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  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,469 Championing

    Good morning what does it all mean

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 2,235 Championing

    Yeah I agree.

    I going to try and forget about it today.

    I have been home all week feeling unwell but I feel better today so I am going out to enjoy the sunshine and look out to the sea here in Cornwall.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 2,129 Trailblazing

    There is a section in the Green Paper that gave the impression that this "reform" was for "new claims":

    53. Unemployment insurance would be a new non-means tested entitlement for people who have contributed into the system. It would be created by replacing contribution-based Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA) and Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) with a new single entitlement, paid at the current ESA rate (currently £138pw) and will be time-limited. This would provide stronger income protection during periods of unemployment for those with a recent work record, while revitalising the ‘something-for-something’ contributory principle in the working-age system. People claiming this would be expected to actively seek work, with easements for those with work-limiting health conditions.

    54. Alongside levelling up the rate, this change would end the indefinite entitlement to contributory ESA for those assessed as having limited capability for work-related activity (for new people claiming). Those unemployed after the time-limited period would be able to claim UC, depending on their personal circumstances. We believe this reform would align with the removal of the WCA, by offering a route to financial support for those with temporary and short-term health conditions, including for those who may not be entitled to PIP and therefore not entitled to the health element of UC.

    Has anybody heard more about this forgotten "reform"?

  • mandymoo3469
    mandymoo3469 Online Community Member Posts: 5 Connected

    I read this online yesterday, I can't remember who wrote the articles but if you search it you will probably find it,I haven't said anything I don't believe to be true,the article stated it had approached all the insurance companies for comment but all had declined.it certainly explains a lot and it wouldn't surprise me if some mps had financial ties to those companies ,it happens all the time.

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Online Community Member Posts: 134 Empowering
  • mandymoo3469
    mandymoo3469 Online Community Member Posts: 5 Connected

    Oh I found it "disability news service "put out the article ,you can easily find it if you type " insurance companies behind the benefit cuts" in Google search

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,469 Championing

    I've emailed baroness casey saying about cuts and that she will be doing another investigation in 5 years time about the thousand upon thousands of people unaliving themselves wrote lot more can only try

  • mandymoo3469
    mandymoo3469 Online Community Member Posts: 5 Connected

    Sorry I can't provide a link it doesn't work, I've just noticed that others have found it and also commented, I don't think disability news service would give out incorrect Information and the response they received from the insurance companies is what you would expect to see, in effect a "no comment "comment.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 2,129 Trailblazing

    I don’t think the damage this is doing and will do in the future will ever be measured accurately. I know my MH is worse than it was a year ago yet I have to plow on, dealing with major physical disability without family and friends.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,550 Championing
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,550 Championing

    Starmer doesn’t care about a second term anyway so by the time anything comes out he’ll be in a cushy EU job and all the back benchers that support the cuts will be jobless

  • Martinp
    Martinp Online Community Member Posts: 210 Empowering
    edited June 15

    Got up this morning determined to have a good day, turned tv on and there is Reeves gurning her face and speaking with that dreadful voice of hers, I’m not having a good day. Just can’t stop thinking about things.

    These last few weeks I have never felt so distanced from society, feel like a second class citizen and I think that’s how others see me too.

  • Martinp
    Martinp Online Community Member Posts: 210 Empowering
  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 245 Empowering

    Catherine if I get word from DPAC with a reply to the letter I will post.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,550 Championing

    I feel exactly the same Martin but we must remember we are not second class citizens. And we all have value , especially on this forum we value you

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,469 Championing

    God when you think they can't get any lower I'm going to email mps this as well poor young girl must be terrified

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  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,469 Championing

    It's awful what they are doing and they know the effect it's happening I think we all thought they would care its the shock of dealing with everything been thrown over the last year I have a daughter but I Try to hide it I've had to say I'm not feeling to well as lack of communication because I don't want to worry her what thier doing is doubly impacting all we can do is keep emailing and manifest things will be watered down because everyday something more comes out I'm sorry your on your own you always have us bit I understand it is really hard

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,469 Championing

    Yes as you said be intreasting to see if he responds!!! Keep us updated x

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,469 Championing

    Well your not a second class citizen we are not thier victims they can do one remember all the amazing support letters charities people fighting theu won't show it but I bet they never guessed so much fight back and we still are hold in there I get great feelings of being overwhelmed doing some painting I'm really anxious about uc but I think millions have done it and are doing it certainly is a rollercoaster but no way are we second citizens their the parasites

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 2,129 Trailblazing
    edited June 15

    I feel the same, @Martinp I find interaction with other people harder because I don't feel equal. I never did, really, but now I feel less than human.