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I hope you're OK @Ranald 👍. I got your email re Oxford, don't know if it's a gremlin but couldn't link into it but got the gist. Didn't want to just not acknowledge it!
Never got back to my book 😬🙄, well, one page but there's always tomorrow.
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The book will keep. I go back to them after months sometimes.
My deleted messages were because I felt I had allowed myself to get sucked into an unwinnable argument, so thought better of it and deleted them.
You can't hope to change the opinion of the fanatic, and I should refrain from feeding trolls.
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I understand @Ranald 🫠😊. My career required highly-developed critical and analytical thinking skills which naturally came into use when I considered, albeit briefly I hasten to add 🤣, various conspiracy theories.
There's an abundance of research showing that these critical and analytical skills are are not so well-developed in conspiracy theorists for several reasons. People interested can avail themselves of that research - it might help to become a bit more discerning and reduce the (extremely harmful to some), misinformation.
Anyway, presumptions made about how I think directed towards me, is literally like water off a duck's back. I tend towards engaging with people who use moderate language and a modicum of decorum and I make no apology for that.
It would be like flogging a dead horse to tackle what are incredulous and bizarre outpourings. But hey, my ancestors very bravely fought for our freedom of speech; and it's my perogative to ignore what I've determined to be not only nonsense, but in some instances, a blatant abuse of those very freedoms, particularly from 'over the pond'.
I've got bigger fish to fry 😊.
This week we've got the VE 80th anniversary celebrations which, for me, is a special time.
BTW, re book - after reading just the one page from the second half I can't wait months so hoping I finish it this week, think it's 114 pages, and I remain very grateful for the recommendation 🙏.
Note to SCOPE: Is it a good idea to move to a new thread the 'conspiracy' theorists' posts? No problem if not - I myself can easily 'scroll on' but concerned for others who wish to focus solely on the Green Paper on this thread. Thanks 😊.
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Very erudite, point well made. Allow me to sum it up; you can't educate pork! 🤭
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someone asked if anyone has been awarded 4 points in PIP. I had 4 points in the cooking activity in 2019 for MH but this was reduced to 2 points following assessment in 2024. So having 4 points now does not mean you will automatically keep these points.
The Labour Party called UC 'cruel and inhumane' when UC was introduced. These words apply to what this Labour govt is doing to vulnerable and disabled people. It's disgraceful. I only hope that a legal change to these unjust cuts. I won't be around long if they go ahead. I'm already struggling to cope.2 -
I still have no idea what you mean about the 2016 reforms ? It's Confusing me alot .....
Last assessment was 2019 for ESA , I was supposed to have another in 2021 , so six years in November since a reassessment and 4 years overdue .... Technically I've never been assessed for lcwra , always ESA support group got put in lcwra automatically because of support group status
I voullentatrlly moved to UC in 2022 , I now get cbesa every two weeks and UC at end of the month with deducting my UC
I was of the impression I'm just well overdue a reassessment and when I get one it will be a UC 50 form instead of ESA50 , which are nearly identical in descriptors and questions , if I pass it will cover both my cbesa and support group .…
And because I don't get pip any changes won't affect me till 2028 when wca is abolished and new pip criteria takes over the rest ....
But this 2016 reforms are really throwing me , I've got serve OCD and can't take anything in but I thought I'd finally got a handle on this but now I'm not sure 🤦
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Yes but it won't effect existing lcwra claimed from November 2026 , it will only affect us when the wca is abolished in 2028 .... It will only affect existing and new claimants of pip from November 2026 , if you lcwra claiments that don't get pip get reassessed after that date they will still be reassessed through the WCA until it's scrapped in 2028
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Also if I passed a reassessment in 2019 for cbesa with a income related top up , surely that wca would of been after the new 2016 reforms ? I've been led to believe that the lcwra reassessment is exactly the same as ESA , so when it comes around again surely it should be the same as what I had in 2019 , except it will be a UC50 instead of a esa50 ?? .... Or should I be expecting something different ? .... Because if not , all this talk of reforms that happened nearly ten years ago are just confusing what's going on
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That wouldn't surprise me but could please tell me where you got that information from?
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Many people believe they are fully protected until 2028 if they’re already in the LCWRA group, but that protection only lasts if they still qualify when reassessed. The government is restarting reassessments from April 2026, especially for people who were awarded LCWRA because of short-term conditions or under the ‘substantial risk’ rules, those whose health might have improved.
If, during reassessment, you are still found to meet the criteria for LCWRA, your entitlement and payment rate will stay the same until the WCA is abolished in 2028. However, if you no longer meet the criteria, you could lose the extra support. So, the guarantee of protection only applies if you continue to qualify after being reassessed.
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Well it's all gone wrong for them they came in like bull in a China shop played thier cards to soon alienated the whole of UK within 2 months watch the house of cards fall
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Me too everyday I haven't email starmer but loads mps keep up the good work
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That's why keep emailing mps
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I totally get it but starting to believe it will be watered down all this reform came a good time yes I've filled out alot try and take day by day not easy I know but we will be ok can't wait for the day we all come on here after it's watered down thinking of you your not alone
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Passerby, his name is Iain Duncan Smith.
Not any time soon. It's taken me the best part of 10 years to understand what he did and how. Explaining it is quite another matter.
The bereaved families need to know the truth even if you don't.
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I really appreciate the time and effort you’ve invested in understanding the impact of Iain Duncan Smith’s 2012 benefit reforms, and I share your sympathy for all the families and friends who have tragically lost loved ones to suicide during this period.
Since you’ve mentioned it’s taken you ten years to fully grasp what happened, I’m genuinely interested. What are you doing now with your findings to support the bereaved families or help prevent further harm? Are you involved in any campaigns, sharing your research with advocacy groups, or working with others to push for change as we face these new reforms?
With so many of us focused on stopping harmful new policies in 2025 and avoiding a repeat of the loss of life, I can’t help but wonder why you’re not yet willing to share your findings or take action now. Your insights into what went wrong all those years ago, and what we can do to stop these proposals, could make a real difference. What’s holding you back from stepping up and using your knowledge to help prevent further harm?
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Hi my was for 4 years.
I am 61 so I will be nearly 62 when my award expires.
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Its a question, i didnt hear it from anywhere other than wondering if anyone with a long award has been reassessed much sooner ; but i also know they can assess at anytime, but still!
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The not knowing is making us more sick. I felt more pain since all this started so I presume because I stressed it making things worse for me. After Christmas is going to be awful in 2026. It will be a year of much upset for many of us.
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Thats my original point! i think theyre going to just get through reviews asap, no matter the length of award
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