The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)
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They just pressed a key on a computer to find out how many people scored '4 points' for a descriptor, the computer threw out XXX, XXX, number. They liked the number, so that is the 'cut off'.
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I am just LCWRA for substantial risk. I don't claim PIP. I don't know where in the heck I stand. So worried.
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Stephen Timms said on Good Morning Britain today that a new PIP assessment will start in November 2026. The link to the interview is on the previous page.
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I've been scared the past few days about this. I get PIP and LCWRA for Bipolar Disorder and now I'm scared I'm going to lose these two benefits. I don't understand how they can still try to go through with this despite the amount of backlash that they've been getting. Is there a point in writing to Liz Kendall about these issues? I worry that they just simply won't care. I mean, that's been shown based on their attitudes recently
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Yes Charlie. Benefits and work have even gone as far to call it 'bogus'...and I agree with them.
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I think that just means having to have the 4 points somewhere. They seem to be saying they will look at the PIP assessment but there won’t be any changes until after all this other stuff is rolled out. So probably not till 2029 at the earliest
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I’m sure I read on the guardian that they may look at the form in the future but now it’s the same apart from us needing 4 points I’ve been looking for that on guardian but haven’t found it
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Yes that's right . Point 106 in green paper does say they are "not consulting on this measure "
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The Government says that “This change will be non-negotiable “We will implement this change via primary legislation. Further details will be published in the forthcoming White Paper. We are not consulting on this measure
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No need to thank me but you are so welcome Gazmo. Xxxx
Remember, no matter what happens, we are all in this together .
And we will all face it together. Xxx
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Hi all i get pip and work capability im guessing il be losing my work capability very soon I feel so stressed about this i understanding everybody else does aswell
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Thanks zips, this is the only bit of relief I've had today.
Thankyou so much. X
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So does this mean nomatter what is said it done it will go through ?
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From The Guardian/Resolution Foundation article
‘A single person who would have previously qualified for Pip standard daily living and UC LCWRA will now not qualify for Pip daily living if they do not score at least four points on a single criterion of the Pip assessment, and from 2028 they will also not qualify for the UC LCWRA element when the Pip assessment replaces the work capability assessment to determine eligibility. This amounts to an annual loss of £9,600 per year in 2029-30.’
I won’t go into the pressures I’ve had to endure on the private rental market. I will be on the street1 -
I just will not think about it . Honestly I do not know what it will happen to me. In esa and pip but it seems pip will be the first thing I might lose. Maybe even both . But I just don't know.. I don't think this government will last. Maybe new elections coming soon..… it seems this government betrayed its people from almost the beginning...
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@Vulcress yep, saw that interview last night. Total turnaround from at The Resolution Foundation. They're all too busy busy, at the trough. Didn't he say at one point no, I've got a mortgage. I'd have laughed if I hadn't choked.
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The irony of them doing this as a way to get more mental health claimants into work (and save money) when this has messed my mental health up more and pushed me even further away from ever being stable enough to work, plus I've had to have my med dose increased costing the NHS more money! I'd laugh if I wasn't feeling like I'm **** broken inside from all this.
How many of us are are feeling like there is no hope and seriously considering ending it all?
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This is down to reeves disastrous budget, to fill her failing. Surely Echr should be able to help. They say about getting people into work, some fo work my daughter included. It for our independence. It's not out of work benefits. Saw on talk tv that some guest was saying that pip can be given by having it done online without face to face.
I don't know how I managed, asd, dyslexia, fatigue, copd, joint hypermobility syndrome, i have ptsd from child abuse, rape etc and im having more tests done. Starmer is a disgrace , the front bench
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Governments usually try to push through policies that match their goals. In this case, their strong wording shows they’re serious about making it happen. However, for laws to pass, they still have to go through Parliament, where they will be debated and potentially changed. So, even if the government wants things their way, the process could slow them down or alter the outcome.
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@Squirrel1_@secretsquirrel1 I completed my own PIP form at a time when my main carer was a family member. I received points of 4 and above for the daily living activities affected by my disability.
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