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  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 447 Empowering

    who was it please that terrified you , was it a woman on youtube ?

  • Martinp
    Martinp Community Member Posts: 248 Empowering

    just watched Kendall at this 40million launch in West London. Apparently she knows that over 1million disabled people can and want to work, she said she has spoken to so many of us and wants to help us, she also said that she still thinks we are taking the Micky and fraud is rife.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    morning Catherine,

    I expected her to know what she’s talking about being ex dwp etc. but I’m more confused now. She mentioned another site you can join ( obviously for a fee) to get advice and help with claims so I think this is her business rather than just helping people.

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Community Member Posts: 394 Pioneering

    If you still are struggling to email your MP for any reason or worried about not being able to word it in exactly the right way for greatest effect, as I've been doing, here's what I consider a truly excellent template on the Benefits and Work forum. I hope that it might help some of you. 🤞😊

    Letter template to MPs about green paper - Benefits and Work Forum

    Good Luck!! 🍀 👍

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    morning Sarah,

    It was the justice journals. She’s ex dwp and took them to court . Her last two videos have confused me regarding the 4 points rule . And ppl in her comments said the same thing . She reckons the 4 point rule was just for calling lcwra and in the last couple of days they’ve extended it to pip. I thought it was always for pip and health element then added . I think she charges ppl for her help as she mentions joining up and she takes on your case .

  • luvpink
    luvpink Community Member Posts: 5,170 Championing

    Not everyone knows what are meant by abbreviations.

  • luvpink
    luvpink Community Member Posts: 5,170 Championing

    Yes I know but as I said when people use abbreviations not everyone knows what they mean.

    I find it happens a lot on this forum.

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Community Member Posts: 297 Empowering

    Hi noonebelieves, glad you took yourself over there. my linking skills seem to have taken a nosedive 😁

    B&W have helped me so much, I reached out to them roughly 12 years ago and their help was impressive. The guides are a must have, for all that can of course afford the yearly membership of around £20. After joining you do get a reduction after so long, I only pay £11 a year now as they give discount codes, they really do try to keep the cost to the subscriber to a minimum. The relevant and up to date info plus the guides are highly recommended. I like that they have volunteers who have worked in the field for years who when you post a question will help with your individual circumstances or if they cant they will point you in a direction you could perhaps try. I know I am praising them a lot here but I only ever give praise where praise is due.

    I agree that not being able to find past posts on SCOPE is a bit of a pain, scrolling through pages and pages of posts trying to remember where we posted can be irksome at times but that's just a tiny niggle, I like the community here but the times I can post is limited by my illness.

    I hope folk fill in that questionnaire if they are able, the results could give a good indication of the financial implications of the ''Pathways to work'' nonsense and provide a reasonable ''impact statement''.

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 447 Empowering

    @secretsquirrel1 , I agree with you about the justice journal video. I've stopped watching her , she made me feel really down . You're right she made no sense .

    Just because she is an ex dwp employee doesn't make her an expert , so I am not watching her now .

    I watch the dynamic duo video's , I'm still looking for better though , I am confused without being even more confused 😄

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I watched her live the other day . She claimed that anyone who thinks they’re not going to have payments cut are wrong as it’s happening already. She then used an example from her comments. After scaring ppl she told them that it looks like dwp hadn’t given him TP by mistake. Any problem join her new community where she has solicitors etc ( didn’t mention the fee though). Then she spoke of 4 points for lcwra and 4?points for pip . In the comments someone asked if that meant two 4 point descriptors plus other comments. She just liked the comment as she couldn’t answer it but it made it look as though it’s true. I’ve asked scope to clarify the 4 point rule on here and they havent replied either.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    didn’t the OBR claim the cuts made wouldn’t be £5b as claimed so reeves then made more cuts to make up for it ? Plus I’ve read that the cuts actually amount to £10b.

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Community Member Posts: 394 Pioneering

    I have been notified by Disabled People Against Cuts of a new petition to sign on UK Government and Parliament' website to Protect Disabled People Who Cannot Work from Planned Cuts to Benefits.

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/721547

    PLEASE SIGN AND SHARE!! 👍😊

  • Danny123
    Danny123 Community Member Posts: 229 Empowering

    Ive just watched something on YouTube called the justice journal.... It's a women who worked for the DWP and sued them for discrimination and won ........ I don't know if anyone else has seen it , but she paints a very different picture to how I've understood all these changes , I'll go through how I understood it and then I'll go through what she said , I'd like to hear your thoughts on this as maybe I got it wrong 🤷

    My thoughts are ....

    March 2026 , new claims for LCWRA are cut and frozen , existing claims just frozen ....

    Anyone who is in receipt of LCWRA before April 2026 and has a standard reassessment before or after said date and is still found to have LCWRA and is not moved to lcw or found fit to work remains in LCWRA and is under the standard reassessment until 2028 when the wca is abolished....

    November 2026 , The new PIP criteria takes over from the old PIP criteria ( 4 points daily living plus 8 across the board to qualify ) , for new PIP claiments , existing PIP claiments that are due a reassessment and existing claiments that receive a mix of both PIP and LCWRA that are due a reassessment....

    Then in 2028 wca gets abolished and pip takes over for everyone 🤷

    Now this womens thoughts differ a bit in what she is saying

    Now there's alot of people in my situation that are on a mix of CBESA) / NSESA + LCWRA but WITHOUT PIP .... She is claiming that everyone that has a reassessment after November 2026 will be assessed through the new criteria PIP assessment , and I'm not sure that's right 🤔

    She also claims we will all be expected to look for work even if we somehow manage to pass the new pip assessment and get the health element....

    She then states that even if we get the new health element we will be 200 pounds a month worse off than we are now on LCWRA....

    I don't want to be unkind in anyway as ....

    1. Maybe I'm wrong and she's right

    2. Or two she's only trying to help

    But it did come across a little scaremongery ....

    Could my scope mates give me there thoughts on this as it's thrown me a bit and like I say if I'm wrong and she's right I'd like to know , cheers 👍🏻

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Community Member Posts: 297 Empowering

    Hi Sarah, if you can, try Benefits and Work. I believe they are one of the best out there for information, always up to date and very reliable.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I really hope they’re found unlawful in the courts . I know people keep saying it’s going through parliament so courts can’t intervene on parliament law but we still have rights under the equality act and the ECHR should protect us . The government are not going to change their mind unless forced to either by being voted down or being found unlawful, imo .

    They’re truly awful and incompetent.

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Community Member Posts: 297 Empowering

    I agree, confusing. She seems ok as a person, I know some find her a little dominating. I was very muddled to be honest by her comments, I think she has maybe added to the confusion. Personally, I wont be watching again as she didn't answer in her video any of the questions folk were asking about the 4 point rule and PIP. She stated her video was meant to give clarity however, she didn't actually answer that question and instead she talked about the April 7th Spring statement - NEW PIP CRITERIA for Disability Reform paper.

    Oh and you only need 4 points in any one descriptor in the daily living section of PIP then the rest can be made up of points from the other descriptors to get you the 8 points needed for a standard award. I cant see anywhere where you need 12 points so 4+8 to get an award for PIP unless anyone else knows different.

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Community Member Posts: 677 Championing
    edited April 2025

    You’re doing so well, Great efforts @Catherine21!

    Don’t worry if we don’t get a reply. We will have evidence to show when the time comes how they’ve been blocking doors when we’ve tried to approach. We have the upper hand!

    Pls Go take a look at the Scope’s MP thread – there are some empowering outcomes we’ve achieved by supporting each other and spreading the campaign to oppose the government’s discriminatory proposal. @jul1aorways has also shared a powerful MP template and a new petition on the official parliamentary petition page. It’s worth spending some time on that thread too, and there are a significant number of signatures in our Scope campaigns –heading towards 100,000 👏👏

    Stay motivated, and let’s continue supporting and empowering each other through this!✌️

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