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  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 2,136 Championing

    I want to post a comment but for some reason I cannot use abbreviations on this forum.

    Is anyone else having this problem?

    Sorry if this sounds irrelevant here but the comment I wish to make with abbreviations is relevant to this thread.

  • Maggie37
    Maggie37 Online Community Member Posts: 77 Empowering

    I’ve filled in my response to green paper.. but perturbed by recent communication from OFFICE OF NATIONAL STATISTICS! Basically telling me I must fill in questionnaire called’Shape Tomorrow’ by 23/5.. it actually reads and asks questions similar to UC forms or PIP/ ADP assessment.. very invasive. ‘Why don’t I work’ ‘Nature of disability ‘ etc….I went online to check validity and reviews said that staff from office harass and badger you if you don’t reply, even turning up at your house? ****!

    I have a 5 year award, enhanced categories, over four points etc. It was asking me… ‘where do I feel pain from my arthritis etc??’ Then ‘how happy I am on a daily basis’!?

    Please please .. can someone tell me whether I must answer this? Is it mandatory. Even if a moderator from Scope forum as it has really distressed me… I do have both physical and mental disability and this has laid me very low indeed? It was just addressed to ‘householder’ at my address but given the nature of the questions made me suspicious/ worried about complying?

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 2,455 Scope Online Community Coordinator
    edited May 18

    Hi @Maggie37 gosh, that does sound invasive! You don't have to complete this questionnaire, it's not mandatory. If you're worried about being contacted you could leave what you don't feel comfortable answering blank or maybe add a note to state your not comfortable sharing that information.

  • Martinp
    Martinp Online Community Member Posts: 193 Empowering

    why does a certain type of person always get to work in the DWP as government Ministers, do you think there has ever been a good one with a bit of empathy, I can’t think of any.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,217 Championing

    What the hell !!! This is like the gestapo gets worse

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,217 Championing

    It happen alot even in care profession people like to have control over the weak and vunerable I'd call them psychopaths kendells face twist and contortion into pure hate her words she's spitting hate she really thought the whole public would be on thier side let's give them 20 lashes but as they are not very intelligent wasn't just doing to us they doing it to everyone in the UK!!! Everyone in this country could live well I think people had enough and are really fighting back no more of this ......... No more how are you feeling are you ok

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,217 Championing
  • Martinp
    Martinp Online Community Member Posts: 193 Empowering

    I’m doing ok thank you Catherine, hope you are ok too

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 441 Trailblazing

    That's right, we've to tell our respective MPs what we want.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 441 Trailblazing

    As far as evil Liz Kendall is concerned, when she was appointed as the shadow secretary for the DWP, trust me, she said that she had always dreamed of holding this post one day, which hinted that she had been sharpening her knives for people on benefits for ages.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,217 Championing
  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 397 Pioneering

    I've just had a phone scam myself. It was a recorded message which is a sure sign. It only lasted a few seconds where a women said words something like "this is about the job you applied for."

    I have had my disabilities for the last 21 years and have not been able to apply for jobs, never mind work, in all that time. That also makes it a scam, if its about something you haven't done.

    Naturally the phone number was a mobile number, scam alert number three.

    I blocked them immediately.

    If you get anything like this I would say DON'T try to contact them. Whether it's phone, text or email. If you get a text or email DON'T click any links!!

    If you still feel worried I should contact @Holly_Scope as she has done with @Maggie37 above.

    Stay safe everyone!! 😊

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 397 Pioneering

    Mines a Tory MP but I worded it in a way I felt was appropriate to him.

    I told him about our concerns, especially emphasising the fact that we are going to lose all our disability and carers benefits due to the PIP 4 point rule.

    I have also asked why these proposals were not in the consultation and why the government can't wait for the OBRs impact assessment in October.

  • Maggie37
    Maggie37 Online Community Member Posts: 77 Empowering

    Thanks for that. I know it’s a legitimate questionnaire but simply not sure about the confidentiality aspect. The whole thing was geared to my health, when I last worked, my reasons for not working. I’ve worked the bulk of my life but simply can’t now. To have to give reasons over and over again is so stressful. Plus listing body areas where I feel most pain.. that surely can’t be acceptable… even as a statistic. So I’ll take your advice. Cheers.

  • Tumilty
    Tumilty Online Community Member Posts: 296 Empowering

    Mental health talked on TV by Prince William. He being a kind of new age royal should speak out about these cuts if he's out about him..

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,381 Championing

    Is there any update on the number of MPs voting against? I just read on The Daily Mail there are 100 abstaining and 70 voting against. If this is true how does it affect the vote ?

  • Martinp
    Martinp Online Community Member Posts: 193 Empowering
    edited May 18

    if that’s the case and this is just a rough estimate in my head but if 100 abstain and 70 vote against then it will be very tight, could be around 240 for 250 against. That’s assuming every conservative vote against it.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 441 Trailblazing

    My indicator is this:

    If the voting goes ahead as scheduled, it means Keir Starmer and his clowns are sure that their evil proposal will pass through. But if they know that it will be voted down, they'll delay or stop it from making its way to the parliamentary system to face a Commons vote, as a successful rebellion defeating its own government could potentially lead to a change in leadership, which would seal the fate of Keir Starmer.

    70 MPs voting against is not enough at all to vote it down.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,381 Championing

    Thank you , I read it needs 83 . Plus Tory’s who I’ve read are voting against. Won’t it make a difference if 100 abstained ?