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  • bton1968
    bton1968 Community Member Posts: 156 Empowering
    edited June 2025

    That statement from kemi wants labour to take the brutal decisions so the conservatives benefit ....

    People have good memories and they'll be consigned to history with labour

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I hope so 🤞 that’s looking like our only chance

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing
  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Community Member Posts: 269 Empowering

    NEW: Kemi Badenoch says the Tories will lend support to the welfare bill if PM commits to three conditions: bringing down welfare budget, getting people back to work, and promising no new tax rises. The last of those is impossible for the government to deliver.

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Community Member Posts: 269 Empowering

    He’s boxed in what’s his move ?

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    Have you read that kemi is offering to help Starmer ?

  • waylander9602
    waylander9602 Community Member Posts: 77 Empowering
  • bton1968
    bton1968 Community Member Posts: 156 Empowering
  • Topcat71
    Topcat71 Community Member Posts: 194 Empowering

    To save his own job the prime Minister will not side with badenoch. I would like a detailed debate about the proposal that involves everyone. This is what is stressing me out it just feels so so rushed. Why?

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I just emailed her saying that . How disgusting playing politics with people’s lives

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Community Member Posts: 1,513 Championing

    Even though the Tories aren't in power anymore they're still managing to torture us again. :(

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    the last two are impossible as there aren’t the jobs anyway

  • waylander9602
    waylander9602 Community Member Posts: 77 Empowering
  • waylander9602
    waylander9602 Community Member Posts: 77 Empowering

    He will be brutal in the autumn budget to keep tories happy

  • Jamk85
    Jamk85 Community Member Posts: 56 Empowering

    But this comes at a cost

    ''The prospect of the bill passing on Conservative votes would outrage Labour MPs.''

    Would not end well with starmer.

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering
  • Topcat71
    Topcat71 Community Member Posts: 194 Empowering

    "She was born British, as Olukemi Olufunto Adegoke, in a Wimbledon hospital in January 1980, before her parents took her home to Nigeria. Badenoch was among the last to benefit from the birthright citizenship rules which her heroine, Margaret Thatcher, would soon abolish in the 1981 British Nationality Act. She has compared her British passport to the golden ticket that let Charlie Bucket into Willy Wonka’s chocolate factory."

    I never known much about her but she says some terrible things about disability and mental health in the past. One day if she ever experience pain and difficulties in daily living perhaps although she never need benefits herself she will understand how wrong she been.

  • Amaya_Ringo
    Amaya_Ringo Community Member Posts: 408 Championing

    I actually think Badenoch's statement is pretty much what you can expect from a Tory statement. It's a way to keep with the principles they apparently believe in (which is why I've kept saying that the Tories would not be a better option), but also giving them an out to vote against the bill if it suits them without losing their core support. If they now vote against the bill, Badenoch can say that it was because Starmer refused to meet their criteria and they are not for negotiation on these points. In short, it saves face.

    It's a brutal statement because it puts Starmer in an impossible position. He already has this much rebellion with the cuts at the level they already are. If he were to curry Tory favour to pass this bill by committing to harsher cuts, it would be outright war and I think the Tories know it. It could 100% lead to a vote of no confidence, which is probably their real aim.

    Until we know where we stand with the amendment/the bill, we don't know what will happen. There is undoubtedly going to be some kind of benefit reform, whether this bill or a revised one down the line. This vote is all about making it clear where the red lines are for those making the decisions.

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 410 Pioneering

    Having said that if Starmer takes the Conservatives help how will the Labour Party backbenchers react?? Kemi is boxing him in so to speak. Whatever Starmer decides it's not going to be good for him.

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