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  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 447 Empowering

    With reviews it is a year before the pip award ends, so you don't lose that year .

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 447 Empowering
    edited May 2025

    One moderate Labour MP said the party had won a “cost of living election” last July but then had failed to improve the situation for people’s cost of living, while actively making it worse for the elderly and disabled.“That would be a very tough sell anyway but when coupled with countless millions the government can find to house young men arriving on boats every day, it is unsustainable to say we just can’t afford the winter fuel payment or Pip,” he said, referring to personal independence payments, a form of benefit for the sick and disabled.“Reinstating winter fuel and revisiting Pip changes are the minimum that must be done if we want to prevent a Reform wipeout,” he added.Another Labour MP who is seen as a supporter of Starmer said: “I’m sure the government is reflecting on the issues that contributed to the losses last week, including winter fuel payments and disability and health benefits.”


    https://www.ft.com/content/8a045ba5-a3fd-42d5-80d7-d2f57347a86d

    

    Keir Starmer is facing fresh pressure from his Labour MPs to reverse cuts to the winter fuel allowance after the government’s welfare decisions were partly blamed for the party’s setbacks in Thursday’s local elections.

    Labour MPs press Keir Starmer to rethink benefits cuts after local elections

  • luvpink
    luvpink Community Member Posts: 5,170 Championing

    My pip review is underway 17 months early.

    I was shocked to get it so early.

  • Girl_No1
    Girl_No1 Community Member Posts: 413 Trailblazing

    Oh, wow @luvpink … that is really early. 🤔

    Do you mind saying what was the duration of your award, and if you're of working age?

    That information may allow us to begin to see a pattern of how they are approaching this in advance of the expected (and dreaded) changes.

  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community Member Posts: 17,413 Championing

    Hi @luvpink - that really is early. I believe that for a while review foms were being sent out about 8 months early (tho the DWP can review at any time).

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 447 Empowering

    that is very early , hope it all goes well for you .

  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community Member Posts: 17,413 Championing

    The link that sarah_lea provided also went on to reference Health Equity North's report saying,''….many Labour campaigners said benefit cuts were a more potent issue in the local elections in the so-called “Red Wall”, the former Labour heartlands of the Midlands and northern England. Over the weekend some MPs have been sharing research suggesting the proposed changes to Pip could have a “devastating” effect on some of the most deprived communities in England. The report from Health Equity North, a group of academics, said the cuts would fall hardest on the north-east and north-west of England. “The 10 worst-hit constituencies are all Labour-held, and in ‘Red Wall’ areas…”

    I've just emailed Kemi Badenoch including a link to Health Equity North's report: https://www.healthequitynorth.co.uk/app/uploads/PIP-REPORT-1.pdf as I feel it's important reading for any MP that may hopefully listen.

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  • TK1
    TK1 Community Member Posts: 44 Contributor

    someone asked if anyone has been awarded 4 points in PIP. I had 4 points in the cooking activity in 2019 for MH but this was reduced to 2 points following assessment in 2024. So having 4 points now does not mean you will automatically keep these points.


    The Labour Party called UC 'cruel and inhumane' when UC was introduced. These words apply to what this Labour govt is doing to vulnerable and disabled people. It's disgraceful. I only hope that a legal change to these unjust cuts. I won't be around long if they go ahead. I'm already struggling to cope.

  • Danny123
    Danny123 Community Member Posts: 229 Empowering

    I still have no idea what you mean about the 2016 reforms ? It's Confusing me alot .....

    Last assessment was 2019 for ESA , I was supposed to have another in 2021 , so six years in November since a reassessment and 4 years overdue .... Technically I've never been assessed for lcwra , always ESA support group got put in lcwra automatically because of support group status

    I voullentatrlly moved to UC in 2022 , I now get cbesa every two weeks and UC at end of the month with deducting my UC

    I was of the impression I'm just well overdue a reassessment and when I get one it will be a UC 50 form instead of ESA50 , which are nearly identical in descriptors and questions , if I pass it will cover both my cbesa and support group .…

    And because I don't get pip any changes won't affect me till 2028 when wca is abolished and new pip criteria takes over the rest ....

    But this 2016 reforms are really throwing me , I've got serve OCD and can't take anything in but I thought I'd finally got a handle on this but now I'm not sure 🤦

  • Danny123
    Danny123 Community Member Posts: 229 Empowering

    Yes but it won't effect existing lcwra claimed from November 2026 , it will only affect us when the wca is abolished in 2028 .... It will only affect existing and new claimants of pip from November 2026 , if you lcwra claiments that don't get pip get reassessed after that date they will still be reassessed through the WCA until it's scrapped in 2028

  • Danny123
    Danny123 Community Member Posts: 229 Empowering

    Also if I passed a reassessment in 2019 for cbesa with a income related top up , surely that wca would of been after the new 2016 reforms ? I've been led to believe that the lcwra reassessment is exactly the same as ESA , so when it comes around again surely it should be the same as what I had in 2019 , except it will be a UC50 instead of a esa50 ?? .... Or should I be expecting something different ? .... Because if not , all this talk of reforms that happened nearly ten years ago are just confusing what's going on

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Community Member Posts: 394 Pioneering

    That wouldn't surprise me but could please tell me where you got that information from?

  • luvpink
    luvpink Community Member Posts: 5,170 Championing
  • Middleton
    Middleton Community Member Posts: 274 Empowering

    Its a question, i didnt hear it from anywhere other than wondering if anyone with a long award has been reassessed much sooner ; but i also know they can assess at anytime, but still!

  • Topcat71
    Topcat71 Community Member Posts: 194 Empowering

    The not knowing is making us more sick. I felt more pain since all this started so I presume because I stressed it making things worse for me. After Christmas is going to be awful in 2026. It will be a year of much upset for many of us.

  • Middleton
    Middleton Community Member Posts: 274 Empowering

    Thats my original point! i think theyre going to just get through reviews asap, no matter the length of award

  • luvpink
    luvpink Community Member Posts: 5,170 Championing

    I have two long standing shoulder injuries and I can't reach behind my back but I'm having a problem how to get it across to them on the form that it prevents me washing my back and putting upper body clothes on.

    They have only given me 3 weeks to complete and return the form so I am aiming to send it on Friday and tell them I wave requested my medical records from my Doctor and I intend to send further evidence at a layer date.

    All this and I unwell at the moment.

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 447 Empowering

    They want us under stress and unwell, I hope you get a long award this time well into retirement . I also hope I get a long award into my retirement . I'm no good to any employer I have agoraphobia I'm nearly deaf and can hardly walk .

  • anon85
    anon85 Community Member Posts: 23 Contributor

    With regards to lcwra, where do you find out if you were deemed " substantial risk " ?

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