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A massive achievement honestly 👍 don't be worrying about things that are out of your control with the closed account your are probably worrying over nothing

Hopefully they haven't got them 🤞

From Rightsnet site

Citizens Advice: Government’s health and disability benefit reforms mean that some of those affected will still be worse off even if working full time

New analysis from Citizens Advice of how the incomes of disabled people would change if cuts to PIP and universal credit were introduced today and those affected were able to move into full-time work:

In many cases, people would see only a small increase in income by working full-time, and in some situations, they could actually end up worse off.

This also relies on the very unrealistic assumption that people currently considered unable to work can suddenly take on a full-time job. For many, part-time work is a more realistic option than full-time employment. But moving into part-time work is more likely to result in a loss of income, and the financial impact is typically much greater.

For example:

a single claimant losing PIP daily living and universal credit health would be £114 per month worse off if they worked full-time, and £359 per month worse off if they worked part-time for 20 hours per week.

a couple claimant where one partner loses PIP daily living and universal credit health, while the other remains in full-time employment, would only gain £112 a month if the partner that lost their benefits worked full-time. And they would be £272 per month worse off if the partner worked part-time for 20 hours per week.

Citizens Advice adds that its findings undermine the government's argument that people will be able to compensate for lost benefits income by taking up paid employment.

More: Work won’t cut it: Income from employment and benefits for disabled people

https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/now/post/63143

I know but I remember her saying it’s sometime in the future. Seems strange to bring in changes all of the sudden. Something I think will change with the 4 point descriptors. Either made harder to get resulting in even less people being eligible or they could make them easier. If they made the 4 point easier they havent climbed down and it may ease the rebellion. If they plan on going ahead and making us all destitute I can’t see the WFA calming the situation down. MPs will still lose their votes from us .

So it doesn’t look like a complete climb down ? Only days ago reeves said definitely no change. I’m really hoping they suddenly do something positive regarding us next . 🤞🙏

Under these new plans will we still be able to go to a tribunal if needed

You can't help it if you create scenarios in your head - honestly, I know exactly what it's like and I've always done it!. My mum used to tell me off and say deal with it if and when it happens, but I see it as having a contingency plan. I'm too old to change now! and am already planning what will happen when/if I lose PIP (I don't have any 4s). I will remember your saying though as that's very true for me too. Big hugs :)