process separate to Green Paper

    n/a

    TBC

    Chapter 2

    Switching back on WCA reassessments

    No

    n/a

    TBC

    Chapter 2

    Increasing the number of face-to-face assessments in PIP and WCA

    No

    n/a

    TBC

    Chapter 2

    Recording Assessments

    No

    n/a

    TBC

    Chapter 2

    Reducing assessments for those with severe conditions

    No

    n/a

    26/27

    Chapter 2

    Improving communications with those receiving an ongoing award

    No

    n/a

    26/27

    Chapter 2

    Medical evidence and digitalization

    No

    n/a

    27/28

    Chapter 2

    Safeguarding in DWP

    Yes

    5

    25/26

    Chapter 3

    A new ‘Pathways to Work’ support offer

    No

    n/a

    We expect to begin testing elements on a voluntary basis over the next year

    Chapter 3

    Implementing a new Support Conversation

    Yes

    6,7

    We expect to begin testing elements on a voluntary basis over the next year

    Chapter 3

    A new baseline expectation of engagement

    Yes

    8-10

    27/28

    Chapter 3

    Delaying access to the UC health element until age 22

    Yes

    11

    27/28

    Chapter 3

    Raising the age at which people can claim PIP to 18.

    Yes

    12

    TBC

    Chapter 4

    Reforming Access to work and the workplace adjustments system

    Yes

  • Becky93
    Becky93 Online Community Member Posts: 69 Empowering

    No, pretty sure it's bad, they only ever sugar coat it in the speech, the fine detail will show how bad it all is no doubt. Effectively everyone not fit for work will have their benefits cut unless they rule that you will never be fit for work, which I'm going to guess will apply to very few people, otherwise you will see a benefit cut with the freezing of LCWRA, and if you don't qualify for PIP and are currently qualifying for LCWRA the changes there don't spell good for you either, particularly as it's going to come attached with making it even harder to qualify for PIP.

    There will be a lot of sugar coating, and some of the principle isn't terrible in theory, the problem will be the application. Eg. combining assessments isn't a terrible theory, because it's pretty stressful for claimants to have to go for two often near identical assessments, but in practice they're just using this to reduce the number of eligible claimants, particularly with whatever PIP changes they're going to try and force through. Other parts are just indefensible. The freezing of LCWRA or health element as they're calling it is illogical. These are people that you have found not fit for work, but you're now cutting their benefits, how is that in anyway logical?

  • Ray212
    Ray212 Online Community Member Posts: 662 Empowering

    No idea why it came out as purple :/

  • mawempathy
    mawempathy Online Community Member Posts: 75 Empowering

    The protections for LCWRA until 2029/2030 are for existing claimants. When the changes kick in, new applicants for LCWRA will be assessed using the new rules and amounts immediately.

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