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Is there no law centre near you or similar in your local council ? Could you write to your MP as I asked advice from mine and they referred me to someone in my local council. If you definitely can’t get help I would take your time to read it and do research. Even watch some YouTube videos where the questions are explained. Plus get a copy of your medical notes and any supporting evidence.
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I'm on a mix of contribution based ESA and lcwra UC....I was thinking of trying to claim pip but I'm just not up to it .... The way it looks at the moment I think I will just stay as I am and I should carry on getting reassessed through the WCA until it's abolishment in 2028 then when the pip assessment takes over ill do it then .... Not only that but alot can change between now and then , I personally think they might give transitional protection to people in my scenario , or some sort of net , as it would just leave people in a terrible position
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Hi @Passerby - you can see the initial claim form here:
Seems like this will not fill you with any trepidation! Good for you, & myself & others have seen such terrible info others have received on the forum from Citizens Advice that I wouldn't recommend them.
Yes, PIP assessments are still mainly by phone & you can ask for a phone assessment anyway if you'd struggle with one in person. (Labour want to re-introduce face to face assessments).
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It was the government rhetoric last year that made me apply for PIP, in a way hedging my bets & to try and safeguard my Universal Credit for any future changes.
I moved into an adapted flat 2022 and figured it was now my best chance to be successful.
Much to my surprise I sailed through the process, paper based assessment where I was asked 3/4 questions, then told she would recommend Enhanced for both, medium term.
I came off the phone convinced I'd misunderstood, but was awarded Enhanced for both 6 years, which I recently learned is considered a significant award length.
Who knows what will happen in future, but what I do know is currently the money has been so valuable and changed my life.
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Yeah stick or twist ain't it , I just got a feeling that they couldn't get away with it , I honestly think there maybe some sort of transitional protection for people in our situation , I think I'll just concentrate on my next wca and try to pass that , then in 2028 have a crack at the pip when it takes over and if I fail take it to tribunal
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You've made some very good points there.👌Going back to the first point about softening up the electorate to accept disability cuts, which ended up on a scale never seen before, Labour didn't even mention the disabled in the manifesto before they were elected!!
Everything is done in such a dishonest manner, no wonder they are so hated! 😒
Talking of dishonesty I've discovered that there is speculation of a strong link between the new immigration white paper and welfare green paper.
Unfortunately that speculation makes a lot of sense. Starmer thinks that in keeping the immigrant workforce down that he can employ US in their place!! 😮
The majority of us are not fit to work at all and the smaller number of us that may be able to work need a lot of adjustments to do so and can only work in certain types of less physically demanding jobs. That and with no guarantee of regular attendance due to our ill health conditions.
No wonder they are not bothering with work schemes like Access to Work!! They want to put us in the immigrant's jobs, which we all know are physical ones. We can't wash cars or deliver takeaways!! 😳
What planet do these politicians think we come from! 👾😡
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I hope you don't mind me butting in but I would like to make the suggestion of becoming a member of Benefits and Work.
I've been disabled for 21 years now and have been through different organisations for help with filling in the forms and I have found none better than Benefits and Work. Some organisations were good but could not match their highly professional expert advice.
Seriously, I've found them second to none and I've been a member for many years. I'm not trying to outdo your suggestions, just to say that they are such a good option and are worth considering.
They have the advantage that if you can't get out easily, it's all online. There is also no waiting time for an appointment and their disability guides will allow you to fill in the form in your own time, or to suit someone who may be filling it in for you.
They only cost £20.00 a year too. Also, because they rely on members donations, organisations use them too, it means that they are totally independent of government interference which has got to be a good thing!! 😊
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Very well said! 👏 Especially as Transitional Protection is such a derisiory amount, very much less than the benefit it replaces. It soon disappears with a few inflationary benefit rises!
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Having read your post, I would like to say that, yes, most assessments have been done on the phone although I should warn you that face to face assessments are being bought back with the green paper proposals.
I'm afraid that I would not personally recommend the CAB. They started working with the government some years ago and, as I've found out by my own experience, they give out inaccurate information, no doubt with government interference.
With my experience of getting help with disability benefit over 21 years my biggest recommendation by far is to become a member of Benefits and Work. They are not just good for news, they really do the very best advice guides anywhere as far as I'm am concerned.
The membership only costs £20.00 a year. I do hope you might consider looking into this. 😊
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We often recommend people contact the CAB as many have found them very helpful @jul1aorways. There is no truth in your statement regarding government interference, so let's please not start spreading around misinformation.
I'm sure B&W are great, but many do not have the money to spend to pay for help, hence free (and also great) services such as ourselves and CAB.😊
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I read somewhere there are over a million immigrants on benefits and it makes me wonder if the attack on welfare is because of this . He has no intention of controlling immigration so I can’t help think is there a connection. I read once gained settled status they can also claim benefits such as uc and maybe pip I don’t know. As you say getting us to do their jobs would be killing two birds with one stone and maybe that’s why the uc basic uplift .
It’s also imo another attack on the older and elderly by stopping foreign workers in the care sector. Trying to force older sick people who need help themselves into working as carers for the elderly. Some days I can barely lift a cup without pain how could I lift an elderly person who’s relying solely on me. I noticed they haven’t mentioned other sectors such as the hospitality sector unless I haven’t heard anything about that . Only care .
I actually mentioned benefits cuts to their canvasser . I knew they intended this as we were ignored before the election. The canvasser assured me he wouldn’t work for Starmer if he were stopping pip as his mum’s disabled. It must be part of their script .1 -
I may do that thank you . Mines up next February though I haven’t received my review form yet . No idea what to expect as I’ve heard it’s a very long form now. Why they keep changing it I don’t know.
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Often Citizens Advice isn't the only choice, locally we have CAB, Disability Advice Bureau and Disability Advice Service.
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Well said. Under Starmer we have to worry about so many of the benefits that we are genuinely entitled to being taken from us and even his own MPs have to worry about their own career and incomes being taken off them too, because of what's happening to us. Everyone suffers under his style of so called leadership! Except him and his cronies of course. 😤
As you say the level of toxicity and bullying must be terrible behind the scenes. If we hadn't stood up for ourselves there would have been little to no realization from Labour MPs, of the threat they have hanging over them, from us.
Up to 200 of them have majorities that are less than the number of PIP claimants in each if their constituencies!! 😮 This is because Labour have more MPs in constituencies with high deprivation (therefore more PIP claimants) than any other political party.
This means that at the next Local Elections next year, which will cover more of the country, more of them will lose their seats, long before the General Election!
I think that a lot will change for the better with these evil proposals but we have to keep fighting them as the Labour leadership are not the type to back down completely. Not ever I'm afraid. Not until they are made to go. 😡
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After watching silver fox I can see how badly he treats Rayner , not that I’m a fan of hers after he switch to benefits cuts. But the disrespect shown to a deputy PM shows what starmers like .
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