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  • calflye
    calflye Online Community Member Posts: 100 Empowering

    It would be in the decision letter. My decision letter for my UC WCA says I was awarded based on substantial risk

  • Danny123
    Danny123 Online Community Member Posts: 28 Connected

    Forgive me if I'm wrong but hasn't that always been the case anyway .....that if your reassessed and you don't get awarded again you loose entitlement to the benefit you receive ? ..... Nothing has changed regarding that .... I'm saying that people in my situation of recieving esa and lcwra but NOT PIP would still be reassessed under the wca even if we are reassessed AFTER November 2026 , as the new criteria that kicks in then is only for claimants that receive PIP .... People that don't receive it will continue to be reassessed through wca until it's abolishment on 2028 when the new pip criteria will take over for everyone else as well ....

    That's what I was saying previously , I'm just concentrating on passing that assessment as long as I do things will stay the same and then I'll deal with the new criteria when it comes

    Like I say technically I've never been assessed for lcwra , my last reassessment was for ESA , it was November 2019 and I was due another in 2021 , so it will be 6 years in November since I've had one and will be 4 overdue

    I voullentatrlly moved to UC in 2022 so technically I've never been assessed for UC , I was automatically given lcwra because of my support group status , I was of the impression that the uc50 is the same as the ESA50 in regards to questions and descriptors so it's no different to the ESA50 I've always filled in before , and the uc50 covers both the cbesa part of my claim as well as the lcwra part

    It was all the mentioning of being assessed under the new 2016 reforms that completely threw me , are these somehow different from what I've always been used too ? Very confusing

  • Bluebell21
    Bluebell21 Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 11,082 Championing

    Can I ask again please? I do not want my post to get lost.

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,140 Championing

    This is my understanding after reading the new changes. If you don’t get PIP, you will still have the usual Work Capability Assessment when you’re reassessed, even after the new rules start in November 2026. You won’t have to do the PIP test unless you actually claim PIP. The WCA will keep being used for people not on PIP until 2028, and only after that will everyone move over to the new system based on the PIP assessment. So, for now and even after 2026, nothing changes for you unless you start claiming PIP.

  • anon85
    anon85 Online Community Member Posts: 10 Listener

    So I didn't get an award letter in the post for my lcwra claim, only a letter sent via email to be read via pdf. On that letter it simply stated I'd been found to have limited capability to work etc and there was no mention of substantial risk. So should I take that to mean, since there was no mention of this, that I didn't fall into the substantial risk category? If so, is this a good thing or bad thing, in light of the new welfare proposals?

  • judie
    judie Online Community Member Posts: 322 Empowering

    Go online and look up DWP Right of Access. There is a very simple form to fill out and within a month they have to send you the information you've asked for. You'll need your NI number. Good luck

  • judie
    judie Online Community Member Posts: 322 Empowering
    edited May 5

    I don't know myself but you're right, it's an important part of the planned changes. Hopefully someone can help you @Bluebell21

  • Fuzzy200
    Fuzzy200 Online Community Member Posts: 10 Listener

    This makes intreasting reading. Keep the pressure up on Labours MPs.

    https://liveapp.inews.co.uk/category/3676243/content.html

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Online Community Member Posts: 338 Empowering
    edited May 5
  • Bluebell21
    Bluebell21 Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 11,082 Championing
  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 216 Empowering

    I see! Well my own experience is not very great. I was given an ongoing award of PIP last year, for the first time. It's important to me though that the DWP wait for the full ten years as I will be two years into state pension age so exempt from the new rules, if the proposals go through.

    However, if they do pull me in before pension age at least I have two 4 point activities on my PIP DL.

    The problem there is, with the way they are going, they may do a lot of "revising down" of the points, to make sure that they fail you then hope that you don't feel up to taking it to tribunal.

    Sadly, I think that is something we are all going to have to face.

    I decided to do some research myself anyway and the government says that if you have a severe, stable or deteriorating health condition and it is likely to be lifelong that under the new rules you will be likely to get an indefinite award instead of the ongoing one.

    A lot of people who get an ongoing award, with a light touch review are approaching state pension age anyway.

    My theory is that state pensioners who get PIP and those approaching that age are of less interest to the DWP as they are more concerned with younger adults and the middle aged claiments.

    I would guess, as you probably do that there will be so many people losing their disability benefits, all at the same time that the DWP would have to prioritise them. Particularly as I'm sure that the appeal rate would rise to a level that's never been seen before.

    That's all on top of the DWP not being able to recruit and train staff!! It's going to be chaos, with recording breaking wait times.

    I can't imagine that they are going to want to be bothered with the disabled at pension age or those near it.

    Just a theory though! That and we know just how unpredictable they are, forever moving the goalposts.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 216 Empowering
    edited May 5
    No 10 reviewing winter fuel payment cut after Labour slump in local elections!

    Government fears further electoral losses from unpopular policy as well as from planned £5bn of benefits cuts!

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/may/05/no-10-reviewing-winter-fuel-payment-cut-after-labour-slump-in-local-elections

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 845 Championing

    the link doesn’t work. Does it say they’re looking into changing the reforms ?

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 845 Championing

    wow that is early. Mines up next February and I haven’t had my review form yet . Don’t know if that’s good or bad . Recently reviews seemed to be paper based so I’m hoping this time I miss the dreaded assessment, though I doubt it . Have you asked them why so soon or taken advice from CAB as to whether it’s even legal ?

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 845 Championing

    I recently spoke to UC about my migration over . I mentioned I’d heard they’re assessing everyone on lcwra before the changes come into effect. The girl said no they wouldn’t even have the staff to do it .

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 845 Championing
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 845 Championing

    it wouldn’t let me read it as I’m not a member of the guardian but I read it on DPAC and it said they’re coming back for more cuts .

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Online Community Member Posts: 338 Empowering

    Yes , I posted a link further up that said MP's warned the PM that he needs to re-think the benefits cuts because the votes for Reform were in protest of the cuts . Let's hope this is the turning point .

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