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  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Online Community Member Posts: 254 Empowering

    More good news

    Welfare rebellion latest 👇🏼

    Three more Labour MPs have signed rebel amendment, taking total to 126, but none have withdrawn their names, despite government efforts.

    Also, I’m told the Greens, Plaid and SNP have joined signatories, which already include DUP, making it more likely Speaker will select amendment.

    (As ever, no of current signatories only confirmed after Commons adjourns).

  • Topcat71
    Topcat71 Online Community Member Posts: 162 Empowering

    I received pip then got lcwra . I cutting back on eating so if this happens I can try get through the months when I appeal as I understand you don't get money when appealing

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,829 Championing
  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Online Community Member Posts: 206 Empowering
    edited June 25

    From what I remember I think maybe you can still get UC, possibly the same amount as job seekers allowance and as long as you've got a Dr's sick note shouldn't have to look for work, but you'll still have to see a work coach every so often, who may sanction or even stop your money all together if you're unable to do some of the things they expect you to do (probably more so if you have a mental illness like depression or anxiety rather than a visible physical disability), I guess it just depends on the work coach you get.

    Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

    If I end up in this situation and I have enough savings to live off to get me through the MR and tribunal, then if my work coach is difficult that's it I'll be walking out, stop my money as much as you want.

    If I don't have enough savings I'll just have to keep seeing them, unless I end up so unable to cope with it mentally that I cannot even make myself go anymore. If I get sanctioned on the much less money that I'm on or my money stopped altogether then that's it I'm finished, I'll either starve to death unless I commit suicide first because of not being able to cope.

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Online Community Member Posts: 254 Empowering

    isn’t it 126 labour mps and the rest were n Irish

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 577 Championing

    Before throwing panic into people by claiming that the PIP form has changed and descriptors are now aiming "at the most severely disabled people", why don't you first try to compare the form you've received with the ones that are out there on the internet, both for new claimants and existing claimants on review?

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,829 Championing
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,829 Championing

    I’ve heard of two different forms, the short form and the 89 page form which I’ve seen people say it’s more about what you can do rather than can’t do . Others have said it has separate questions for prompting etc if I remember correctly. Apparently my forms on it way so I’ll post on here what’s it’s like if anyone is interested

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Online Community Member Posts: 254 Empowering

    as long as it’s high numbers we don’t care 👍

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,829 Championing
  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,290 Championing

    PANIC IS SETTING IN. CONSTITUENTS FROM OUR TOWN WHO CONTACTED OUR MP HAVE NOW BEEN EMAILED. THEY HAVE BEEN INVITED TO MEET WITH OUR MP BOTH BEFORE THE VOTE AND AGAIN AFTER THE VOTE.

    In the last hour, our local Labour MP, who serves as a Parliamentary Private Secretary (PPS) and typically votes in line with the government, sent out an urgent email inviting us to community meetings about the proposed changes to PIP and Universal Credit.

    There will be two meetings before the vote and one after the vote. I’ve registered for Saturday’s in-person session and also signed up for the post-vote meeting also, as I am sure there will be plenty to discuss.

    See MP's email below

    You are receiving this email because you have recently written to me to share your concerns with the Government's proposed changes to PIP and Universal Credit. Over the past several weeks, I have met with community leaders, activists, and individuals in receipt of PIP and UC. Their testimonies and expertise have been invaluable as I've navigated the complexities of this situation. It's important to me that I get this decision right and that everyone has the opportunity to express their views to me on this issue. That’s why I’m inviting you to one of three upcoming community meetings—two in person and one online:

    • Saturday 28 June – 10-11:30am, In person
    • Monday 30 June – 5:30-6:30pm, Online
    • Saturday 5 July – 11-12:30pm,      In person

    The first two meetings are ahead of the second reading vote on 1 July, and the third follows that vote, giving us a chance to reflect and discuss next steps. To ensure the discussion is as informative as possible, I’m delighted that local leaders from the Council,  Citizens Advice Bureau will also be attending. Their experience and guidance will be an invaluable resource as we talk through the concerns, challenges, and practicalities of the proposed changes.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 577 Championing

    in Feb. 2017, Lib Dems tabled a motion in the House of Lords to kill a Government bill that "was severely restricting disability benefits and could potentially deprive 160,000 people of state help".

    Why are they silent this time around, even though these cuts are more impactful and devastating?

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 2,255 Trailblazing

    @Ross1975 Ask for copies of all relevant medical records. There may be saved fee.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 577 Championing

    I wonder what is the point of listening to him/her parroting the very same government line which Keir Starmer and his clowns have all been parroting!

    To me, this is nothing but lip service.

    You're even willing to go back and listen to them after the vote!!!

    Parliamentary Private Secretaries are all dancing to the tune of K. Starmer for their jobs and do not seem to be willing to forsake their jobs for the sick and disabled people.

  • Topcat71
    Topcat71 Online Community Member Posts: 162 Empowering

    Is it likely like someone said many months ago here..It be watered down then a vote.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 577 Championing

    How would you wtaer them down, had you been asked to do so?

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,829 Championing
  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 308 Empowering

    The Daily Telegraph - 26 June 2025

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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,829 Championing
    edited June 25

    The only part I was able to read said money to get people into work being brought forward after they’ve been caught out lying about the billion pound fund . Again about work , didn’t see anything about us who physically cannot work.

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Online Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering