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  • Martinp
    Martinp Community Member Posts: 248 Empowering
    edited May 2025

    if that’s the case and this is just a rough estimate in my head but if 100 abstain and 70 vote against then it will be very tight, could be around 240 for 250 against. That’s assuming every conservative vote against it.

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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    Thank you , I read it needs 83 . Plus Tory’s who I’ve read are voting against. Won’t it make a difference if 100 abstained ?

  • bton1968
    bton1968 Community Member Posts: 155 Empowering

    100 abstaining is a joke, i've more time for the tw@ts that vote in favour of the cuts rather than these cowards who think it's an easy way out ….

    We will remember them !

  • Danny123
    Danny123 Community Member Posts: 229 Empowering

    No way the Tories will vote against these cuts , 100 abstaining is criminal ! I've just seen on Gmb that they look like they are going to climb down on winter fuel cuts , why this is good news , I don't think it's particularly good news for the disability cuts we are facing .... This climb down of the winter fuel will tide alot of people over I think , and alot of anger towards the government over the issue will be toned down .... I even think of the government say they made a mistake it would do them no harm at all .... In turn I think the disability cuts would be lost in all this and get through .... I was a bit more confident a few days ago , today not so much 😩

  • Martinp
    Martinp Community Member Posts: 248 Empowering

    All we can do is keep up the pressure on the MPs and hope for the best but expect the worse.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    And talk of a climb down on the two child limit . So we get completely forgotten. I hope I’m wrong as it was daily mail

  • Danny123
    Danny123 Community Member Posts: 229 Empowering

    That's exactly what I think , I mean when you think about it it's a no brainer isn't it 🤷🤦..... Reverse winter fuel , child benefit cap .... And then all of a sudden the pressure is eased , public perception changes , all of a sudden the rehtoric changes to " well something needs to be done about the disability Bill " I've never been over confident that there would be a real challenge to these even with the MPs voting against it .... We will see but I think with these climb downs more MPs may compromise with that weasel of a man

  • Martinp
    Martinp Community Member Posts: 248 Empowering

    I’d be happy if they reversed the WFA and lifted the benefits cap on the amount of children. Poverty is wrong no matter who it effects.

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering

    I sent Stephen Timms a email this is reply I got but wasn't what I asked as I'm 57yrs old but thought I'd share

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  • Martinp
    Martinp Community Member Posts: 248 Empowering

    I totally agree and didn’t in any way wish to upset you, I just meant that I want everyone to be out of poverty including us of course.

  • bton1968
    bton1968 Community Member Posts: 155 Empowering

    i thought that's what you meant…. it must be the way i interpreted it …. no offence taken 😁

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I read yesterday on daily mail 100 abstaining and 70 voting against

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering

    I emailed my local mp David Taylor this morning already have a response

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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I’m ok Catherine thank you . Yes I want it to be over too . Starmer needs to go . What a despicable man . If Tory’s were doing this he’d be fighting against it.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I read 100 Labour abstaining but was daily mail so not sure . I read we only need 83 to vote against and win

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering

    I sent him a reply but so far not had a reply, my MP Edward Leigh has sent me a copy of a email he has sent to Liz Kendall but not holding out for anything as this woman is evil to the core in my eyes

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