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  • Danny123
    Danny123 Online Community Member Posts: 223 Empowering

    I'm glad Kendall is so passionate about getting people back to work

    ..... She can be they're first customer !

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Online Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering

    Lol she needs to take reeves with her maybe go back to accounts learn how to budget and not put the country in massive debts they definitely need sacking

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    A large group of MPs, including many from Labour and several committee chairs, have signed and are backing a โ€œreasoned amendmentโ€. If this amendment is selected and then passed during the debate on 1 July, it would block the welfare reform bill from progressing further.

    However, this amendment has not been voted on yet. The formal debate and vote, where MPs can actually decide whether to accept or reject the bill, will happen at the second reading in Parliament next week. Until then, the bill is still under consideration and has not been officially accepted or rejected.

  • Martinp
    Martinp Online Community Member Posts: 249 Empowering

    been reading on bbc that conservatives meeting in the morning to decide what they are going to do.

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Online Community Member Posts: 890 Championing
    edited June 2025

    She's probably saying something like 'This is outrageous!' in a high pitched cackily voice.

  • AppleJacks
    AppleJacks Posts: 89 Empowering

    They gaffed with the WFA. After saying you must have pension credit to claim it, they realised it was costing them more in pension credit with the extras you get, that they knew it was costing them more than just to give it out again..Not really a Uturn for me, they're running scared to be honest.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Whatever they decide I hope itโ€™s good for us and bad for Starmer reeves Kendall Timms .

  • Amaya_Ringo
    Amaya_Ringo Online Community Member Posts: 417 Championing

    It will be the same for the disability cuts, just shift the expense to social care, NHS, mental health services and the like. Which is already creaking.

    It's so interesting how they've misread their MPs, that the paltry 'concession' of 13 weeks TP actually made people angrier, and the WFA about turn made them more determined. It is a massive risk to remove the whip from so many people if they vote against it - they'd be taking a chunk out of their majority, who would still be in parliament and able to vote against them in bills because they were legitimately elected. Removing the whip on one or two MPs is not a big deal. Removing it from a large number is a far bigger issue.

    Tories will also be interesting - they could absolutely get away with voting against it and keeping their hard line by claiming it doesn't do enough and should go furtherโ€ฆbut some of the main offenders in that party, Stride etc, have softened their stance against disabled people lately, so it's just as possible they might decide to oppose it just to make the government more miserable.

    Side note in all this positivity, something also has to be done about the anti-disability misinformation going on online. I literally saw someone tonight saying that the government were trying to help disabled people get into work 'at their level' so they could support the economy. Nothing says entitled like deciding an entire demographic are 'beneath you' because of their protected characteristic.



  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Online Community Member Posts: 17,439 Championing

    The OBR have also given a revised statement: https://obr.uk/docs/dlm_uploads/Welfare-spending-supp-release-June-2025.pdf

    The United Nations isn't too impressed with this Govt as far as disabled people go either: https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/pdfs/concluding-observations-on-the-seventh-periodic-report-of-the-united-kingdom-of-great-britain-and-northern-ireland.pdf

    (scroll down to p9) where they say:

    41. The Committee urges the State Party, along with the devolved governments of
    Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales:
    (a) To assess the impact of the welfare reforms introduced since 2010 on the most disadvantaged groups and to take corrective measures, including reversing such policies as the two-child limit, the benefit cap and the five-week delay for the first Universal Credit payment;
    (b) To increase its budget allocation for social security and ensure that social benefits, including unemployment benefits and the daily allowance for asylum-seekers,
    are regularly indexed to the cost of living through an independent and transparent mechanism to provide recipients with an adequate standard of living;
    (c) To conduct an independent review of the eligibility criteria for social security, including the temporary reduction and suspension of benefits, and the reliance on a digital-only, automated approach to ensure that those measures are reasonable, comply with due process and do not create barriers to the uptake and maintenance of benefits;
    (d) To ensure that disability-related benefits, including the Personal Independence Payment and the Employment and Support Allowance, adequately cover additional disability-related costs, in line with the human rights model of disability, taking into account the recommendations of the Committee on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities'

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Online Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering
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    Jessica Elgot is a deputy political editor at the Guardian upto 108 signed

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  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 3,775 Championing

    Thank you for sharing this. I'm glad to see my MP is on it, Andrew Cooper. When i sent letters after the green paper in March, he was the only one I heard back from out of 20 letters sent. Quite a nice letter but couldn't tell if he was on the fence or not.

  • Topcat71
    Topcat71 Online Community Member Posts: 194 Empowering

    A few people plan to ruin millions of people lives so that they have more money to waste. Honestly they think they are so good at their jobs and they win the next election. Absolutely no chance the way they treating us over these disability change. No consideration given to the impact on the stress of all this 4.29 am and again I awake worry about how I will get by if I lose everything. Where the information on who they consult before announcing these proposals. I look at them and think none of you will be in power in 4 years time. Absolutely useless and you can see how much they are out of their depth. Changes to the winter payment says it all. They are incompetent amateurs who only got into power because of the mistakes of covid. Sorry to rant I have had enough

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 3,775 Championing

    Gosh, just looked him up on Google. Yes, definitely looks different to 'my' AC; sad story with his accident.

    Reminds me of when I watched an old re-run of Parkinson interviewing Paul Daniels a few months ago. I was so shocked what PD looked like when younger, totally different, even his build which was slight as he was older. Took c 5 mins until I realised it was Englebert Humperdinck he was interviewing and PD was out of camera shot. Duh !! I know I've got eye problems but really!! ๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿ˜ฌ๐Ÿคฃ

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 3,775 Championing
    edited June 2025

    @Topcat71 . You rant away, I hear you and relate ๐Ÿซ ๐Ÿ˜Š. I think my insomnia is steroids-related/jittery/coughing. I don't think my mind has had a minutes proper peace since March. Well, 2 years actually. I try every day to change that but it's hard. You take care, we need to be here and for long after they're out on their ears.

  • apples
    apples Online Community Member Posts: 556 Empowering

    When will we know if these cuts are to be dropped

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Online Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering

    next Tuesday or before if starmer pulls it before Tuesday

  • bton1968
    bton1968 Online Community Member Posts: 156 Empowering

    with the latest U turn edging a step closer Starmer will be gone by the next labour conference โ€ฆ.

    good writhens and take your cabinet with you !

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Online Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering

    Cabinet is now arriving at Downing Street wonder if we hear anything today ๐Ÿ‘€

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