Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.
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Me too. But what about those who are born with disabilities or who become disabled before entering the workforce?
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Disappointing, but how things work in reality. We will be in a bad way, if we have to depend on politicians doing the right thing.
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Don't forget the DLA claimants born born before a certain date in 1948. They were not/ will not be invited to claim PIP instead. The youngest are only 77 and could easily live another decade… or two.
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They will probably have to claim Attendance Allowance like OAP's who become disabled later in life and will not get anything to help with mobility.
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Yes sadly the group fight isnt there, although "I might" be ok now with the concessions, I will still stand for those affected, as Albus has said. Remember also if we let this go, it means they will come back anyway again in the future.
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Neither of our children get any Universal Credit, they are on ESA income related, support group. We are waiting for the migration letter. But my concern is will the get the same transitional protection in say 2 months time if this paper goes through on Tuesday or would they get a lesser amount.
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it’s so so scary to say the least 😔 I feel for you having two wee bairns, so much uncertainty and so little information.
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Every claimant should be assessed under the same criteria. No matter what the new criteria is. It puts everyone on a level playing field.
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I think so yes, the bill wont be immediately in effect after the vote.
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There has been zero to suggest that. The DLA of these ageing claimants has been preserved since 2013. Similarly, PIP claimants over retirement age are not being transferred to AA.
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That i can't say. They are possibly sacrificial lambs. Very unfair, and if we let them, these politicians may attempt to redraw the social contract.
I tell you what, if I thought it made any difference, I would lie down in the street in protest. I however don't live anywhere of import to even be noticed.
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@Catherine21 I'm also worried re the iresa to uc migration situation, will we be classed as "New claiments " even though we are migrating.I really expect my letter very soon but who knows. Hopefully we will not be treated differently. The entire thing stinks. I hate the idea of what the future may hold for us and others.
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True indeed.
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It doesn't matter how much employment support they put in place I am still unable to work and no employer would employ me. I have worked my whole life up to 3 years ago when I became too ill to work and have deteriorated further since then. I am highly qualified so don't know what they would even do in my case! It's all a shambles and I'm still scared.
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that's what neoliberalism does to people. remember Margaret Thatcher's quote that there's no such thing as a community?
and that's exactly why the insurance industry supports these cuts.
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They know this, we know this, but they also know of the mass apathy out there in society.
Employers are queuing up to employ ill and disabled people! It's so cynical and so silly.
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Anyway, to respond to Scope's statement, these "concessions" are mere smoke and mirrors designed to create a two-tier disability community. Pausing the bill is not enough. Anything that isn't "drop the cuts" isn't enough.
This is why more and more disabled people are supporting activist groups like DPAC and Mad Youth Organisers.
Scope, like all disability charities, should be lobbying MPs to vote for the bill wrecking amendment next week, alongside lobbying the Speaker so that he selects the amendment, and not help Kid Starver send more disabled people to their deaths via these cuts.
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Not a good look for HMG.
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If it makes you feel better I expect migrations to be the same as existing UC in terms of the protection. Plus I think the starting date for change is after when the migrations are expected to finish. It doesnt start the day the bill is passed.
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They as good as admitted they rushed this through as they needed the money asap to balance the books . But if they reckon they aren’t saving anything from existing claimants now why the rush ? Surely if it’s fire claimants who are their next victim’s they have plenty of time for a proper consultation and MPs to go through the concessions. Plus if the consultation ends on the 30th June and it’s already being debated how have they gone through the data to see how we feel ?
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