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  • Dav1D
    Dav1D Online Community Member Posts: 75 Empowering

    DWP cuts are being driven by Starmer adviser Morgan McSweeney

    The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has been at the centre of a storm in recent days; more so than usual. It’s over the Labour Party government’s plans to cut £6bn from chronically ill and disabled people’s benefits.

    Aside from the fact that disabled people feel scared and betrayed, many non-disabled people are pointing out that this plan from Labour is something the Tories would have enacted. In fact, the Tories weren’t even planning on cutting as much as Labour now are.

    However, a group of Labour MPs who have been openly supporting their party’s attempts to cull disabled people points to where this drive for further decimation of the welfare state is coming from. And it’s right at the top of Downing Street – namely, Keir Starmer’s chief of staff Morgan McSweeney and his Labour Together think tank; the same people who destroyed Jeremy Corbyn and pushed Starmer into power in the first place.

    People have been widely sharing a letter from a new group of MPs in the Labour Party. It’s called ‘Get Britain Working’ and is headed up by David Pinto-Duschinsky. He also sits on parliament’s Work and Pensions Select Committee:

    The letter, signed by 36 Labour MPs, is basically issuing a public statement of support for Rachel Reeves and Liz Kendall’s plans to cut chronically ill and disabled people’s benefits. Pinto-Duschinsky even penned a column in City A.M. about the group. It was more-of-the-same nonsense: work is good for disabled people; we’ve got a worklessness crisis; people are left to rot on benefits, but the main problem is it’s costing us too much.

    Now, you’d be forgiven for thinking that these 36 MPs just appeared out of thin air to create the Get Britain Working Group. Of course they didn’t.

    Labour Together (again)

    My colleague Hannah Sharland has done some extensive digging into these miscreants. And she found that almost every single one of them (29 in total) had either been funded by a) McSweeney’s Labour Together think tank directly (17) or b) by someone who had also donated to Labour Together (20), or both (8). You can browse her research here. Someone who funded six of these MPs was Trevor Chinn, one of the co-founders of Labour Together.

    Of course, this is the same Labour Together that:

    • Plotted to destroy Corbyn’s leadership of the Labour Party.
    • Fomented the exaggerated antisemitism crisis.
    • Went after grassroots Labour supporters and smeared them as antisemites.
    • Created Stop Funding Fake News to try and destroy the CanarySKWAWKBOX, and other independent media outlets.

    Labour Together was the brainchild of McSweeney and Chinn – and the former is now Starmer’s chief of staff. However, the point with the fact it is Labour Together MPs openly supporting the DWP’s drive to cut disabled people’s benefits should not be a surprise either.

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 4,122 Championing

    Tbh, the same fingers on a keyboard which are the same fingers on the trigger of a shotgun I find abhorrent. No interest, whatsoever, in engaging and no need to defend my position. Probably US based but hey, they're all over the place. Likely climate change conspiracy theorists.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing
  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing

    Yh I agree who cares the more who resign the best for us

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing

    When this all came out about 4 point rules I really thought MS would be protected and saying people with cancer gets less than 4 learning disabilities basically 18 disabilities illnesses was named that get under 4 and they was all life altering I don't know keep emailing And breathe there will be an end to this and I believe and manifest things will no way be as bad as these psycho paths want and desire one last push keep pressure up if we let in linger give mps breathing space we will suffer pressure pressure this is a cat and mouse game to them !! And I ain't no mouse push forward I'm gonna email echr going to complain about thier lack of input

  • Dav1D
    Dav1D Online Community Member Posts: 75 Empowering

    This the is the group inside the Labour party who are behind the cuts:


    https://www.labourtogether.uk/
    https://www.labourtogether.uk/contact-us

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing

    Can't read it all but look at the part if refused pip will get three months to find alternative benefits are they taking MR and Tribunals away as we know when refused pip do MR still get money no matter how many months it takes

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing
  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing

    That hits hard its sickening absolutely sickening i hope they read all this minosters womt hope mps Do !!!

  • jasminehoop
    jasminehoop Online Community Member Posts: 51 Contributor

    I'm the same. And as long as the criteria remains roughly similar to what it is now I will fight for my 4 points rights when it comes to it! 💪

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Online Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering

    So far the government's 'olive branch' to Labour MPs planning to rebel isn't going down v well.

    "I can't believe that's it," one MP says.

    “Small tweaks here and there won’t be enough. As long as the welfare reforms punish the most vulnerable, they’ll face opposition,” another tells me.

    Labour MP Rachel Maskell told @politico : “I'll have to vote against something which will cause such harm to my constituents - too many lives will be put at risk if they press ahead.”

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Me too but what worries me is talk of looking at the assessments . I hope they aren’t planning on making the 4 point question closer to the 8 point questions.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I couldn’t even see any tweaks apart from TP of 13 weeks . If anything they’re changing less than originally expected ie enhanced no need for 4 points.

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Online Community Member Posts: 313 Championing

    Sorry to be like Columbo but I can't get my head around this pip olive branch nonsense.

    Labour are trying to scrap the work capability assessment meaning no more Universal Credit health elements so unless there's an intermediate benefit those who will lose pip will have to look for work or face sanctions.

    This is disastrous and unworkable.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    It’s the worse part to me . Surely to claim uc basic you have to declare yourself as fit and looking for work . What’s happens when we say we can’t work?

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    It makes you feel sick and VERY angry, although I'm not one bit surprised by the low depths of depravity big business and government get up to. In a few years time, just like the post office scandal, and deaths that were related to it will come out as well about benefit related deaths that are still being kept quiet. There should be public outrage and court cases brought against all those in past and present governments who were responsible for wefare 'reforms' that caused deaths due to poverty or suicides. Reading this makes me all the more determined to fight this evil clan of no-hopers, I'll fight them to the bitter end, even if these changes do come in (likely) I'm never giving up what I'm legally entitled to, I'll fight it right up until tribunal stage to keep my PIP and LCWRA or health element as it will be renamed.

    Even though my pip is not up for reassessment until 2029 I'm already preparing for worse case scenario of not getting 4 points and have printed out a revised version from my last review for daily living components to get 4 points or above. In 2 of my last descriptors I should have gotten at least 4 points but they gave me 2, but like many people because I got standard rate like before didn't challenge it incase I lost eveything. I WON'T MAKE THIS MISTAKE AGAIN!! I would advise others to do the same, have a look at your last assessment record which they send you and see how many points you got for each element, and if you beleive it should be 4 or more points, appeal it next time, and don't give in!!

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing

    Devils I've been emailing Christians in parliament asking if there was a God why this happening it's gluttony

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing
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