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  • charlie72
    charlie72 Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    Okay thanks, Iv'e misread what it meant, so they'll expect us to sign new U.C commitments after losing PIP & LCWRA , look for imaginary non existant jobs, make us believe we're no longer ill and disabled overnight so the government and DWP can say, told you they were all putting it on they're looking for work? I for one won't be signing any new commitments and i'll be telling them to say I'm fit for work would be a lie, dangerous to myself, and aslo discriminatory for failing to recognise my illness.

    Good luck to them…….they'll really need it!!

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Community Member Posts: 394 Pioneering

    Hi Squirrel 🐿️

    I thought you meant the SEND children.

    Some of the disabled children will benefit from the scrapping of the two child benefit cap, that's when they bring it about as all they have done is talk about it and postpone what they want to do with it until October. πŸ™„

    As its been pointed out about a 100 babies are born everyday to whom that cap will apply to, so many thousands more will be added to those already impoverished by it, by October. πŸ˜” Isn't it evil.

    Talking about being evil Starmer and Co are not letting the disabled children have a decent start in life. They want to withdraw the support for everyone who is disabled, whatever age they are.

    Fancy spoiling the life chances of a child by taking away their educational support and putting them in a mainstream school, which is just not suitable. It's along the same lines as withdrawing our support and making us go to the jobcentre as they are doing with us.

    They are much more likely to be bullied by other children and be picked out and upset by unsympathetic teachers who can't (or won't) understand the challenges these children have got. 😞

    I can just see it, the disabled child grows up to be unable to work, they are summoned to the jobcentre and ends up being sanctioned by a playground bully whose by then is the work coach!

    There really is no way to describe how this country is going. We have got to keep fighting to make things better than this to make government realise that we are a force to be reckoned with, that we will keep making their lives more difficult if they persist in keep attacking us. ✊

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    Yes I agree, they will all get their comeuppence eventually and be shown for the liars that they are, get the party poppers ready!!πŸ˜‚

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I never felt this bad under Tory’s and had they even suggested such a thing labour would have voted it down . It’s unbelievable that Labour are this evil. Their only chance is to clear out the front bench and start afresh . Get rid of starmer reeves Kendall at the very leadt

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering

    Looks like I've missed alot today can't follow what's happening to many threads for me to understand ☹️

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    That’s what I read on here , a post from The Times I think . It said they’ll give more time for people losing pip to claim other benefits or make other arrangements. Well I can’t think of any other benefits apart from uc basic . I will also say to them will I be committing an offence if sign as fit for work when I will be unable to engage

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Community Member Posts: 394 Pioneering

    That's great to hear Catherine. I hope that you will soon start feel a bit better. xx 😊 It's so hard isn't it but all we can do is keep going with our resistance.

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Community Member Posts: 394 Pioneering

    Love it! πŸ˜† It suits Loathsome Liz 🀒 down to the ground. I've saved it to put it on a post for X.

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Community Member Posts: 394 Pioneering

    It will take time and a lot of determination from us but I'm sure that things will get quite a bit better.

    I'll be ready with those party poppers with you, don't you worry!! πŸŽ‰πŸŽŠ And possibly a celebratory beverage or two! 🍻πŸ₯‚ (medication allowing).

    Thanks for cheering me up. πŸ‘ŒπŸ˜Š

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    Yes, I too will post it on X , I'd post it on FB too but I'm no longer on it, hopefully it might even get back to her to show how much we love her (not).🀣

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    They really are a bunch of morons, it's like we're being governed by reincarnations of Hitler, Starlin, & Mussolini, this government even makes them look like compassionate leaders, and that;s saying something (only speaking hypothetically of course, I don't condone any of their actions)!!

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing
  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Community Member Posts: 394 Pioneering

    You're right that under the Tories, it was never as bad as this. They didn't try to cut support from us at this scale though.

    Labour would have objected to these cuts as well, as you've said. What wolves in sheep's clothing they ended up being! πŸΊπŸ‘

    I couldn't imagine any party being this evil, including Labour. It's the sort of thing you used to see happening in poor, third world countries with a totalitarian regime not rich, first world countries like ours and a democracy.

    It's been so hard to take in the fact that they are doing all this to us but I think now we have accepted the totally unacceptable really well and have channeled all the fear, anger and frustration into a powerful fighting force. ✊

    It would really help if Starmer and Co could go as soon as possible but realistically, our allies and ourselves are going to have to fight on a lot longer for that to happen.

    Even with them still there, the proposals can be postponed until we get a proper say and we have the OBR impact assessment considered before any decision is taken.

    If the vote is for the cuts, there will be legal challenges that can be made, as they have ignored so many equality and human rights laws, we will have a really good case. πŸ’ͺ

    When they do go, I would suggest that they take Morgan McSweeny with them and to ensure that nobody is ever allowed to listen to Tony Blair again in the future!! 😁

  • jasminehoop
    jasminehoop Community Member Posts: 51 Contributor

    You're not on, having a pop at teachers. Do you have any idea how complex a classroom becomes when children with SEN aren't properly placed by local authorities and end up in mainstream settings with cuts to teaching assistant numbers? The vast majority of teachers aren't "unsympathetic" they're massively overloaded trying to teach up to 30 kids with hugely differing abilities and difficulties all in one room. You cannot imagine it unless you see what it's like in hundreds of schools up and down the country these days and making generalisations about thousands of otherwise capable teachers is disgusting. They are set up to feel and it's successive governments and their austerity measures that have caused it. That's right, the very same governments that are threatening to slash your benefits. Think about that.

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Community Member Posts: 394 Pioneering

    Nice one, putting it on X too. I've taken a screenshot of my post, below.

    I've put the tag leicesterliz on too with the hope that she might see it. Well you can only try! 😁

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  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Community Member Posts: 304 Championing
    edited May 2025

    Bare in mind LCW which is the basic rate of Universal Credit, they know full damn well that disabled people who can't work won't work so they'll push them onto LCW and bother them like once a month with this "duty to engage".

    IF YOU CAN'T WORK, YOU CAN'T WORK. How many times do we have to say this?

    All of this confusion, all the muddying the waters doesn't stop the fact that Labour intend to cut benefits and that Disabled people are treated like garbage in this country.

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    That's great, thanks!! πŸ˜‚ She'll probably just scowl at it then think up more evil plans for us, vindictive old boiler that she is.

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  • charlie72
    charlie72 Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    I know, non of it makes sense, it's just Liz's way of looking strong and powerful, when in fact she's weak and powerless and will be looking for a job soon. Iv'e heard she will soon be available for halloween parties (no witches costume needed), and stand in folks gardens scaring kids off, especially the sick & disabled ones apparently.

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Community Member Posts: 394 Pioneering

    Sadly, fighting is soul destroying. It comes with the package unfortunately. πŸ“¦πŸ€¦However this is so well worth fighting for and who can say what can be achieved. We can't know what that is unless we fight to make the opportunity for it to happen though! 😊

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