Green Paper Related Discussions

They have lost my vote regardless and I hope a lot of other people as well.

Im thinking maybe lowering the 4 point rule for existing pip claimants and also existing lcwra claimants , maybe some sort of transitional protection , I'm not sure , I'm so confident there will have to be tweaks and amendments to these reforms , there just not logically possible , I think most people seem that .... It beggars belief to me that labour would steal Tory ideas in the first place , but what's even more unbelievable is that they were Tory ideas that were in there very essence, half baked ideas that were designed to be election red meat , absolutely blurted out by the Tories with no real thought of how to implement them or what damage they would do to people would do to people , AND LABOUR BEING ABSOLUTELY USELESS HAVE ADOPTED THEM!! ..... without any risk assessment whatsoever ! It's so dangerous .....

That is why I'm all but sure they don't go through as they are .... I do worry that people in our position are getting hung out to dry in the fact that we are on lcwra / ESA ....

And all the attention seems to be on pip .... But when you think about those are the first big changes

The freeze for existing claimants recieving lcwra .... Or in my case ESA / lcwra , happening April 2026

The cut and freeze for New claimants also april 2026

Then the new pip criteria takes over for new and existing claimants of pip after November 2026

I suppose they will get that out of the way first and as it gets closer to 2028 we will know alot more about the scrapping of the WCA and what there plans are for it .... But that will be a big problem for them as well , just as much as the pip , so they will have to come up with something for that as well

Couldn't agree more @Passerby - nothing is certain, & Labour seem to be trying to dilute things & reassure other Labour MPs that look, we're going to give more (but not all) pensioners their Winter Fuel Allowance back, but we haven't decided how we're going to address this yet, it should be in Autumn (which may however be too late to help pensioners next winter), & we're going to give more children free school meals (yet little mention of the 2 child benefit cap).

It all seems to be trying to curry favour with many rebellious MPs who are against the benefit changes, meanwhile not a word is mentioned about these proposed changes to PIP & the abolishment of the WCA.

The current Green Paper also says, they are 'going to launch a process to review the PIP assessment.' This they say they will do with 'a range of experts, stakeholders and people with lived experience.' If they do this in the way we've been consulted so far……

It shows their hatred of us . Any savings they claim are needed to bring the benefits bill down will go towards the two child limit so no savings at all . It will cost them no extra to leave disability alone .

I believe the same Catherine . I can’t see how anyone can be this incompetent.

Absolutely and all the back benchers will be left behind jobless