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won’t let me sign they have enough at moment 20
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charlie72Online Community Member Posts: 154 Empowering11:34AMI have started a petition on Change.org to oppose the Pathways To Work Green Paper and a call to get it scrapped altogether.WhatTheOnline Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,825 ChampioningApril 27edited April 27Optionsnoonebelieves, you wrote this -"The “Pathways to Work” proposals are not just tweaks to benefits. They represent a radical, brutal overhaul of the social contract between the state and disabled citizens."No. It began on 1st April 2013.Pathways to Work is now over 20 years old in the making.Pathways to Work is 20+ years old.
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I put my pip in June July last year end of award was March 2025 got paper based two weeks before award ended got 13 for daily living 4 points for face to face but that doesn't mean it be same when reassessed I'm concerned about wca and forced to job centre I honestly don't think they will try to get you into work with your diagnosis it's Mental health they wanting to target God just put us out of our misery I prey they water it down trying to find posts of hope but all roads lead to Rome it's so hard with invisible illness so hard and years of masking I can't drive no point trying it's impossible for my brain to absorb one of my answers would be save get a van live in it yes I've written to so many mps don't care if I'm out of thier area got to keep pushing through
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PTW will not be scrapped.
Ia*n Dunc*n Sm*th has nurtured these ideas in Parliament for the last 30 years.
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He went all around the houses and ended up saying he will be keeping an eye on things bit champions try to work or whatever it is I wrote back saying it's a mass culling said about job centre the pit of hell loads of stuff and said voters won't forget who fought for them emailed ranyner saying can relate with her my dad also has bipolar wrote about myself I don't care I pour my heart out got reply from couple mps and charities at night I Google all diffrent mps I'm hyper focused my daughter is like don't right anything disrespectful god got to laugh actually I feel really scared today
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I think the media are pushing this MH and neurodivergent narrative tbh . I’ve also read they’re concentrating on invisible conditions, arthritis etc . Unless they change it it’s supposed to be how the condition affects you . If you’ve been given a 4 point already which is hard to get ( I get enhanced but no 4 ) then I can’t see how they can remove it with no explanation. I think it’ll be harder for me as although I qualified on paper for a 4 next time I’ll have to fight for it . You have a 4 so they know you deserve it , I would try not to worry if you can . I emailed starmer this morning and said your policies are ruining the Labour Party, you need to show you care about the people and change this reforms especially the 4 points. I’d already told him my conditions and that even bed /house bound mostly I still didn’t get a 4 point as assessors don’t award them .
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Its awful, I am so stressed as everyone are, I got 4 points in my first pip application that was turned down , then in 2023 I got awarded , but no 4 points and put the same condition down , my re-assessment is in now , I cannot sleep well , but this could take months to get a yes or no . My conditions are worse now and I also have hearing loss with hearing aids on it . I have to just wait and see . I forgot to ask for a phone assessment , but they will send an appointment if they are going to assess me again and then I will ring and ask for the phone assessment , it would make me really ill if I had to physically go and have a face to face, I've put i cannot look strangers in the eye and I hide behind dark glasses and a hand fan the spanish type .
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IIt's easy for me to say try not to worry even from this point keep all doctors letters or appointments write a daily diary still carry on as if your making a case for yourselves honestly it could work out well
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I don't trust them I don't feel safe at all this needs to be watered down big time it's down to the mps now I wrote absolutely everything I didn't listen to the people on tiktok advice we know ourselves better than anyone I didn't use certain words only my own be blunt and to the point so good your doing now I feel for people doing after changes I prey this os watered down because might be ok for year or so but will come round to us all who can I email next
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I have heard of people getting a paper based assessment and I really hope I do when my time comes. I’m sick , literally, of saying the same thing to them for conditions with no cure or treatment. I just looked back at my last assessment and from my form and what I said I should have I got a 4 . I wonder if they knew in advance though I’m probably overthinking it. This time I’ll go MR and tribunal for the 4 points. Imagine the ivermectin a million of us going to appeal . Even those who don’t qualify for a 4 will now appeal when before they would’ve been happy at standard . I don’t see how they’ll cope with it, the system will fall.
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See, I came on here thinking this community would have some compassion for others losing there homes and money, but I found some very selfish people wishing or glad other lose their money instead of them. I'm absolutely appalled at some of the comments on here, blaming pensioners for getting a rise and refugees for seeking help. Some of you need to grow up and do what you were supposed to do and help each other.
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Brilliant work but if past record is anything to go by the gov. seem to do as they please.
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I think you should read back and stay on track with the topic .
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Sorry, @WhatThe,
I don’t know why you have to keep repeating this to me on every thread, despite me being kind and clearly expressing my stance. Let me say it once again: 👇🏼
I have clearly stated my views that this current Pathways to Work Green Paper proposal is threatening the life of my family, including my children. I am not referring to any other Pathways to Work proposal here, nor anything that happened whatever years ago.
Many others, like me, share the same views and are fighting this shared cause. For the first time, we have HOPE that our collective voices can impact the trajectory of these proposals getting implemented.
Please, assuming you are akin, I kindly plead with you not to create any doubts or ruin our HOPE in moving forward. Please 🙏🏽3 -
new petition on the DPAC website
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/723991
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Please sign and share this new Parliamentary Petition backed by a few DPO’s :
Abandon DWP Pathways to Work Green Paper & create National Disability Strategy2 -
Thanks very much for sharing this @noonebelieves ... signed. Very best wishes to you.
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You’re welcome @Santosha12 . Nice to hear from you. Hope you’re keeping well 😊
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I'm sorry I haven't explained this clearly enough.
Pathways to Work is not new. The policies are not new. Research its history.
I'm telling you that the risk to claimants is high not because of any proposals but because of alterations to the WCA process - twice - which escaped most people's attention. It's time for fact-checking not wishful thinking.
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Hope you are ok
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