Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)
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Labour's cuts has been at least 3 years in the making, they're carrying on Tory plans and even pushed Fraser Nelson's hit job on disabled people via dispatches.
Remember only in Britain does this happen, no other country in Western Europe whips up hatred against those who legitimately can't work and I find it sinister.
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Hi all, I posted a while ago saying I got pip with 4pts for daily living however I was wrong.
I was awarded 4pts but appealed and got 10pts for 1 thing and a few 2's for other things, this was 2020. Last year I got a letter and form to fill in asking if I was still in requirement of pop, I filled it in and pip has carried on although I can't see anything about award length.
Also I'm on esa, not the contribution based on and my anxiety has been through the roof as to know my situation. Everything is overwhelming and I don't know what my personal future prognosis is. Sorry for being selfish I just wondered if anyone could enlighten me.
Regards
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Also I can't imagine this will all go through as it's inhumane. [Removed by moderator] Dianne Abbot and more will surely rebel.
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Hello @Tumilty. The proposed PIP rules state you need at least 4 points in one descriptor to qualify, as well as over 8 points in total. If you have 10 points awarded in one descriptor, then you would have enough under the proposed changes.
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Is there actually any hope atall that the 4 point pip rule won't go through ?can't actually get my head around the cruelness of it .
Just read on sky how MP's are getting a pay rise so their salaries will be a whopping
£93,904.
How on earth is that fair or morally right ☹️
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Thanks @Charlie_Scope its for difficulty travelling to unfamiliar places. I'm just wondering about my award lenth, what about my esa please if you know. Will I be reassessed for both.
Many Regards
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Interesting article from Sir Robin Millar Chair of Disability Charity Scope.
I hope it is ok to post this article.
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as i believe it its the new point system that you need a 4 point only in the daily living mobility is not affected
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as far as I’m aware there are no changes to ESA IR in this green paper. However you should get a migration letter by the end of year to migrate it to UC
I have no idea what it entails but there are other posts about this in scope I belief.
And yes, you’ll be reassessed again, but from 2028 only for PIP as per green paper proposals.
Hope this helps
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good for him
There are times to act for what is morally right and this is one of them
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So mps pay going up 2.8% next year. Disgusting
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Yes to £93,904! Shocking . Take from the vulnerable to give to the rich
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They get a pay rise while they sit there with their proposals to push the most vulnerable into poverty and harass them constantly. What a lovely world (not).
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The government can adjust the minimum amount they say is needed to live on by changing the law through the legislative process, and it looks like that’s what they’re doing. They will no doubt argue that the previous levels were unsustainable or no longer reflect the reality of the economy. In the end, the government can "get away with it" because they control the legal framework, but that doesn't mean the decision won’t be contested or scrutinised by the public, disability charities, media, or courts.
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That was unexpected,
MP personal reply no copy and paste, they agreed I made valid points
and has spoken with both Timms and Kendall over the issues raised.
Now this begs the question if they agree that a lot of these proposals are "unfair"
will they vote against it?
Reform nearly took this seat at the GE, Wiping out nearly 8,000 maj
they are doorstepping every weekend , Main issues? reopening the closed A&E, and how disabled people are being treated, Its of course nonsense but this is what Labour cannot see they are putting so much fear into people.
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@alexroda many thanks for your words.. As i say after the tribunal in 2021 i was awarded the 10 points but in the letter i can't find anything about how long i'll receive the award. Will the pip assessment be face to face as i recall my last one was a big form i filled in then the appeal/tribunal was via telephone. Many thanks but even though it's very worrying for me there ain't much can do about it now & it's a long way off.
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I can’t answer that, but at the moment official figures show that 7% of the assessments are being done face to face and the rest via phone.
You might have a 10 year award. Who knows.
You’ll get a text and a letter once they start your review process.
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if you are feeling really anxious about the length of your award, I guess you can always call them up and find out.
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interesting short call with a current working welfare advisor.
Point that struck me the most is that there is a disability advisor in every jobcenter but due to the current number of jobless people, they have no time to help disabled people.
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Does anyone know if there is a website so you can see what mps are opposed to these benefit cuts? I’d like to see if my mp is opposing them
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