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  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 415 Pioneering

    I know a number of MP's here in N.Ireland have signed.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I have fibromyalgia and ME , do you think they do bogof 😂

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    What does it mean about the confidence vote in Starmer ? He could be brought down by it ?🤞

  • waylander9602
    waylander9602 Community Member Posts: 73 Empowering

    Is it looking gd? Don't want to get my hopes up!

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I read a while ago Tory’s were voting against

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Hi chiarieds,

    I just read somewhere that the scc will not apply to conditions which can go into remission such as fibromyalgia and ME . Not that I’ve ever been lucky enough to go into remission but I guess that wouldn’t count as we can’t prove that . Seems they’ve thought of everything to stop people claiming scc .

  • Topcat71
    Topcat71 Community Member Posts: 194 Empowering

    We are the good and together we are the most powerful. Never again attack those you see are down because there only one way to go is to raise Up.

    Sadiq Khan has become the most senior Labour figure yet to urge the government to drop its controversial disability benefit changes, supporting a growing Labour rebellion that threatens to derail the plans.

  • geckobat
    geckobat Community Member Posts: 205 Empowering
  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 415 Pioneering

    Benefits & Work News - 24 June 2025

    News

    Ten major charities jointly condemn cuts Bill

     Published: 24 June 2025

    Ten major charities have issued a joint briefing condemning the Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill as Labour continues to insist it will go ahead with Tuesdays vote, in spite of a large scale rebellion.

    The charities behind the report are:  Scope, Trussel, Mind, Citizens Advice, Sense, Joseph Rowntree Foundation, New Economics Foundation, Child Poverty Action Group, Z2K, Turn2Us.

    Amongst the finding is the briefing are:

    As a % of GDP, the UK government is spending the same amount on working-age benefits as it was in 2015. This stands at around 5% and is not projected to change by 2030. This is because we have seen deep cuts to benefits like Universal Credit alongside the increase in people claiming health and disability benefits.

    We spend a similar amount on these benefits as comparable countries in the OECD. Even considering the more recent increase in claims, our overall spend on disability benefits as a % of GDP is similar to or lower than that of countries including France, Australia and New Zealand.

    The provisions in this bill would reduce support for over 3.2 million disabled people. They will push between 300,000 and 400,000 people into poverty. They will also drive 440,000 people in disabled households into severe hardship – a measure of deep poverty which captures people likely to need to use a food bank.

    Added investment in employment support will, at most, result in between 1-3% of the 3.2m people seeing their support cut move into work.

     83% of the public has heard of the planned cuts, with 58% saying they are a bad idea and just 32% saying they are a good idea.

    You can download a copy of the joint briefing from this link.  Definitely worth sending details to your MP, regardless of whether they signed the amendment.  Sadly, unless Labour cancel the vote on the bill scheduled for Tuesday, then there is no reason for campaigners to ease off.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    To get pip it’s not about the condition itself but how it affects you so how can they say it’s only for conditions that are constant with no remission as other conditions affect us too

  • Topcat71
    Topcat71 Community Member Posts: 194 Empowering

    BBC News. Starmer just said

    “There is a clear moral case, which is: the current system doesn’t help those who want to get into work,” Starmer said. “It traps people.

    What he is he going on about ?. I receive pip and I am working 12 hours a week claim lcwra as well. If I can't get pip because I can wash my hair, ignoring the fact I have morphine for pain for my back and knees. How is making PiP more difficult to obtain stop me from going to work. Pip help me stay in work with lcwra. I could not work anymore than 12 hours a week so take away pip and lcwra I just well be unemployed and have all my rent paid and live that way.

    The man never has a plan from day one that makes any sense. Let's hope one day his family never need benefits support again . Because he try to ruin thousands of people lives. His proposal of change if passed will live on for years after he gone as prime minister.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Community Member Posts: 4,352 Championing
  • Zipz
    Zipz Community Member Posts: 4,352 Championing
    edited June 2025

    @secretsquirrel1

    Against what? The ammendment, the Bill, or both?

  • Topcat71
    Topcat71 Community Member Posts: 194 Empowering

    Sorry to rant but can someone please inform the Prime Minister pip is not work related it does not stop you going to work because you receive it .

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 415 Pioneering

    Having said that my own MP hasn't. Another email is on it's way. 👍️

  • Zipz
    Zipz Community Member Posts: 4,352 Championing

    Neither has my MP. Never replied to my communications regarding "reforms". A new PPS!

  • geckobat
    geckobat Community Member Posts: 205 Empowering

    Apparently the whips are claiming some who have signed are removing their names. If that happens then those MPs would be losing massive trust and support.

    Who knows though, maybe they're only saying that to pretend they have control of the situation to scare others.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Community Member Posts: 4,352 Championing
    edited June 2025

    @Topcat71 The PM knows. They all know. It's just not to their advantage for Joe Public to know.

  • onlymeagain
    onlymeagain Community Member Posts: 265 Empowering

    My MP is on the list which I am very happy to see. Her reply to me indicated she was all for the bill and talked about how it will help people get jobs and how we have high unemployment in our area. I did reply to her but not heard anything, but seems she has taken some points on board by myself and no doubt others.

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