Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)
Comments
-
There was an interesting article in the Times (a paper I generally wouldn't read because of previous attitudes to autism) about the untapped resource of ND people, from the perspective of why we are being kept down/prevented from working. More of that media and less of the other would be appreciated.
I was thinking about the plan to put the PIP points thing through primary legislation and make it law so it can't be challenged from an equality perspective. But surely even if they did do that, that wouldn't enshrine the particular criteria in law, nor the way in which the points were assigned. There would still, surely, be opportunities to challenge the legality of the criteria, given that putting such limits/requirements would mean discriminating against some disabled people whose conditions are not properly covered in the criteria.
I'm frustrated with the "everyone knows someone who is playing the system" squad, though. Their arguments are copypaste but they don't really make sense.
If they genuinely knew someone that was cheating, and were that outraged about it that they need to rant on social media, you'd think they'd have reported them to the DWP. The fact that official fraud figures are so low means that if they DID report these people, their accusations were proven to be unfounded. If there were that many people playing the system, then the fraud % would be higher. All it shows is the shocking level of disability awareness in the UK, which is the real thing that needs fixing.
The chair throwing is a symptom of the hate being fostered in the press.7 -
I just did the leaked new pip test on benefitsandwork site
I got two scores of 8 points for washing and bathing and preparing a meal.
I bet the DWP won't agree with that.
2 -
How disgraceful.
1 -
Yeah the press have a lot to answer for as do this awful Liebour government ( and the Tories )
2 -
I had a dream about Kendall too once, she came to my house as an assessor to give me a WCA. She told me to just get over my mental health issues, I wanted to explain more but needed the bog, after I used the bog and came back she had just left without a trace.
2 -
I agree with you.
1 -
Just a thought and no offence intended but maybe a new thread about dreams could be made.
This is going off topic.
3 -
I just want to give all of you a great big hug. Please remember how important you are and how much you matter. ❤️
4 -
Also, someone said this in the previous thread, but I want to reiterate: I really do think this is going to be Labour’s poll tax. How can they possibly come back from this?
4 -
They can't but we are stuck with them until the next General election and they are destroying the country.
2 -
Yep 😕 and I don’t even know who would be better at the next GE! I’d love to see Starmer kicked out in a vote of no confidence and someone with the beliefs of people like Diane Abbott or John McConnell leading. (Which ironically we could have had back in 2019!)
Im in Scotland and we have our elections next year. I think this could be the killer for Scottish Labour. The leader of SLab at Holyrood has already come out in support of the cuts, surprise surprise
2 -
I'm trying to remain calm but its so hard right now.
I'm dreading what Reeves has in store for us in the spring budget in Wednesday.
It doesn't even bare thinking about.
2 -
Not a Budget - a Statement that will put some exact numbers ( in other words dodgy statistics ) onto what was announced by Liz Kendal last week. More of the same nonsense.
The broadest shoulders to carry the heaviest burden my a***
5 -
Hope @apple85 is ok he was good with resistance posts. Reeve is started to be targeted by more people in the media, people are now pushing for the fiscal rules to be changed including economists, but the problem is Reeves has some strong anti social security ideology and has become obsessed with this fiscal rule she has set, she was calling for what she is doing now 12 years ago, and same with Kendall. A lot of disabled people elsewhere think this will get watered down without any fight, or that it isnt that bad. I think if this does get reversed somehow, Reeve will quit.
5 -
Someone did a job search live on a video on the gov.uk site following criteria.
Part time or full time.
Fully remote working.
Disabled friendly.
There was 8 jobs in the entire country, all skilled.5 -
The user and all related content has been deleted.2
-
Here are a list of Labour mps who support the welfare cuts. This letter was posted on x
3 -
I'm surprised that my MP isn't on the list.
I honestly he would be all for this.
1 -
your benefit disability advisor might have been wrong, if the following doc did apply back then. According to it, you can work even though you are on ESA:
That’s why all this narrative that it’s a binary system, doesn’t apply for people in ESA, and that’s why the green paper is misleading and therefore unlawful
2 -
pretty good article regarding figures and welfare expenditure as disability expenditure across Europe.Has some info missing, like, I think it’s in Italy or Spain, there’s a 12% of people of long term ill working age people not able to work.
All this prefabricated narrative by the government just makes wanna puke.
2
Categories
- All Categories
- 15.9K Start here and say hello!
- 7.6K Coffee lounge
- 108 Games den
- 1.8K People power
- 164 Announcements and information
- 25.4K Talk about life
- 6.2K Everyday life
- 506 Current affairs
- 2.5K Families and carers
- 874 Education and skills
- 2K Work
- 588 Money and bills
- 3.7K Housing and independent living
- 1.2K Transport and travel
- 646 Relationships
- 1.6K Mental health and wellbeing
- 2.5K Talk about your impairment
- 883 Rare, invisible, & undiagnosed conditions
- 942 Neurological impairments and pain
- 2.2K Cerebral Palsy Network
- 1.3K Autism and neurodiversity
- 41K Talk about your benefits
- 6.1K Employment & Support Allowance (ESA)
- 20.3K PIP, DLA, ADP & AA
- 9.2K Universal Credit (UC)
- 5.3K Benefits and income