Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)
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Yes to £93,904! Shocking . Take from the vulnerable to give to the rich
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They get a pay rise while they sit there with their proposals to push the most vulnerable into poverty and harass them constantly. What a lovely world (not).
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That was unexpected,
MP personal reply no copy and paste, they agreed I made valid points
and has spoken with both Timms and Kendall over the issues raised.
Now this begs the question if they agree that a lot of these proposals are "unfair"
will they vote against it?
Reform nearly took this seat at the GE, Wiping out nearly 8,000 maj
they are doorstepping every weekend , Main issues? reopening the closed A&E, and how disabled people are being treated, Its of course nonsense but this is what Labour cannot see they are putting so much fear into people.
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@alexroda many thanks for your words.. As i say after the tribunal in 2021 i was awarded the 10 points but in the letter i can't find anything about how long i'll receive the award. Will the pip assessment be face to face as i recall my last one was a big form i filled in then the appeal/tribunal was via telephone. Many thanks but even though it's very worrying for me there ain't much can do about it now & it's a long way off.
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Does anyone know if there is a website so you can see what mps are opposed to these benefit cuts? I’d like to see if my mp is opposing them
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@apples , Great. now you say that I would love to see that data too . Thanks for bringing this up👍
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I think we will only find that out after they have voted.
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I had a look earlier but could only find my mp was opposing benefit cuts in 2016 (she’s labour so weren’t in power then) I’d love to know if her stance has changed now
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I believe you’re right unless they speak out like Abbott, corbyn and McDonnell
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I’ve filled in the green paper consultation form. Here is the link to the form https://forms.office.com/pages/responsepage.aspx?id=6fbxllcQF0GsKIDN_ob4w8sPhcBFC_lLibLhGndbUv9UN0Y4UTYzNUVVM0lFUThFWFM3VVEwSFJPMCQlQCN0PWcu&route=shorturl
I’ve started an argument with my MP who is pro cuts. I’m just not going to let this lie!
DPAC (disabled people against the cuts) a grass roots organisation are organising protests up and down the country regarding the cuts. The next protest is on Wednesday 26th March in London. Link below
It’s not time for us to do nothing about these proposals! They are going to leave a lot of people destitute and penniless! The plan to cut a million people’s disability allowance and point them towards non existent jobs in a failing economy that is hurtling towards a big recession. We all must fight these cuts! The amount of stress and anxiety the proposals are causing is in humane.We must make them listen to us!
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sorry i meant the cuts are inhumane but spellcheck changed it and I’m blind!
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Thanks @Summerlove
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If they go ahead with the green paper it will be THIRD WORLD in society and we will live in a THIRD WORLD country. The country's economy will fall very fast and it may be the end of parliament and the British political system as we know it. Politics of this country will turn tribal with likes of Farage, UKIP, Andrew Tate, Conor McGregor now wanting to run in Ireland. What they are doing is one of the stupidest things and they don't realize it. We saw with Liz Truss what they did with the economy. It does not make sense at all.
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Yet, Universal Credit rate going up 1.7%, an extra £6.63 PER MONTH. ILA frozen. How on earth does that even pay for any utility, food increases? Why aren't we getting a 2 .8% increase like them?, not to mention all the perks they get and back handers they take. It's definitely them vs us.
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First off, very glad to see this discussion become a new tread with information in the orginal thread. I think a separate forum would be better, because there are so many posts in the previous threads that are triggering vents and not practical advice. It'll be the same here. Not very accessible, ironically enough.
Plus, many people are still posting seperate topics in other subforums.
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This isn’t what you’re meaning, but this website is very good. You can search for any MP and it tells you how they’ve voted on things in the past and I think what speeches they’ve made.
Obviously it doesn’t have any info on which MPs support these cuts, but it will show how they’ve voted on welfare matters in the past3 -
Hard agree. It's yet more evidence that Labour was captured by the same neoliberal capitalists that control the Tories.
The silver lining of these cuts is that more people are accepting this reality. The amount of people shocked that a Labour government are pushing these cuts - when evidence about how much those who control Labour hate for disabled people has been online for years - confirms how few people paid attention.
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So in other words, most of these MP won't rebel. Perhaps they will if somebody leaks their names.
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The UK has already been in freefall for many years, ever since the (long overdue) demise of the British Empire. Political policies post-2008 - including austerity and Brexit - have sped up this inevitable demise.
Labour have already lost the next election. Even if they fully U-turn on austerity and start realigning with the EU again, we won't forget this.
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Well I do agree with you but the austerity of 2008 which was calculated to punish the most vulnerable and was bought on by financial crisis will be much different to the proposed green paper on benefits in 2028/9 or whenever it is because:
1) Most businesses were still operating in 2008 2) Town centres were still packed with shops in 2008 3) The councils were not as poor as they are now, many being near bankrupt. 4) The political climate has never been this polarising.
I believe this green paper will bring the whole British political system of over 200 years down. Only question is do they realise this or do they just not care. Its all on this green paper and what they decide to do with it.
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