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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing
  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Community Member Posts: 394 Pioneering

    I'm afraid to say that it seems like they are backing down on the WFA and the child benefit cap to try and make a trade off with the Labour MPs who are against the cuts, hoping that they will accept having disabled people's people's lives ruined for the sake of looking after children and elderly people.

    ALL vulnerable people should be looked after, not just certain groups at the expense of others!! 😡 Plus there is the money to do so.

    This country is not as impoverished as the leadership try make out that it is. In fact it's exactly the opposite. They are just making a political choice to neglect us. 🤥 There are many other ways our support could be funded, that will not ruin our lives.

    The good news though from what I can see, is that Labour MPs who are on our side are unlikely to be taken in by all this skullduggery and seem really fed up by the leaderships hideous, morally bankrupt antics and being treated with such disrespect by them.

    They are the ones who could lose up to 200 seats at the next GE with quite a few going at the next Local Elections, which will cover a lot more of the country than the one just gone will.

    The leadership have a great deal more to fall back on so it won't bother them. I can imagine our parliamentary supporters feel pretty fed up about that too!! 😳 Their self interest is to our advantage, as are their worries about how badly the Labour Party is being seen for doing this too.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I hope you’re right . What starmers doing is absolutely disgusting especially when he wants to throw money around there’s no talk of how they can afford it . That’s only when it’s the disabled

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Community Member Posts: 394 Pioneering

    Thank you @charlie72 😊 for your excellent research for this post and a later one on the basis for legal challenges against these cuts.

    I feel more hopeful than I did because of it! 🤗 I hope that everyone reading that information will feel more optimistic about the situation.

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Community Member Posts: 304 Championing

    I wouldn't be surprised if Labour and Reform go into a coalition.

  • Martinp
    Martinp Community Member Posts: 248 Empowering

    can you imagine the way they must speak about us in private, I bet they are enjoying causing all this suffering the sickos

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing
  • bton1968
    bton1968 Community Member Posts: 156 Empowering

    not a chance ….

    Labour as a party are finished for the foreseeable future !

    Reform will have a majority come the next election = no need for a coalition .

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    Thankyou for your kind comments, I try my best not to beleive everything I read online(media) and mainstream news channels, who seem to revel in stirring things up to get clicks or viewing figures. I do my own proper research into anything this government is proposing to put forward, and usually find hardly any of it would be legal, or it would certainly discriminate against disabled or vulnerable groups.

    It upsets and angers me that the government and media can get away with putting out so called policies which they themselves know are contentious, cruel, discriminatory, and probably illegal. I know it's difficult for everyone on here to ignore the constant barrage of drivel about what Labour will do next, having to listen (and look at) their smug, contorted, nasty faces announcing with glee about more cuts to disability benefits, whilst they accept freebies and have posh dinners.

    If my posts help to put some folks minds at ease I'm very happy to continue researching these 'reforms' , and show them for the utter sham they are, and will be shown to be vey soon.

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Community Member Posts: 304 Championing

    What is this all about?

    Can someone tell me, looking after granny and children is cute for the public but looking after the brain damaged person, handicapped in a wheelchair isn't so cute is it?

    There’s also a hierarchy of sympathy in how people perceive vulnerability:

    Children and elderly people are often seen as more "deserving" or "innocent."

    Disabled people, particularly working-age adults, are too often unfairly framed as burdens or benefit scroungers — a narrative that gained traction in Britain during the austerity years.

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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    It’s hard to know what to believe. One minute it looks bad then I read they’re turning against him

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering

    Tried not to give up hope but isn't looking good for sick and disabled.

    Guessing the disability Act 2010 is not there to protect after all.

    The Equality Act 2010 ensures equal rights for disabled people by prohibiting discrimination, including direct and indirect discrimination, harassment, and victimisation.

    We are totally being discriminated against and harassment, this government is causing pain and suffering I can't get my head around how they can just do it mind boggling really is 😡

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I read in the daily express that it’s been put forward ( Gordon brown I think ) that they can pay for the scrapping of the two child limit but taxing gambling sites . If this is the case maybe another u turn could come for us especially as MPs are apparently still putting pressure on starmer . The fact he’s going against reeves shows he’s u turning.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I think Sunak would of unturned long before this had he stayed

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering

    Disgusting that they think this is okay

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I could be wrong but it may be that right now nothing has changed in parliament but if if does we may have rights to block certain parts of any new legislation. Right now Starmer and reeves said no WFA u turn , days later a u U-turn . They said they can’t afford to scrap the two child limit but now talk of a u turn. Fingers crossed he u turns again for us 🤞🙏

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Community Member Posts: 304 Championing
    edited May 2025

    I believe that this will pass but some aspects will get watered down, that's my hypothesis.

    Don't give up hope, I'm really tired, my neck issues are getting worse, I'm miserable but I'm not letting these narcissistic abusers to grind me down to the dust.

    Our lives were never meant to be easy, it's a fight every day and that we can overcome our obstacles we face, we can overcome these nasty pieces of work.

    I'll take a break until sometime next week to stop myself spamming, take care and look after yourselves.

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering
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