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I think the hit to the economy alone will be catastrophic. Local shops etc . The cost of training and employing extra tribunal staff . The system was broken after pip but it will be nothing compared to this . Even MR will bring the dwp to a halt as they can’t cope now . Plus what happens legally when people like myself physically can’t work. I’ll be sanctioned constantly yet by law we are entitled to food and shelter
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Yes, you are right, we have a right to food/shelter, especially if your disabled.
Legal Protections for Disabled People
- The Equality Act 2010 protects you from discrimination based on disability. Public bodies (like councils and the DWP) have a legal duty to make reasonable adjustments for disabled people.
- If you're sanctioned or benefits are cut in a way that puts your health or safety at risk, this could potentially be a breach of your human rights, and you may be able to challenge it legally (e.g., under Article 3 of the European Convention on Human Rights – protection from inhuman or degrading treatment).
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And guess who used that right to beat blairs government in court over benefits for asylum seekers? He won on the fact everyone has the right to food and shelter . Yet suddenly he doesn’t believe in benefits. One day maybe he’ll write his memoirs and tell us his real views.
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Thank you so much for your kind, supportive words Squirrel. 😊 You've made me feel much better.
I'm sorry to hear that your child was treated like that.😔
It's true that a minority of controlling, manipulative people get into the caring or teaching professions because it gives them access to vulnerable people and children and then they find a way to covertly abuse them.
I didn't know that my subconscious was working on me in the original post but the member who accused me of a disgusting attitude towards teachers didn't need to be that harsh.
I keep feeling that my post was my fault though and I should have realised what I was doing. Honestly, I had no idea at all and I certainly didn't mean to sound so judgemental.
Anyway, I'll have a night's sleep and I will probably feel better about this in the morning.
Jul xx
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There are unsympathetic people in all jobs jul we just don’t expect it in the caring professions . Look at the pip assessors , some are truly awful yet are nurses etc . Your post was in no way offensive so don’t blame yourself, you feelings are valid . Try and have a lovely sleep x
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I'm sorry I haven't replied before now, I've got some sort of virus and feeling really grotty.
I read your reply and I don't just feel compassion for you and what you went through, I can also really identify. I was bullied by other children. Not only that but I was brutalised by certain teachers and it ruined my life chances, so I certainly understand something of your experiences and I'm sorry you suffered throughout your school years.
On the other hand, as an adult I've worked in education/schools, and my best friend is a time-served primary school teacher. I've met many in the profession who set themselves far higher standards than many of the so-called teachers of my childhood days, and yet their efforts are so often derailed by the politics and economics that blight the profession. And don't get me started on how that impacts on so many of the children!
I'm afraid seeing sweeping criticisms of the teaching profession sets me off, and that's how your comment came across to me. Now I realise where you were coming from and I hope you won't feel upset about our clash today! We're so up against it at the moment, and we're better together ✌️ I enjoy many of your posts, but I saw red earlier and as you had posted your view I could only conclude that you meant it. If I'm honest though, I sometimes say things I regret on forums and I know context means a lot. Thanks for explaining your position.
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As part of the Children's Wellbeing Bill, they want to stop parents from being able to remove their children from school if they have any SEN. So if a child is not coping, has MH issues caused by school or anything else, they will be forced to go to school everyday.
The introduction of VAT on Private schools has already meant many parents who sent their children with SEN to those schools can no longer afford it and have had to put their children in mainstream.
But most people are backing this bill with no idea what they are saying yes to. There are many people trying to fight this bill too.1 -
Everything they do seems cruel . They really have no idea and are just ruining everything they touch
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enlighten me ?
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imo I don’t think Nigel will help, Nigel is talking about the working people setting their alarm to go off to work while their neighbour stays at home and has more money, and saying hence amount of unemployed
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I already emailed him , haven’t heard back but they’ll still be aware of my email
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That's OK, I understand that. I hope that you will feel better soon. 😊
I am really pleased to see that you understood where I was coming from and I am sorry to hear that you have had to endure abuse by some teachers, when you were a child and you were bullied by other children yourself.
Its so sad that you understand my situation so well because of the terrible situations you found yourself in. 😞
I really can't blame you for seeing my post from the viewpoint you did. I know that I was **** consciously revisiting my own abuse and bullying and that it's not my fault but I still feel pretty rotten about writing it.
I fully intend to be much more aware of what I'm writing in the future.
Although it took a lot to do it, and I wondered whether I should have written about such private and painful events from my past I still felt that I needed to explain myself because of the unwanted influence of those experiences.
I'm glad that I did now as you have given me such a understanding reply. I've also received some great support from another member I regularly chat with too.
I was worried about coming over badly to others too by what I'd written but I feel much more reassured now.
You're right that the teaching standards are so much better than they used to be in our day and there is much more accountability for abuse and bullying, whoever it comes from.
The problem though, in recent times is, I believe, as ever is from government interference and penny pinching, as you have pointed out, making life so difficult for both teachers and teaching staff like your best friend and yourself. That and especially difficult for children as they are having their life chances spoilt. 😞
I believe that this government and successive ones, particularly since 2010 have set themselves up as the greatest enemy of all of us, being much worse than any bully that we might personally know, or have known in the past, in wherever situation.
It is easy in a post to react to a particular opinion, I've done it myself but found that it's better to ask that person to put their issues into context. This is a friendly community and you are likely to get a worthwhile reply that will put your mind at rest.
However, I must be very careful myself of not appearing to condemn a group of people, outright, which normally I make every effort to be as diplomatic as possible, so it surprised me.
It just shows how deeply that traumatic past events can affect you, however long ago they are.
I agree throughly that we should do our best to sort out our differences but particularly as we face such a vicious, powerful common enemy.
Because of their great influence we have to fight them in large numbers and stand together. ✊ If we are divided, the (so called) government leadership will have more chance to get their own way.
They don't help us at all with our emotions running so high because of the appalling things they are trying so hard to do to us. I believe that one of the reasons they want to upset us as much as they are doing is definitely to try to have us fall out with each other.
I am glad that we can both resolve this issue in a cooperative and friendly way (I'm glad you like reading my other posts too!) and we can get back to fighting the real enemy. None of us should allow them divide and rule!! ✊
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Your words about systematic school bullying made me remember something. In Russia's domestic propaganda, it is Great Britain, since the times of the Russian Empire to this day (except 1914-1917, 1941-1945), that is presented as a state that constantly commits meanness. Neither Germany, nor France, nor the USA … - no one else has been awarded such "honors" over the centuries.
School education is part of state policy. I won't be mistaken if the bullying of schoolchildren by teachers is not accidental, but is an element of "education". Although officially this will of course always be denied.
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Of these three, only Hitler pursued a targeted policy against the incurable disabled. Stalin and Mussolini, on the contrary, tried in every way to improve the lives of the disabled.
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She must have cried when she wrote this.
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Sir, baronnes... it's time to get rid of these medieval prefixes.
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Previously, only authorities and deputies had such privileges)
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Hi Squirrel 🐿️
Thank you so much for your very reassuring words. 🙏That's made me feel better still! 🤗
I did sleep well and came on here earlier to find a welcome surprise! 👌
The member who had sent that post to me had written to thank me for explaining why I said what I did and completely understands as she has been through the same experiences herself.
She said that it's better that we come to an understanding too as we have a much greater common enemy to fight. I couldn't agree more!!
What a relief. 😌 I'm glad that this has all been resolved in such a satisfactory manner.👏
You're right, there are the rotten ones in every profession. 😒 It's really galling to have them in the caring professions as they are attracted to them by being able to abuse vulnerable people.
Unfortunately it's just part of life, especially these days. 😔
I can remember having a really hatchet faced young women who was supposed to be a nurse do my first PIP assessment, which was a home visit.
I remember feeling relieved that I had a really helpful representive from my housing association, who was qualified to help with benefits, there with me. They knew each other, so he told me from doing assessments together on many occasions.
Especially as I had to lie on the settee as I was so ill and I could see from his manner that he was concerned that I was just not well enough to cope with the assessment really and was quietly trying to help me.
The erm.... nurse was so ill mannered. As bad as I was feeling I can remember she barked questions at me as if I'd crawled out from under a stone. 😡
I was fully expecting to be failed but I not only got PIP but ended up getting more money than on DLA! 🤗
However, I wonder what the situation would have been if my representative had not been there? 😳
Luckily for the next PIP assessment I got a very understanding assessor on the phone 😌 as it while we were locked down with Covid. I had panic attacks but coped a lot better. It's also the luck of the draw as to who you get too, as you will certainly know yourself.
That's when the PIP was put up again to both enhanced and with my most recent assessment, it was was paper based and I got the same again with a light touch reassessment, in 10 years, early last year.
I didn't celebrate too much as the Tories were saber rattling again but I didn't know that Labour would pull something like this on us!! 😱 None of us could have even imagined this.
Even with two 4 pointers on my daily living, all the DWP need to do is simply not to give me 4 points again. I would definitely take it to tribunal, I've been there and won long ago on DLA. ✊Plus it's what I'd do anyway. They have no right to rob anybody of what they are entitled to.
My next assessment is two years after state pension age but being that age isn't going to save me, or my partner who is 71 and has standard daily living with two points in each question and he will be reassessed in 2028. Of course the DWP can force you to have a full assessment if you have a light touch assessment (which my partner has too) despite the misleading words of Traitorous Timms.
I'm sorry about the long rant, I hope that you don't mind me blowing off some steam 😤 but it doesn't matter what our circumstances are, none of us are safe.
Especially from ignorant, hatchet faced nurses. lol. Honestly, she could have been a relative of Loathsome Liz! 🤢😆
I hope you saw Charlie72's cartoon that he put on yesterday. If not...
I think he must have been inspired for the title from me calling her Loathsome Liz from her hashtag on X, leicesterliz. 😁 As soon as I saw it, I thought, shouldn't that be Loathsome Liz? 🤔
What a great cartoon though, @charlie72 is very talented!
Really, if you don't laugh 😂 about this you'd cry. 😭 It all helps us to cope with what's happening to us.
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Thankyou, although I'm a bit gutted I spelt the authors name wrong, I only noticed it just now, it should say Roger Hargreaves, oh well, sure Liz won't mind, can you imagine if rest of cabinet sawe it and didn't tell her, all looking at their phones smirking at her? Give her a taste of her own medicine, hopefully make her paranoid that nobody loves her (true though)🤣
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