Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)
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@apples , Great. now you say that I would love to see that data too . Thanks for bringing this up👍
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I think we will only find that out after they have voted.
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I had a look earlier but could only find my mp was opposing benefit cuts in 2016 (she’s labour so weren’t in power then) I’d love to know if her stance has changed now
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I believe you’re right unless they speak out like Abbott, corbyn and McDonnell
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I’ve filled in the green paper consultation form. Here is the link to the form https://forms.office.com/pages/responsepage.aspx?id=6fbxllcQF0GsKIDN_ob4w8sPhcBFC_lLibLhGndbUv9UN0Y4UTYzNUVVM0lFUThFWFM3VVEwSFJPMCQlQCN0PWcu&route=shorturl
I’ve started an argument with my MP who is pro cuts. I’m just not going to let this lie!
DPAC (disabled people against the cuts) a grass roots organisation are organising protests up and down the country regarding the cuts. The next protest is on Wednesday 26th March in London. Link below
It’s not time for us to do nothing about these proposals! They are going to leave a lot of people destitute and penniless! The plan to cut a million people’s disability allowance and point them towards non existent jobs in a failing economy that is hurtling towards a big recession. We all must fight these cuts! The amount of stress and anxiety the proposals are causing is in humane.We must make them listen to us!
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sorry i meant the cuts are inhumane but spellcheck changed it and I’m blind!
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Thanks @Summerlove
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If they go ahead with the green paper it will be THIRD WORLD in society and we will live in a THIRD WORLD country. The country's economy will fall very fast and it may be the end of parliament and the British political system as we know it. Politics of this country will turn tribal with likes of Farage, UKIP, Andrew Tate, Conor McGregor now wanting to run in Ireland. What they are doing is one of the stupidest things and they don't realize it. We saw with Liz Truss what they did with the economy. It does not make sense at all.
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Yet, Universal Credit rate going up 1.7%, an extra £6.63 PER MONTH. ILA frozen. How on earth does that even pay for any utility, food increases? Why aren't we getting a 2 .8% increase like them?, not to mention all the perks they get and back handers they take. It's definitely them vs us.
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First off, very glad to see this discussion become a new tread with information in the orginal thread. I think a separate forum would be better, because there are so many posts in the previous threads that are triggering vents and not practical advice. It'll be the same here. Not very accessible, ironically enough.
Plus, many people are still posting seperate topics in other subforums.
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This isn’t what you’re meaning, but this website is very good. You can search for any MP and it tells you how they’ve voted on things in the past and I think what speeches they’ve made.
Obviously it doesn’t have any info on which MPs support these cuts, but it will show how they’ve voted on welfare matters in the past2 -
Hard agree. It's yet more evidence that Labour was captured by the same neoliberal capitalists that control the Tories.
The silver lining of these cuts is that more people are accepting this reality. The amount of people shocked that a Labour government are pushing these cuts - when evidence about how much those who control Labour hate for disabled people has been online for years - confirms how few people paid attention.
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So in other words, most of these MP won't rebel. Perhaps they will if somebody leaks their names.
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The UK has already been in freefall for many years, ever since the (long overdue) demise of the British Empire. Political policies post-2008 - including austerity and Brexit - have sped up this inevitable demise.
Labour have already lost the next election. Even if they fully U-turn on austerity and start realigning with the EU again, we won't forget this.
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I also do wonder where it all will end. I'm waiting for the full details and implications of these changes, which will likely become clearer after the Spring Statement and the release of the impact statement on Wednesday. This will outline the number of individuals affected by these decisions, including those who may be driven into poverty as a result. It's concerning to think about the potential consequences for our disabled and vulnerable citizens.
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Well I do agree with you but the austerity of 2008 which was calculated to punish the most vulnerable and was bought on by financial crisis will be much different to the proposed green paper on benefits in 2028/9 or whenever it is because:
1) Most businesses were still operating in 2008 2) Town centres were still packed with shops in 2008 3) The councils were not as poor as they are now, many being near bankrupt. 4) The political climate has never been this polarising.
I believe this green paper will bring the whole British political system of over 200 years down. Only question is do they realise this or do they just not care. Its all on this green paper and what they decide to do with it.
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Thank you @evelyncourtney very interesting
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Scope Mods, I saw this, he made a passionate case.
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I'll quote a passage from above.
"Disabled people are not a burden — we are valuable contributors to society when given the opportunity. Companies that employ disabled people thrive and become more profitable. That is a fact. Closing the disability employment gap by just half would inject £17 billion into the UK economy through increased tax revenue and reduced welfare dependency. That too is a fact. The Treasury is fully aware of this, yet it has chosen to back these cuts. That is disgraceful.
Scope’s governing documents make it clear that we are not a political organisation and must remain impartial. I respect this position. However, I have close friends in all three major political parties, and all of them are equally astonished and ashamed by this government’s actions and its loss of moral direction.
By speaking out, I may be asked to step down as Chair of Scope. If that happens, so be it. I stand by my words. If this is to be my final statement in this role, then I am proud that it is on behalf of Scope. Scope is the only organisation unwavering in its commitment to an equal future for disabled people. It is the only organisation tackling the challenges and opportunities that affect the largest minority group in the world.
Sir Robin Millar is chairman of disability equality charity Scope"
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Me too, I hope he isn't asked to step down from Scope.
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