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Legislation to pip scoring could be introduced as early as this month ! but not effective until november 2026 (taken from vid)

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But how if it’s not been voted on and not gone to the house or lords ?

Because they see life from a totally different standpoint to us.

It's because they operate from a narcissistic mind, which has no empathy. They only see other people as units, to be manipulated for their own ends.

They are only capable of thinking about what they can grab for themselves in the way of power and privileges, they do not have a worldview where the needs of others even register.

Something that's very difficult for moral people who consider the needs of others to understand, unfortunately. 😔

It also shows that these cuts continue to only be about saving money, not about any disabled person, even if they were capable, actually moving into work. 😳

How are you? 😊 I haven't seen you on here for a while.

You're right about keep fighting. Look at what we have achieved already in helping to turn that tide in our favour.

I believe that we can achieve so much more if we just simply keep going, it doesn't matter what they try to throw at us. We have the support our DPOs, family, friends, carers, MPs and the majority of public opinion on our side.

Most difficult things in life are defeated by sheer persistence, by just having the strength to keep going. There is always hope, it's just a matter of believing it's there whatever the nay sayers, might try to get you to believe. 🤗

✊The greatest enemy of the state is the truth. ✊

I think the Conservatives will vote for cuts.

That’s what I thought but I saw Ben claimant who has a YouTube channel with Ellen Clifford videos on it said he spoke to Tory minister and they’re voting against. Maybe they’ve realised it’s a vote winner to go against the cuts . They won’t win the vote on anything else as Tory’s now 3rd

Daily rollercoaster but I don’t think they were expecting this amount of fightback

Hi everyone

I haven't been here much lately but just wanted to let you know I have sent my pip reassessment form in the post today.

My award doesn't expire until Sept' 2026 and they gave me less than 3 weeks to complete it and get in sent to them.

I don't trust them so I posted it by next day special delivery and it cost me over £13 quid.

Its done now and I'm off for a four night stay cation here in Cornwall later today.

The weather forecast is looking good this week so hopefully I will have a good time.

Take care all.

I agree . Tory’s 3rd in the polls . This is the only vote winner they have

I'm sorry. 🙏 I didn't mean to worry you!

It's being said that because the government are pushing through the proposals with primary legislation, without consultation on the parts of it that are most damaging to us, that the DPOs are saying that they are actually better off challenging them through the courts after the legislation has gone through.

That may sound alarming but is not as bad as it sounds.

Previous governments have not tried to put benefit cuts through in this way before so the DPOs are having to deal with it differently.

After the law is made, they will then have plenty of time until it's implemented next year to challenge the government about how it goes against equality and human rights laws.

Depriving a protected group, like the disabled of the costs of their disability needs is unlawful. So is depriving anyone of the basics of living like, food, clothing, heating and shelter as the government are going to drive high numbers of us into destitution and homelessness. 😞

There is not consulting with us on the parts of the legislation that will affect us the most and not doing it properly with other proposals. Plus, them not being prepared to wait until the essential OBR impact assessment which is not due to October. All that is potentially unlawful. 👍

Remember too that there is a bigger Local Election with more MPs and councillors standing, this time next year before most of the legislation comes into force.

We have so many people on our side. Our family, friends, carers, quite a few Labour MPs and the general public. I've just read that their support for people in poverty as many of us are has gone up from 54% to 72% in just the last 6 months! 🤗

Lastly, something that is very important. That is that the deprived areas in this country are under mostly Labour MPs. As so many could be voted out by us and our supporters they are genuinely worried about being in a job this time next year, never mind the General Election!

There is such a big outcry from Labour Mps, even one or two ministers, that it's threatening the unity of the party.

Starmer, Reeves and Kendall have really painted themselves into a corner. They are damned if they make this Green Paper into law and damned if they don't. They are hamstrung by the WFA too.

There is plenty to be hopeful about. There really is. 😊